Strike 7,761 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Tomo said: It's ironic because for years there was moaning we were waiting until Brighton, Benfica etc al were charging premiums for players until we tried to get them but now we're trying to get ahead of the game ourselves that's now a bad thing. Not a bad thing to do. But strengthen the XI as well. Signing Renato Veiga after tracking Calafiori for the first team is the issue. robsblubot, Blue Armour and Reddish-Blue 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 Do you guys remember Jackson and Caicedo's first say 10 matches in the PL? I know they eventually improved and played well, but until then it was painful. And I intentionally mentioned 2 players who were already proper footballers starting for good clubs. What about shy 18yo coming from SA? Where and when will they play? I'm actually curious about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,407 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 Every rival fans see Chelsea is not a threat anymore under these clowns only our fans are blinded thinking we will cook with kids not every kid have the same develop like Cole Palmer and not everyone kid are super talent. But even if they become high level footballers they will be sold for profit anyway after the team with ambitions come and offer them more salary. Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,341 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 18 minutes ago, milka said: Every rival fans see Chelsea is not a threat anymore under these clowns only our fans are blinded thinking we will cook with kids not every kid have the same develop like Cole Palmer and not everyone kid are super talent. But even if they become high level footballers they will be sold for profit anyway after the team with ambitions come and offer them more salary. Funny that, every rival fan I've spoken to on building sites in the UK all day the same, Chelsea will be back this season, any even more so alot are actually praising what we are doing as a club now. bigbluewillie, mkh, Wfisheruk and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,817 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 4 hours ago, Strike said: Not a bad thing to do. But strengthen the XI as well. Signing Renato Veiga after tracking Calafiori for the first team is the issue. He was literally Cala’s replacement. Not a bad piece of business at all. TheHulk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 7 hours ago, Tomo said: It's ironic because for years there was moaning we were waiting until Brighton, Benfica etc al were charging premiums for players until we tried to get them but now we're trying to get ahead of the game ourselves that's now a bad thing. Would be good if you named the players. Other than KDH, I'm not sure which of our signings were seriously linked to Brighton/Benfica. There's a reason why City/Arsenal aren't going after these 'project' players and that will once again show at the end of the season when we are barely in the top 6 and they are 20+ points away from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said: Funny that, every rival fan I've spoken to on building sites in the UK all day the same, Chelsea will be back this season, any even more so alot are actually praising what we are doing as a club now. That's interesting, the rival fans I've spoken with are delighted with the fact that we can't pull off top tier signings anymore (ever since Roman was told to sell the club). Particularly Liverpool, United and Arsenal fans love the fact that we are no longer a strong contender for a top 4 place. We used to be serious about being a competitive side and with quality managers at the helm, we managed to get a fair few trophies. Now we make it to cup finals and we look second best 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,341 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: That's interesting, the rival fans I've spoken with are delighted with the fact that we can't pull off top tier signings anymore (ever since Roman was told to sell the club). Particularly Liverpool, United and Arsenal fans love the fact that we are no longer a strong contender for a top 4 place. We used to be serious about being a competitive side and with quality managers at the helm, we managed to get a fair few trophies. Now we make it to cup finals and we look second best 😆 What was the last top signing under Roman? Hazard? What too signings are Liverpool and arsenal getting that we couldn't if we wanted? Liverpool wanted lavia and caicedo we got both, they got Endo 🫣 arsenal wanted mudryk, we got mudryk... We don't go for huge household names with massive price tags and stupidly high wages anymore, that's a choice not because "we can't" Edited July 6, 2024 by YorkshireBlue Thor and Mhsc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 18 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: That's interesting, the rival fans I've spoken with are delighted with the fact that we can't pull off top tier signings anymore (ever since Roman was told to sell the club). Particularly Liverpool, United and Arsenal fans love the fact that we are no longer a strong contender for a top 4 place. We used to be serious about being a competitive side and with quality managers at the helm, we managed to get a fair few trophies. Now we make it to cup finals and we look second best 😆 United fans are completely deluded. They’re in a way bigger hole than we have been and have so far been too incompetent to sign anyone. We’re finishing above them again. Norfolkblue1961 and Reddish-Blue 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,636 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 16 minutes ago, Pizy said: United fans are completely deluded. They’re in a way bigger hole than we have been and have so far been too incompetent to sign anyone. We’re finishing above them again. We aren't finishing above them if they get De Ligt, Ugarte and Zirkzee. Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 De Ligt and Ugarte are bench warmers for top clubs. Norfolkblue1961, mkh, Strike and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 23 minutes ago, TheHulk said: We aren't finishing above them if they get De Ligt, Ugarte and Zirkzee. De Ligt is as slow as Harry Maguire and flopped at Bayern. Ugarte got benched at PSG and isn’t fancied at all by the manager from what I’ve read. Zirkzee is just as big of a gamble as any of the young players we’re signing. He and Hojlund as their two strikers seems like a recipe for disaster for me. None of the moves they’re trying to make impress me at all. Norfolkblue1961 and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,817 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 50 minutes ago, TheHulk said: We aren't finishing above them if they get De Ligt, Ugarte and Zirkzee. Yes we are. All the players you hype are expensive then flop. Veiga was literally brought in as Calafiori's replacement at Basel. Not just that, if you actually go and watch a full game or some extended highlights, possesses a few qualities we actually need. He can't cross for shit, but the man is Dembele/Toure-esque in terms of holding that ball despite a two man press on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,817 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 Spoke to my Canadian mate - and he doesn't rate Jonathan David. At least not in the national team. Said he hasn't watched him for club but seen just about most of his games for country. Says he is a passenger in games and found it interesting bigger clubs were linked with him, but also said its telling he is going for cheap and still no one has come knocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,817 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said: What was the last top signing under Roman? Hazard? What too signings are Liverpool and arsenal getting that we couldn't if we wanted? Liverpool wanted lavia and caicedo we got both, they got Endo 🫣 arsenal wanted mudryk, we got mudryk... We don't go for huge household names with massive price tags and stupidly high wages anymore, that's a choice not because "we can't" Constantly spitting facts. YorkshireBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, Thor said: Spoke to my Canadian mate - and he doesn't rate Jonathan David. At least not in the national team. Said he hasn't watched him for club but seen just about most of his games for country. Says he is a passenger in games and found it interesting bigger clubs were linked with him, but also said its telling he is going for cheap and still no one has come knocking. I’ve seen similar sentiment about him with the Canadian national team. He basically does nothing with his country. But then you watch him at Lille and he looks genuinely good. Not great, but good. So I don’t know what to believe. There’s got to be a reason that in this current era of an extreme striker shortage no big club has ever moved for him. But for £20-30m perhaps he’s worth a punt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,660 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 people were losing their minds last summer after we failed to get ugarte. same with de ligt two summers ago. luis enrique did not even want ugarte to be bought because he did not fit his way of playing. de ligt was underwhelming at bayern but it does not mean he will be the same somewhere else. so i would slow down with calling those signings as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, whats happening said: people were losing their minds last summer after we failed to get ugarte. same with de ligt two summers ago. luis enrique did not even want ugarte to be bought because he did not fit his way of playing. de ligt was underwhelming at bayern but it does not mean he will be the same somewhere else. so i would slow down with calling those signings as bad. They’re not “bad” signings or bad players. They’re just not signings that make me worry about United. Just because they’re big or well known names doesn’t mean they’re top level signings. This is what United have been doing for years now. Bring in big famous names and then they flop or underwhelm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,139 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 Calafiori does look like an interesting player, and apparently he might be taking £65k per week at Arsenal. Last year Eghbali and Boehly would have boarded a private jet to personally persuade everyone involved that he is coming to Chelsea but now we just quietly buy another player that we think is better value without the need to start a bidding war. Not sure what to think on that but to be fair we have a good record at these kind of signings and I'll wait to see this lad before judging. Been an underwhelming transfer window so far but the thing is it always will be if we are going to pick up players before they make a big name for themselves, so I guess we should just get used to it. Most baffling thing to me at the moment is what is going on with the new manager? Why isn't he giving interviews and getting us excited about what he is going to do with our players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 6, 2024 Share Posted July 6, 2024 7 hours ago, Strike said: Not a bad thing to do. But strengthen the XI as well. Signing Renato Veiga after tracking Calafiori for the first team is the issue. And if we signed Calafiori a couple of years ago or even last year that would have been an "issue" too. Maybe we're just trying to get ahead of the game this time? YorkshireBlue, TheHulk and OhForAGreavsie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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