Vesper 30,175 Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 5 minutes ago, Thor said: There were like 3 supporters of Duran. All of us are on this last page. Thor and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Mhsc said: Either Duran or Samu would have been good additions to the squad to compete with NJ but this thread was filled with endless pages of people raging about either Samu was an unknown quantity that we were linked with for stupid money (ended up joining Porto for peanuts). Duran, on the other hand, showed signs late last season that he could be an interesting get. However, he still isn't a cert starter for Villa, which raises its own questions. I believe we were even linked to him during his time in the MLS, so our interest has been there for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,702 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 2 hours ago, Vesper said: We just became best friends. You know Vesper is a chick with the way she keeps tabs/notes. bluesman2610 and Vesper 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,702 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 2 hours ago, LAM09 said: Samu was an unknown quantity that we were linked with for stupid money (ended up joining Porto for peanuts). Duran, on the other hand, showed signs late last season that he could be an interesting get. However, he still isn't a cert starter for Villa, which raises its own questions. I believe we were even linked to him during his time in the MLS, so our interest has been there for some time. I don’t think people realise the managerial issue of continuity and sometimes even if a player might be better you can’t just pop him into a team that’s performing well. By every metric Villa have been crushing it lately by getting into CL and now having a pretty decent follow up season all things considered. Take into account Watkins having a historically great striker season for their club. Like all time level great, even if he dips in form, you let a player like that work out of it given your recent successes. I don’t think Duran not starting is any reflection of him, but more so of keeping the team success at Villa going. Vesper and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 Can you imagine this current team with the Thiago Silva of a couple of years ago next to Colwill? The title challenge would be real. For me, that’s still something we need to at least consider in January. An experienced, high quality, on-pitch general type CB. Someone with a personality like Thiago Silva, VVD etc who you see barking orders and organizing the entire team from the back. We get that and I think it masks the potential for many of those sketchy Sanchez blunders. Who’s out there that fits the bill and would they be possible in January, I have no clue. Reddish-Blue and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 1 hour ago, Pizy said: VVD Convince him to come here! Lololol Probably zero chance of that. 😞 I be over the moon if he did come here. Thiago 2.0 Even more of a barker 🐕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pizy said: Can you imagine this current team with the Thiago Silva of a couple of years ago next to Colwill? The title challenge would be real. For me, that’s still something we need to at least consider in January. An experienced, high quality, on-pitch general type CB. Someone with a personality like Thiago Silva, VVD etc who you see barking orders and organizing the entire team from the back. We get that and I think it masks the potential for many of those sketchy Sanchez blunders. Who’s out there that fits the bill and would they be possible in January, I have no clue. I think someone like Milan Skriniar from PSG would be an attainable target in January. Hasn’t quite worked at Paris but a top player, experienced… definitely fits the bill. But hes 29, on a really good wage… probably too old and too much money for Clearlake’s policies. Edited December 16, 2024 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 On 14/12/2024 at 05:46, mkh said: ‼️West Ham hold an interest in Chelsea’s Axel Disasi, with a loan deal potentially on the cards. via@tbrfootball Don't give me hope like this. Reddish-Blue, Norfolkblue1961, OneMoSalah and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 9 hours ago, Pizy said: Can you imagine this current team with the Thiago Silva of a couple of years ago next to Colwill? The title challenge would be real. For me, that’s still something we need to at least consider in January. An experienced, high quality, on-pitch general type CB. Someone with a personality like Thiago Silva, VVD etc who you see barking orders and organizing the entire team from the back. We get that and I think it masks the potential for many of those sketchy Sanchez blunders. Who’s out there that fits the bill and would they be possible in January, I have no clue. Just try to get murillo and maybe Hincapié and we are good to go in the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 (edited) On 12/12/2024 at 22:19, OneMoSalah said: I doubt we will be able to make 7-10 first 11 changes every game like with the conference for example because the likelihood is the level will be tougher and there will be matches we will play against bigger teams With fingers crossed for Champions League qualification, our squad builders' aim should be to improve the 'B team' in such a way that it is strong enough to allow the 'A team' to be rested against a different profile of opponents. Meaning; in selected domestic cup games, CL league stage fixtures against 4th seeded sides, and even certain Premier League matches if and when the fixtures line up in a helpful way. We already have arrivals set up who, if they live up to billing, will allow some current A teamers to be available for B team matches. That should, in theory, improve the B team. We also should expect further recruitment, either of projected A teamers, or even of players being brought in to directly bolster the B team. Edited December 16, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMissEden 21 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 Yes Davies is going to Madrid. Been known for 2 maybe 3 years now. I know a friend of his (no not joking). It’s the main thing they talk about, year after year. That he expects Madrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 10 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: I think someone like Milan Skriniar from PSG would be an attainable target in January. Hasn’t quite worked at Paris but a top player, experienced… definitely fits the bill. But hes 29, on a really good wage… probably too old and too much money for Clearlake’s policies. I’ve always liked him but he looks SO slow when it comes to lateral movement. I feel like the pace and aggression of the PL would cause him issues. If we went for him I wouldn’t complain but I’m skeptical. 