Chelsea Transfers

[Thor 2,719]

43 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

If he failed his physical why would Ornstein post about other PL clubs showing interest in signing him?    

https://motleedsnews.com/transfers/david-ornstein-shares-new-tyler-adams-update-after-leeds-united-saga/

You don't disclose why - and let other clubs make an independent assessment of whether to buy or not. 

Just like a house really. Don't like something that comes back in pre sale report - don't buy. Someone else might be okay with it though. 

[Duppy Conqueror 1,543]

Wish Jim Bowen was still alive for the presentation with his infamous sadistic Bullseye line "come and have a look at what you could have won" towards the away end.

[Vesper 30,224]

1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

If he failed his physical why would Ornstein post about other PL clubs showing interest in signing him?    

https://motleedsnews.com/transfers/david-ornstein-shares-new-tyler-adams-update-after-leeds-united-saga/

If he didn't I still do not want him.

Hopefully we get both Caicedo and Lavia, both of whom are superior players.

[robsblubot 3,595]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

Can I be a nobody whom someone pays around £200m (counting salary) for?

That's the price of big potential these days.

What has he accomplished in the game so far? personally, I'll wait and see what he does in big games, esp once we are back playing CL. Let's not pretend we've seen him dominating the midfield against the likes of Real Madrid for ex.

BTW, I used the same argument for one-year-left Mount for 70m and got no love. 😉

Edited August 13, 2023 by robsblubot

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

Chelsea are on the brink of signing Brighton midfielder Moises Caicedo, 21, in deal worth £115m as the Ecuador international prepares to snub Liverpool. (Sunday Telegraph - subscription required)

AND...

The agreement between Caicedo and Chelsea is for a contract until June 2031 plus an option for an extra year, with personal terms agreed in May. (Fabrizio Romano)

AND...

Liverpool are also set to lose out to Chelsea in their pursuit of 19-year-old Belgium midfielder Romeo Lavia, who is set to leave Southampton for Stamford Bridge in a £55m deal. (Mail)

[Cosmin 2,484]

115m for Caicedo is a huge amount of money, but just to put things into context a bit:

1. We had to pay that just because we didn't want to pay 100m initially and then Liverpool came up with 110m on the table. It is our board's fault partially, but at least they tried not to go obscene in this situation. It was impossible.

2. You're not paying the money only for Caicedo. You're paying it to unlock your whole team. Because his profile allows you to change Enzo's role + makes our attack much easier to work. 

3. Rival fans are so critical about us spending 105m on 22 y.o. Enzo, 115 on 21 y.o. Caicedo, and 55m on 19 y.o. Lavia. This is a total of 270m. It's a huge amount, but, again, let's put things into context. Liverpool paid 55m on 24 y.o. Mac Allister, 60m on 22 y.o. Szoboszlai and offered 110m on Caicedo. So that's a total of 225 m.

At the same time, we've made a total of 12m on Jorginho, 30m on Kovacic, 60m on Mount, 18.5m on RLC. I'm not gonna include Havertz here, because I consider him part of the attack, not the midfield. That's a total of 120,5m.

Liverpool made 40m on Fabinho, 17m on Henderson, 0m on Keita, 0m on Milner. That's a total of 57m. 

Therefore, the net spend for our midfield rebuild would be 149.5m, while they were willing to raise it up to 168m.

All amounts mentioned are with ad-ons included.

So yeah, this is what it takes to rebuild a midfield, like it or not. It's not the narrative that you'll be hearing from rival fans and virtue signaling journos, but it's the reality of football. It's also exactly what other clubs would do. Look at how much Arsenal paid for Rice, look at how much City spent on Rodri, Phillips etc. Look at how much Casemiro cost United.

 

[Bluepower777 37]

Why not use one or 2 of our many keepers as a backup to Sanchez, they have to play at some point in time 

[Thor 2,719]

1 hour ago, Bluepower777 said:

Why not use one or 2 of our many keepers as a backup to Sanchez, they have to play at some point in time 

You have some odd takes for a Chelsea fan lol

[Reddish-Blue 2,510]

2 hours ago, Cosmin said:

115m for Caicedo is a huge amount of money, but just to put things into context a bit:

1. We had to pay that just because we didn't want to pay 100m initially and then Liverpool came up with 110m on the table. It is our board's fault partially, but at least they tried not to go obscene in this situation. It was impossible.

2. You're not paying the money only for Caicedo. You're paying it to unlock your whole team. Because his profile allows you to change Enzo's role + makes our attack much easier to work. 

3. Rival fans are so critical about us spending 105m on 22 y.o. Enzo, 115 on 21 y.o. Caicedo, and 55m on 19 y.o. Lavia. This is a total of 270m. It's a huge amount, but, again, let's put things into context. Liverpool paid 55m on 24 y.o. Mac Allister, 60m on 22 y.o. Szoboszlai and offered 110m on Caicedo. So that's a total of 225 m.

At the same time, we've made a total of 12m on Jorginho, 30m on Kovacic, 60m on Mount, 18.5m on RLC. I'm not gonna include Havertz here, because I consider him part of the attack, not the midfield. That's a total of 120,5m.

Liverpool made 40m on Fabinho, 17m on Henderson, 0m on Keita, 0m on Milner. That's a total of 57m. 

