Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, DDA said: Hold my hands up.. I was one of those clowns...we were just desperate for t to work... we needed a striker but we all knew deep down that we were fooling ourselves. Theres no shame in that we all(For the most part) were all for this because Lukaku on his day is quality and was what we needed. It hasn't worked out but its really down to his attitude. No question about his quality on his day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: Theres no shame in that we all(For the most part) were all for this because Lukaku on his day is quality and was what we needed. It hasn't worked out but its really down to his attitude. No question about his quality on his day. No not really, he also failed at United. He is not good enough for a top side and low block. He is the ultimate flat track bully. Some people still don’t get it. Norfolkblue1961 and King Kante 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Getting.Close.FC. I am guaranteed to see Caicedo and Chelsea play in Atlanta. I would like it to be Caicedo playing for Chelsea. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,710 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 minute ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Getting.Close.FC. I am guaranteed to see Caicedo and Chelsea play in Atlanta. I would like it to be Caicedo playing for Chelsea. Dew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 As if some Italian rag would know what’s going on with Caicedo or Chelsea. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: Theres no shame in that we all(For the most part) were all for this because Lukaku on his day is quality and was what we needed. It hasn't worked out but its really down to his attitude. No question about his quality on his day. No he was guaranteed to fail bc the picture he has of himself is and never was in line with what he is. He thinks of himself as some kind of one man counter attack that steamrolls through defenses and gets in a finish (which proved somewhat accurate in Serie A but never in PL) while TT thought of him as a classic target man which also was off. This coincided in him being misused but this does not excuse his extreme wastefulness which ultimately is due to his lack of quality. So while without his terrible attitude and the tactical mismatch I still think he would never have been good enough to ake us challenge for the title. Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Lukaku walking into the Bridge to face the Chelsea fans after everything he’s said and done: DDA and bigbluewillie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mário César said: Is he going to show up in empty facilities as everyone is gone to USA? We are the only top-tier team capable of such circus 😂 54 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: No he was guaranteed to fail bc the picture he has of himself is and never was in line with what he is. He thinks of himself as some kind of one man counter attack that steamrolls through defenses and gets in a finish (which proved somewhat accurate in Serie A but never in PL) while TT thought of him as a classic target man which also was off. This coincided in him being misused but this does not excuse his extreme wastefulness which ultimately is due to his lack of quality. So while without his terrible attitude and the tactical mismatch I still think he would never have been good enough to ake us challenge for the title. May be that Conte is the one who knows how to get to him. It was obvious he won't excel in PL as he somehow managed in Serie A, but if he at least tried, he still could be of some use with his physicality. In Conte-less Inter he seemed as indifferent as when in here. And apparently he still can't find his place, as he thought Inter is the one, but apparently not at all. Edited July 15, 2023 by Vegetable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: It hasn't worked out but its really down to his attitude. No question about his quality on his day. I totally disagree about his quality, for me he was never good enough for the top level, a good top flight level scorer at a club like Everton was his ceiling. But even if we ignore that, hindsight can't be used about the attitude, his lack of character has been an open secret for a decade, we had an in house example already for god sake. Norfolkblue1961 and Blue Armour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,089 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: Still can't believe we're dragging on the Caicedo negotiations. Surely we could have moved for an alternative midfielder by now. Either that or the football boffins up stairs don’t have an alternative which is even worse. To have shifted Jorginho, Kante, Kovacic and RLC in the last 12 months and having only Enzo as a new midfield player in that time is a pretty poor transfer strategy. Hopefully we seal the Caicedo deal (price will be ridiculous though either way) and another good level, experienced midfielder at least and soon to make their integration smoother. We will be in big trouble if we do not. Edited July 15, 2023 by OneMoSalah Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Alternative means Plan B. Why opting for a plan B if plan A is possible? Im just mad that we didnt go for Rice. All other so called alternatives like Thuram or Kone or stuff are ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 32 minutes ago, Gundalf said: Alternative means Plan B. Why opting for a plan B if plan A is possible? Im just mad that we didnt go for Rice. All other so called alternatives like Thuram or Kone or stuff are ass. Thuram pisses all over the cart horse rice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Either that or the football boffins up stairs don’t have an alternative which is even worse. To have shifted Jorginho, Kante, Kovacic and RLC in the last 12 months and having only Enzo as a new midfield player in that time is a pretty poor transfer strategy. Hopefully we seal the Caicedo deal (price will be ridiculous though either way) and another good level, experienced midfielder at least and soon to make their integration smoother. We will be in big trouble if we do not. We tried to move for Ugarte but then PSG overpowered us for him and for whatever reason we still haven't put in a bid for Lavia (who will be a star for years to come in the PL) Now the rumors of Arsenal going back in for Caicedo (if they sell Partey to Saudi League)...once again, the club has shown zero planning when it comes to getting transfers done early! Arsenal wanted a midfielder, they got Rice, Newcastle got Tonali, United got Mount, Liverpool got MacAllister and likely to get Lavia/Thuram/someone else into their midfield Why is it only us struggling to sign any midfielders and giving them as much time as possible to settle into Poch's tactics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: We tried to move for Ugarte but then PSG overpowered us for him and for whatever reason we still haven't put in a bid for Lavia (who will be a star for years to come in the PL) Now the rumors of Arsenal going back in for Caicedo (if they sell Partey to Saudi League)...once again, the club has shown zero planning when it comes to getting transfers done early! Arsenal wanted a midfielder, they got Rice, Newcastle got Tonali, United got Mount, Liverpool got MacAllister and likely to get Lavia/Thuram/someone else into their midfield Why is it only us struggling to sign any midfielders and giving them as much time as possible to settle into Poch's tactics? where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,204 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Arsenal are not getting Caicedo aswell as Rice. That's just not happening. We really need to get a fucking move on though. Time is ticking. lucio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 . At least Brighton have their preseason the states too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Mário César said: thoughts? Touching but we need players with actual technical ability. It would be nice to live in some fantasy world where Lampard is the manger , all the players are English. Cheek is flying into tackles , Gallagher scoring from 40 yards etc but it’s not the reality arsenal will find out the hard way, that they pissed away over £100m on an average brexit bum Costa19, Vegetable and Norfolkblue1961 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrenshah 186 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) Lukaku is giving me malouda vibes Inter are out, juve have just given verbal bid and i really dont see him going there given the abuse he got from juve fans, see juve back out and rightly so by aug. All depends on saudi now, if lukaku doesnt want to go there then we are screwed. Thats 50m+ possible income+salary savings rotting in reserves. I would rather take vlahovic for lukaku + 21m and send broja to pl loan to let him regain fitness. Or worst case sell broja after pre season if poch doesnt see the magic for crazy sum like 40-50m which someone in prem will surely be willing to pay. We are paying 21m for some franka dude noone has heard, same amount on vlahovic will be a better bet. Edited July 16, 2023 by shrenshah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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