2 hours ago, Fernando said: Just try to get murillo and maybe Hincapié and we are good to go in the defense. With Forest flying WAY above anything they could’ve dreamed of this season there’s no chance they’d sell Murillo midseason. And in the summer he’ll probably have an £85m price tag in his head. Think we missed our chance with him when we decided not to push for him last summer. IMissEden and Fernando 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,698 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 55 minutes ago, Pizy said: I’ve always liked him but he looks SO slow when it comes to lateral movement. I feel like the pace and aggression of the PL would cause him issues. If we went for him I wouldn’t complain but I’m skeptical. Exactly. He is not fitting our team at all. He was great at Inter in Inzaghi's 3-CB system, but we need players like Fofana and Levi, who have quick feet and are good at passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 Yeah you just have to look at De Ligt at United. Moves slower than Maguire. Skriniar would be a fridge in our high line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 3 hours ago, Fernando said: Just try to get murillo and maybe Hincapié and we are good to go in the defense. I'd go Tah and Araujo. Former I know will be very difficult given Barca and Flick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 1 hour ago, Pizy said: With Forest flying WAY above anything they could’ve dreamed of this season there’s no chance they’d sell Murillo midseason. And in the summer he’ll probably have an £85m price tag in his head. Think we missed our chance with him when we decided not to push for him last summer. Yeah that sucks, but for the age and how the club is building 85 million is worth it. He is young and is already in the PL, so no PL acclimatization....although Caicedo took one season to get up to speed with us from his Brighton team. I would spend the 85 for him, he is worth it for me. Especially if we can sell Chillwell, Dissasi, Tosin and Badishille. That should cover some of the money we would spend on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 13 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: I'd go Tah and Araujo. Former I know will be very difficult given Barca and Flick. Tah is okay because of his contract expiring at the end of the season. So if Leverkusen want to sell this January before letting him go for free in the summer then we can get a deal. But I would still prefer to get Hincapie then Tah. He is 22, can play in many positions like left back, left midfield, and main position as center back. These types of players are money because they work good in the system that Enzo deploys. I would say 60 million would get you Hincapie. And Murillo yes going to be more expensive, but I will spend it. Just like we spend on Fofana at the beginning and that was dumb, Murillo is the best buy for the team we are building of younger players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 48 minutes ago, Fernando said: Yeah that sucks, but for the age and how the club is building 85 million is worth it. He is young and is already in the PL, so no PL acclimatization....although Caicedo took one season to get up to speed with us from his Brighton team. I would spend the 85 for him, he is worth it for me. Especially if we can sell Chillwell, Dissasi, Tosin and Badishille. That should cover some of the money we would spend on him. Murillo is also a left footed, left sided CB isn’t he? Might not really make sense to target that profile anymore since Levi has that spot locked down. Playing a left footer on the right side may be awkward. Maybe not, idk. I’d rather have someone 100% comfortable and who has always played on the right naturally. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 6 hours ago, Fernando said: Just try to get murillo and maybe Hincapié and we are good to go in the defense. they are both left footed that would leave us with 4 left footed CBs, 3 IF Badi is sold Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 17 hours ago, Thor said: I don’t think people realise the managerial issue of continuity and sometimes even if a player might be better you can’t just pop him into a team that’s performing well. By every metric Villa have been crushing it lately by getting into CL and now having a pretty decent follow up season all things considered. Take into account Watkins having a historically great striker season for their club. Like all time level great, even if he dips in form, you let a player like that work out of it given your recent successes. I don’t think Duran not starting is any reflection of him, but more so of keeping the team success at Villa going. I agree to some extent, but the fact that Emery has started to play Duran from the start indicates that things haven't been working so well, and like with many teams, if the CF isn't scoring, he'll most likely be the first to be dropped, if there is a good alternative. Outside of the CL, their performance has been inconsistent (November was particularly dismal). It will be fascinating to watch where Emery goes on that front in the coming months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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