Chelsea Transfers

[DH1988 1,348]

1 hour ago, King Kante said:

Yeah, VO seems like a slow moving car crash to me. I think he will come in and look ok, with people thinking he will develop/just needs to settle, but just get worse over time. 

Under absolutely no circumstances should this guy be on more than £120k a week under our current structure if that is what the guide for Fernandez and Caicedo is. 

He is probably fully fully aware of that as well hence no budging on his wages demands or moving to our newer model of performance based contracts (VO).

[OhForAGreavsie 6,071]

52 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

There is no bigger myth than Marina & that whole group being good, pretty awful actually and the criminality she oversaw is about to get us seriously punished too.

She oversaw us moving away from having perhaps the best squad in Europe to having a pretty mediocre one which could have some brief runs at trophies but never sustain us as a side challenging for PL every year in a serious way.

Sold two of the greatest footballers in modern times in Salah and De Bruyne.

Spent tonnes of money on utter wank too, but pre a lot of transfer inflation - she'd absolutely be doing the same stuff if she was still here.

Also handed out insane salaries to a bunch of terrible footballers that hindered us for years.

Total fraud and people remember her and the group that were running Chelsea in that period in a way that is very detached from reality.

Somebody show me evidence that Marina was making purchasing decisions. Then please show me evidence that she was deciding which players to sell. I have never seen any but it's never too late to learn if anyone knows of any. Responsibility for conducting the business side of the deals, yes. Culpability for illegal  transfer activity, undoubtedly. Responsibility for actions which took place before she joined the board, no chance.

Edited August 15, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie

[Strike 7,486]

16 minutes ago, DDA said:

Some of you are never happy lol. Acting like theres a Prime Aguero up for grabs somewhere else. Osimhen is the best thing available. Go get him.

Wages on par with Enzo/Caicedo and let's do it

[Pizy 18,891]

14 minutes ago, DDA said:

Some of you are never happy lol. Acting like theres a Prime Aguero up for grabs somewhere else. Osimhen is the best thing available. Go get him.

As an Osimhen skeptic I’m kind of coming around on him for one simple reason: I think he’d be a big help in those countless matches we’ve been in in recent seasons where we completely dominate lesser opponents but because they’re sitting deep and parking the bus we couldn’t break through. Those very kinds of matches cost us top 4 last season in hindsight.

With Osimhen being a beast in the air and a top penalty area finisher he could 100% help in those sorts of matches. I think he could feast against weaker opponents.

Whether he performs against the top half teams and other Big 6 teams is what I’m skeptical about.

[TheHulk 2,432]

Looks like Noni will stay for the next 3 years until they realize the truth like with Broja.

Edited August 15, 2024 by TheHulk

[King Kante 1,643]

12 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Somebody show me evidence that Marina was making purchasing decisions. Then please show me evidence that she was deciding which players to sell. I have never seen any but it's never too late to learn if anyone knows of any. Responsibility for conducting the business side of the deals, yes. Culpability for illegal  transfer activity, undoubtedly. Responsibility for actions which took place before she joined the board, no chance.

I think the problem is that Granny got made out to be some sort of Power Woman/Business Leader. So, if you brought into that then she must've been the person to sign-off on deals. 

Otherwise she was a patsy like you're making out. 

The problem with looking back her role is that she either had to be the one signing off or she was simply a puppet for whoever else was. 

Edited August 15, 2024 by King Kante

[TheHulk 2,432]

1 hour ago, Mhsc said:

There is no bigger myth than Marina & that whole group being good, pretty awful actually and the criminality she oversaw is about to get us seriously punished too.

She oversaw us moving away from having perhaps the best squad in Europe to having a pretty mediocre one which could have some brief runs at trophies but never sustain us as a side challenging for PL every year in a serious way.

Sold two of the greatest footballers in modern times in Salah and De Bruyne.

Spent tonnes of money on utter wank too, but pre a lot of transfer inflation - she'd absolutely be doing the same stuff if she was still here.

Also handed out insane salaries to a bunch of terrible footballers that hindered us for years.

Total fraud and people remember her and the group that were running Chelsea in that period in a way that is very detached from reality.

Marina wasn't the one taking the shots she was just selling/buying them. We lost Salah and Bruyne because of Mourinho and only him.

[MoroccanBlue 5,380]

7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Whether he performs against the top half teams and other Big 6 teams is what I’m skeptical about.

What the team is lacking at this very moment is a strong CF presence that's dangerous inside the box. I think Osimhen would've saved a lot of dropped points last season. As far as big matches go, I think he's shown enough to be an absolute nuisance for defenders even when he isn't scoring. 

 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,071]

6 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I think the problem is that Granny got made out to be some sort of Power Woman/Business Leader. So, if you brought into that then she must've been the person to sign-off on deals. 

Otherwise she was a patsy like you're making out. 

The problem with looking back her role is that she either had to be the one signing off or she was simply a puppet for whoever else was. 

Of course Marina was the one signing off on deals. Football staff can't sign the cheques. That would be ridiculous. If you think I said that she didn't then you misread my comment, or are failing to pay enough attention to the varying responsibilities of of different roles in a large company. 

[Pizy 18,891]

12 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

What the team is lacking at this very moment is a strong CF presence that's dangerous inside the box. I think Osimhen would've saved a lot of dropped points last season. As far as big matches go, I think he's shown enough to be an absolute nuisance for defenders even when he isn't scoring. 

 

Worth a shot if they’re willing to accept a reasonable Lukaku + cash offer. As long as we aren’t paying anywhere close to the £100m they were asking for earlier then it’s probably a gamble worth taking.

[Strike 7,486]

56 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Worth a shot if they’re willing to accept a reasonable Lukaku + cash offer. As long as we aren’t paying anywhere close to the £100m they were asking for earlier then it’s probably a gamble worth taking.

Lukaku + Kepa + 20 million.

[YorkshireBlue 3,273]

11 minutes ago, Strike said:

Lukaku + Kepa + 20 million.

That's 192m offer there

[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Of course Marina was the one signing off on deals. Football staff can't sign the cheques. That would be ridiculous. If you think I said that she didn't then you misread my comment, or are failing to pay enough attention to the varying responsibilities of of different roles in a large company. 

Not really, where I stand on her role is that if you're in that position you either have to take ultimate responsibility for the sign-off (as supposedly you're the one who has oversight of all aspects and you should have enough industry knowledge to know whatever is being signed off is correct or not) or you're there for other purposes (to act as a patsy, for good PR etc.) 

For me, you cannot be a Head/Director of something and then blame it on your underlings when things go pear shaped. As the day-to-day of any such role is to ensure that you're underlings do what is required and you have enough knowledge of whatever sector/industry etc, that you can tell if something is off/not right. If you can't do that, then you're there for other purposes. 

 

[King Kante 1,643]

13 minutes ago, Strike said:

Lukaku + Kepa + 20 million.

I would throw in Disaster as well and up the amount to £40m. Fuckers have hopefully not seen Disaster play. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,273]

12 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I would throw in Disaster as well and up the amount to £40m. Fuckers have hopefully not seen Disaster play. 

So like a 230m offer for him? Can see why most of you don't work in football.