Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Vesper said: here is every single DMF listed at €20m or more (in order of valuation) that I rate and who are actually even remotely available Nicolò Barella is listed as a CMF but he is in the mix too, same for Frenkie de Jong, but both are crazy hard pulls DMFs: Aurélien Tchouaméni (I doubt Real will sell him) Declan Rice (too expensive) Bruno Guimarães (hard pull, super player) Moisés Caicedo Sandro Tonali (I doubt AC Milan will sell him) Amadou Onana Martín Zubimendi Rúben Neves Khéphren Thuram Roméo Lavia Manuel Ugarte I would prefer someone who compliments Enzo. So ideally his partner should be a tall, a goal threat, be able to win the ball up high and carry it vertically at pace. Kephren Thuram is still raw but he is the best match under this consideration. Would give it a shot. He is also versatile and would not cost a bomb. French league is the most similar one to PL out of the continental leagues as well. LAM09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Vesper said: here is every single DMF listed at €20m or more (in order of valuation) that I rate and who are actually even remotely available Nicolò Barella is listed as a CMF but he is in the mix too, same for Frenkie de Jong, but both are crazy hard pulls DMFs: Aurélien Tchouaméni (I doubt Real will sell him) Declan Rice (too expensive) Bruno Guimarães (hard pull, super player) Moisés Caicedo Sandro Tonali (I doubt AC Milan will sell him) Amadou Onana Martín Zubimendi Rúben Neves Khéphren Thuram Roméo Lavia Manuel Ugarte From all these names it’s between Caicedo and Ugarte for me. We don’t need number 8 types like Tonali/Neves/Bruno etc. we need a proper #6. A hard man to be a screen in front of the defense. Someone who occupies that same exact space Jorginho did as essentially an extra CB but who is MUCH more athletic and mobile. Rice would be picture perfect but he’s apparently not possible for us anymore. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,204 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pizy said: From all these names it’s between Caicedo and Ugarte for me. We don’t need number 8 types like Tonali/Neves/Bruno etc. we need a proper #6. A hard man to be a screen in front of the defense. Someone who occupies that same exact space Jorginho did as essentially an extra CB but who is MUCH more athletic and mobile. Rice would be picture perfect but he’s apparently not possible for us anymore. Just watched a compilation of Ugarte vs City. He was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, DDA said: Just watched a compilation of Ugarte vs City. He was awful. Tbf, City can make anyone look awful. Look what they just did to that legendary Real Madrid midfield that schooled us a few weeks ago. Not putting a lot of stock into what a player from a vastly inferior club did against the best side in world football. I’d have Caicedo before Ugarte, though. Already PL proven which several reports have said Poch wants to prioritize. But would he choose us who are out of the CL ahead of Arse/Liverpool/United/City who could all have it? Probably not. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 16 hours ago, Pizy said: Tbf, City can make anyone look awful. Look what they just did to that legendary Real Madrid midfield that schooled us a few weeks ago. Not putting a lot of stock into what a player from a vastly inferior club did against the best side in world football. I’d have Caicedo before Ugarte, though. Already PL proven which several reports have said Poch wants to prioritize. But would he choose us who are out of the CL ahead of Arse/Liverpool/United/City who could all have it? Probably not. Liverpool appear to be prioritising MacAlister, Arsenal are after Rice. There is an opening to target Caicedo now - if there is a release clause in his new contract or Brighton willing to do business in the 65-70m range they were talking to Arsenal in January about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 45 minutes ago, Strike said: Liverpool appear to be prioritising MacAlister, Arsenal are after Rice. There is an opening to target Caicedo now - if there is a release clause in his new contract or Brighton willing to do business in the 65-70m range they were talking to Arsenal in January about. The word I’m seeing from both sets of supporters is that Liverpool and Arse will likely be after more than 1 new midfielder. Liverpool in particular. If Arse get Rice then I doubt they’d be able to also afford Caicedo but I can absolutely see Liverpool going after both Mac Allister and Caicedo. Which would be really, REALLY annoying because they would transform that team. I think Caicedo will be the next most difficult to obtain for us after Rice due to how many other clubs are after him. My prediction is that we get Lavia in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,186 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Just out of curiosity, is Onana that next level keeper we need? As I rate both Kepa and Edou on the "almost there, but not there" level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,373 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said: Just out of curiosity, is Onana that next level keeper we need? As I rate both Kepa and Edou on the "almost there, but not there" level. Hasn’t appeared a massive upgrade on either to me in the games I’ve watched. ulsterchelsea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,373 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Vlahovic rumors heating up then? Any of the reliable journos reporting this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said: Just out of curiosity, is Onana that next level keeper we need? As I rate both Kepa and Edou on the "almost there, but not there" level. no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Vytis33 said: Vlahovic rumors heating up then? Any of the reliable journos reporting this yet? Hope not. Poor at holding the ball, poor passing, and poor in tight areas. Will fall on his face in the Prem. Can't think of a ST more destined to carry on the #9 curse at Chelsea. If true convinced out recruitment team needs questioning if this is who they've decided on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,204 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Hope not. Poor at holding the ball, poor passing, and poor in tight areas. Will fall on his face in the Prem. Can't think of a ST more destined to carry on the #9 curse at Chelsea. If true convinced out recruitment team needs questioning if this is who they've decided on. He hasn't been great at Juve but he was in my opinion a very promising player at Fiorentina. It just hasn't been great for him at Juve. He has more to offer but yea, I kind of understand where you're coming from.... I would rather Rasmus Hojlund, I think he has greater potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, DDA said: He hasn't been great at Juve but he was in my opinion a very promising player at Fiorentina. It just hasn't been great for him at Juve. He has more to offer but yea, I kind of understand where you're coming from.... I would rather Rasmus Hojlund, I think he has greater potential. To pass the Premier League test you need to see how these strikers do in tight areas as well as how they hold the ball. He's poor in both. Give me Lautaro with Nkunku supporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Vytis33 said: Vlahovic rumors heating up then? Any of the reliable journos reporting this yet? Rather wait 8 months and get Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) Vlahovic has been shit this season plus Juve are not under that much pressure now to sell due to this: Juventus' 15-point penalty for illicit transfer activity is reversed https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65329536 Edited May 21, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said: Rather wait 8 months and get Tony. we can't wait 6 months of the season for Toney LAM09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Vytis33 said: Vlahovic rumors heating up then? Any of the reliable journos reporting this yet? Reliable journos have shot it down now I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Interested, but no talks Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 He still just seems a bit too much of a project. And that’s not what we need. We need a finished product of a #9. Someone who can do for us what Haaland has done at City or what RvP did when he went to United. Even what Gabriel Jesus did initially at Arse before he got injured. A striker that can come in, instantly hit the ground running, and look like they’ve been part of the team for years. Of course there’s no one out there quite at the RvP/Haaland level that’s readily available but there’s gotta be someone better than Vlahovic. He has flop written all over him if we were to spend huge money on him. His talent is there but the production isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 33 minutes ago, Pizy said: He still just seems a bit too much of a project. And that’s not what we need. We need a finished product of a #9. Someone who can do for us what Haaland has done at City or what RvP did when he went to United. Even what Gabriel Jesus did initially at Arse before he got injured. A striker that can come in, instantly hit the ground running, and look like they’ve been part of the team for years. Of course there’s no one out there quite at the RvP/Haaland level that’s readily available but there’s gotta be someone better than Vlahovic. He has flop written all over him if we were to spend huge money on him. His talent is there but the production isn’t. vlahovic is short to us why paid so much in a juventus flop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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