Pizy 19,255 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, whats happening said: united and neymar are in talks. possible loan That would be a hilariously terrible move for both him and United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,763 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, whats happening said: united and neymar are in talks. possible loan for all his technical gifts, its a bad idea to sign neymar. The tradeoff on pressing and aggression is way too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,255 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Superblue said: If you view it alternatively we've already got in earlier than everyone to get Enzo who, despite different profiles and characteristics, I think was the all round best midfielder on the market at the time we bought him and is better than all the other targets currently out there. I think if we hadn't got that done in January, we'd struggle to get him now as all the other top Prem teams would be seriously looking at him. We also invested in the likes of Andrey Santos and Casedei who whilst aren't currently ready for the first team, do have to be factored in if they are highly rated around the club. You have to believe that Poch is essentially a done deal and it's up to the club when to announce him. I believe this won't be done now until after the Newcastle game next weekend. But that doesn't mean discussions haven't already taken place with Poch with regards to incomings and outgoings. It's been widely reported already that we want to target a keeper, midfielder and striker this summer. Whilst it appears most of the big teams are targeting a midfielder this summer, I do think the depth pool of deep lying midfielders is pretty good. Ironically us potentially selling Kovacic and possibly Mount and Gallagher too might well have a knock on effect with regards to opposition clubs transfer targets. For example if City buy Kova to replace Gundogan, who then moves to Arsenal, that's two rivals spots filled. Arsenal may still target another midfielder but not likely two more. Your Enzo point is spot on and it was extremely important that we got that done when we did. But when it comes to Andrey Santos and Casadei I think some of our supporters need to cool it with them. Not you, but I see a lot of our supporters in social media clamoring for them to be part of the first team next season. This will be a season in which making top 4 is absolutely imperative and our #1 mandate. One game a week, fresh legs, plenty of training time under a great manager. We can’t really afford to throw a couple of teenagers into the most important area of the pitch to learn on the job. Superblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Superblue 6,372 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 33 minutes ago, Pizy said: Your Enzo point is spot on and it was extremely important that we got that done when we did. But when it comes to Andrey Santos and Casadei I think some of our supporters need to cool it with them. Not you, but I see a lot of our supporters in social media clamoring for them to be part of the first team next season. This will be a season in which making top 4 is absolutely imperative and our #1 mandate. One game a week, fresh legs, plenty of training time under a great manager. We can’t really afford to throw a couple of teenagers into the most important area of the pitch to learn on the job. I agree I don't think either is ready, but with the investment made in both, you would assume there is an expectation that they are capable of reaching a Chelsea calibre level in time but for that the club also has to plan a pathway for them. Does the club continue down the route of bringing in another young player who still needs to develop, or do they look at one or two additions this summer of players that are more in their prime years or a bit more experienced? Like you mentioned, next season is critical to get back amongst the top 4 and not find ourselves another year outside the elite, so do we move on someone like Lavia for example, or someone with a bit more experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,661 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Pizy said: That would be a hilariously terrible move for both him and United. 1 hour ago, Strike said: for all his technical gifts, its a bad idea to sign neymar. The tradeoff on pressing and aggression is way too much i wish we would loan him. whats the worst that can happen? he would instantly become our best player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,255 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, whats happening said: i wish we would loan him. whats the worst that can happen? he would instantly become our best player. Where would he play? We’re already loaded with wide attackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,085 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, whats happening said: i wish we would loan him. whats the worst that can happen? he would instantly become our best player. We can't afford luxury players. If we had a solid base, I would have been in favour of pursuing him. 4 minutes ago, Pizy said: Where would he play? We’re already loaded with wide attackers. Behind a CF rather than out wide. Edited May 22, 2023 by LAM09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Wouldn't waste a second thought on Neymar: a has been who never were Vini Jr seems to be unhappy in Spain 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,341 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 46 minutes ago, LAM09 said: We can't afford luxury players. If we had a solid base, I would have been in favour of pursuing him. Behind a CF rather than out wide. Haven't got one of them either 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,085 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Haven't got one of them either 🤣 Did you forget about Havertz? 😏 Edited May 22, 2023 by LAM09 YorkshireBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 9 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Absolute bullshit they lowered it from 15 points deduction to ony 10. The motherfuckers can still easily get Europe, and maybe even still sneak into the CL, if they beat AC Milan, beat Udinese on the final day and AC Milan loses to Verona on the final day. The 2 other teams (Atalanta and Roma) between Juve and AC Milan have to win both of their 2 games to keep above Juve, and Atalanta has two hard games (Inter and the team right below Juve, Monza), and Roma play Fiorentina away plus Spezia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,763 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 11 hours ago, whats happening said: i wish we would loan him. whats the worst that can happen? he would instantly become our best player. Its the wrong idea to load the squad with people like Felix and Neymar. They would be putting the manager under pressure to be starting even when their form is not the best. Their pressing and aggression is also not elite - so they affect the team overall too. Trust the recruitment, target attackers like Nkunku and we will improve. I would rather have 6-7 hungry players challenging for positions (like City attack now) than having to manage 2 people like Felix and Neymar. Vegetable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,407 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Romeo Lavia or Moises Caicedo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, milka said: Romeo Lavia or Moises Caicedo ? lavia would probably be way cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, lucio said: lavia would probably be way cheaper Out of the two lavia would be my choice as he is younger, cheaper and not significantly inferior. Both do not produce enough in the final third tho. lucio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,763 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, milka said: Romeo Lavia or Moises Caicedo ? Caicedo- Slightly more experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,477 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 caicedo and ugarte 75m for caicedo and 50M for ugarte with our outgoings I believe we have money enough to buy both kexik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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