Pizy 19,249 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 5 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Looks like another Clownlake possible masterclass. wtf does one have to do with the other? Neres and Lukaku don’t play the same position and aren’t similar even a little bit. Vesper, mkh and xPetrCechx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,125 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, King Kante said: Not really, where I stand on her role is that if you're in that position you either have to take ultimate responsibility for the sign-off (as supposedly you're the one who has oversight of all aspects and you should have enough industry knowledge to know whatever is being signed off is correct or not) or you're there for other purposes (to act as a patsy, for good PR etc.) For me, you cannot be a Head/Director of something and then blame it on your underlings when things go pear shaped. As the day-to-day of any such role is to ensure that you're underlings do what is required and you have enough knowledge of whatever sector/industry etc, that you can tell if something is off/not right. If you can't do that, then you're there for other purposes. If you run a large company some of your internal staff will be responsible for facilities maintenance. They will quite often be supplemented by external staff too. All of these people will have task specific expertise and their work will frequently require large capital expenditure. Such expenditure will have to be signed off by a senior executive. That executive will rely on the expertise of their technical staff as to whether the work being carried out is necessary and performed to the required standards and codes. That senior executive won't be required to make the technical decisions, but instead be tasked with ensuring suitably qualified people are in place. Sorry for spelling all of this out. I'm well aware that you know all of this. The reason for labouring this point is that Marina was in an even more removed situation than this. She was effectively an Avatar for Roman at the club. If she advised that a particular transfer could not be afforded, but Roman insisted that it must go through, it would go through. Marina's performance would be judged not only on her independent judgments, but also on her ability to be a fixer for the boss. Until, and unless, someone shows me irrefutable evidence that Marina was picking the players to be signed I will not believe it. I'm firmly fixed in this position because, if I had Roman's money, picking the players would be the fun part. I certainly would not delegate that away while forking out large chunks of my fortune for someone else to enjoy. Very early in Roman's ownership of the club Bruce Buck revealed that the oligarch used Football Manager to assess players. The CEO we brought in from Man United, whose name escapes me for a minute, confirmed that the manager did not make all of the transfer decisions. To me it is blindingly obvious that Roman was making them. He is, in my opinion, certainly the person who signed Lukaku the second time. I even believe that it was his son who signed Marco Marin; a player with eye catching attributes but zero effective contribution to team play. Let's blame Marina for things which were her fault but the players signed are not among them. Edited August 15, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mário César 1,475 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: felix? yeah well lets see if more sources tell the same Edited August 15, 2024 by Mário César Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 10 minutes ago, Mário César said: felix? I think it will be both Felix and Conor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 whats happening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 748 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 JUST IN: Atletico Madrid want Gallagher but on NEW terms, Chelsea want to discuss Joao, but gap on price tag.. it is a very tricky situation, but working on it. @FabrizioRomano Fuck you Atletico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,249 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Jesus. How can it take a fucking week to agree on a player we obviously want to sell badly and a player they want rid of badly? It’s just like Lukaku/Osimhen/Napoli. We know Lukaku badly wants Napoli, Napoli badly wants Lukaku, and Napoli have already said multiple times that they’ve agreed Osimhen can go. So wtf is going on? Are we making insulting offers that will never be accepted or are the other clubs making insulting demands? Whatever it is, it’s fucking annoying. bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 2 weeks to ending this transfer saga thank god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheHulk 2,636 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Let him rot at Napoli if he doesn't want to reduce his salary, who the fuck does this guy think he is with his demands. bigbluewillie and mkh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 19,249 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 1 minute ago, TheHulk said: Let him rot at Napoli if he doesn't want to reduce his salary, who the fuck does this guy think he is with his demands. In his mind (and most peoples minds before this past season where he dropped a level) he’s a superstar who deserves superstar wages. And tbf, “elite” goal scorers are rare and command huge wages. So I don’t really blame him for refusing to drop his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,636 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Pizy said: In his mind (and most peoples minds before this past season where he dropped a level) he’s a superstar who deserves superstar wages. And tbf, “elite” goal scorers are rare and command huge wages. So I don’t really blame him for refusing to drop his salary. He scored more than 15 goals in Seria A once in 4 seasons, a league where grandpas like Giroud still scoring for fun. Guy needs his head checked if he believes he is elite. Besides the fact these numbers are bang average, he isn't even a fit beast. Edited August 15, 2024 by TheHulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 7 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Let him rot at Napoli if he doesn't want to reduce his salary, who the fuck does this guy think he is with his demands. €11m per year is only (converting to pounds) around £181K PW I wonder if that €11m is NET if so, that is around (as we all put salaries in gross terms) £350K PW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,249 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 8 minutes ago, Vesper said: €11m per year is only (converting to pounds) around £181K PW I wonder if that €11m is NET if so, that is around (as we all put salaries in gross terms) £350K PW I’m guessing it’s the latter which is why this shit is taking forever as we try to get him to accept an incentive based salary. Really weird how these Italian clubs (even the biggest ones) are all broke as a joke yet have these star players on mega wages. Like when Juve were paying CR7. Costa19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 3 hours ago, Vesper said: She was a financial director at Roman's Millhouse Capital (AUM there included Sibneft (now Gazprom Neft), Russian Aluminium (aka Rusal, now the world's largest aluminium producer), Aeroflot, RusPromAvto, the Prodo agricultural group, as well as investments in electricity, pulp and paper processing, insurance and banking.[ Always thought she took roles in other Abraomovitch's ventures afer/same time as Chelsea… Transparency is not most important factor in such dealings 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Always thought she took roles in other Abraomovitch's ventures afer/same time as Chelsea… Transparency is not most important factor in such dealings 😄 She is with him in Turkey. You will never hear him or her speak about exactly what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,249 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Ugo on loan to Southampton is a potentially great move for him. If they actually use him every match that could be massive for any future he has back here. If he does well but we don’t end up needing him we can probably get the Saints to buy him for £40m or something. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,373 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, Pizy said: Ugo on loan to Southampton is a potentially great move for him. If they actually use him every match that could be massive for any future he has back here. If he does well but we don’t end up needing him we can probably get the Saints to buy him for £40m or something. Hope we vetted their plans for him better than we did for Santos at Forrest Strike and Vesper 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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