Therefore, the net spend for our midfield rebuild would be 149.5m, while they were willing to raise it up to 168m.

All amounts mentioned are with ad-ons included.

So yeah, this is what it takes to rebuild a midfield, like it or not. It's not the narrative that you'll be hearing from rival fans and virtue signaling journos, but it's the reality of football. It's also exactly what other clubs would do. Look at how much Arsenal paid for Rice, look at how much City spent on Rodri, Phillips etc. Look at how much Casemiro cost United.

 

Rival fans are just salty as they thought our days of spending big were over after Roman was asked to sell the club.  

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

If he didn't I still do not want him.

Hopefully we get both Caicedo and Lavia, both of whom are superior players.

I agree that they are superior players, just not sure if 55 million on Lavia was needed considering we still lack quality in attack. 

Would have preferred that money go to someone like Kudus who could have helped our attack this season!

[shrenshah 186]

44 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Rival fans are just salty as they thought our days of spending big were over after Roman was asked to sell the club.  

I agree that they are superior players, just not sure if 55 million on Lavia was needed considering we still lack quality in attack. 

Would have preferred that money go to someone like Kudus who could have helped our attack this season!

We may still buy kudus and olise

[didi007 69]

3 hours ago, Cosmin said:

115m for Caicedo is a huge amount of money, but just to put things into context a bit:

1. We had to pay that just because we didn't want to pay 100m initially and then Liverpool came up with 110m on the table. It is our board's fault partially, but at least they tried not to go obscene in this situation. It was impossible.

2. You're not paying the money only for Caicedo. You're paying it to unlock your whole team. Because his profile allows you to change Enzo's role + makes our attack much easier to work. 

3. Rival fans are so critical about us spending 105m on 22 y.o. Enzo, 115 on 21 y.o. Caicedo, and 55m on 19 y.o. Lavia. This is a total of 270m. It's a huge amount, but, again, let's put things into context. Liverpool paid 55m on 24 y.o. Mac Allister, 60m on 22 y.o. Szoboszlai and offered 110m on Caicedo. So that's a total of 225 m.

At the same time, we've made a total of 12m on Jorginho, 30m on Kovacic, 60m on Mount, 18.5m on RLC. I'm not gonna include Havertz here, because I consider him part of the attack, not the midfield. That's a total of 120,5m.

Liverpool made 40m on Fabinho, 17m on Henderson, 0m on Keita, 0m on Milner. That's a total of 57m. 

Therefore, the net spend for our midfield rebuild would be 149.5m, while they were willing to raise it up to 168m.

All amounts mentioned are with ad-ons included.

So yeah, this is what it takes to rebuild a midfield, like it or not. It's not the narrative that you'll be hearing from rival fans and virtue signaling journos, but it's the reality of football. It's also exactly what other clubs would do. Look at how much Arsenal paid for Rice, look at how much City spent on Rodri, Phillips etc. Look at how much Casemiro cost United.

 

Caciedo is a big gamble. As we know already, all Brighton players look good there because of the system they play. Cucurella and Bissouma were giants there but havent actually set Chels and Spurs alight. Porter was great there but couldnt handle coaching Chelsea.  It will be interesting to see how Caciedo fairs in a new bigger club with all the pressure on top of it. 

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

No signings today 😒

[Pizy 18,952]

5 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

No signings today 😒

Yeah, it’s definitely starting to feel like that whole “Chelsea’s dream is to announce Caicedo before the game and unveil him to the crown at the Bridge” stuff was bullshit.

[Nero 1,874]

That's annoying af.

[Pizy 18,952]

Can’t see a massive, record transfer like this just being announced out of nowhere by the club. You’ll have Law, Ornstein, Romano etc all briefing that the deal is signed and done at least an hour ahead of it being made official. 

That’s why I’m still on edge right now. Too many twists and turns in this saga. I see most of the well known Chelsea YouTubers and personalities are talking trash and celebrating as if it’s 100% done and I just cringe. Don’t do that unless the club announces it or you make our whole fanbase look bad if he goes to Liverpool!

[Hamilton 2,120]

Wow it’s so calm here, silence before the storm?

[DH1988 1,348]

I think we’re holding off wrapping up the Lavia deal incase Liverpool then put their resources to Moises. To take both away from them would be a coup for sure, but I’m still so disappointed we are having to pay £115m for a player we could have had wrapped up for £100m or less weeks ago with a full pre season.

[Tomo 21,751]

15 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

I think we’re holding off wrapping up the Lavia deal incase Liverpool then put their resources to Moises. To take both away from them would be a coup for sure, but I’m still so disappointed we are having to pay £115m for a player we could have had wrapped up for £100m or less weeks ago with a full pre season.

I wouldn't be so sure.

If we shown willingness to bid £100m at an early stage there's no way Bloom wasnt moving the goalposts and raising the price.

[Mhsc 1,098]

4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I wouldn't be so sure.

If we shown willingness to bid £100m at an early stage there's no way Bloom wasnt moving the goalposts and raising the price.

Exactly, this narrative is naive IMO, if we bid £100m early on in the window then to Bloom that is 100% proof the lad is worth £120m, £130m, etc.

[Pizy 18,952]

Genuinely surprised at the complete silence this morning from all the usual journalists. Expected at least several updates even if the announcement doesn’t happen today.