Chelsea Transfers

[Special Juan 28,146]

1 minute ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

His first post didn't bother me in the least, nor do i think it should have bothered anyone. He spoke directly but he spoke the truth as he sees it, as I'm sure many would see it. There has indeed been a display of self-entitlement displayed here.

I agree in part with what your saying but we all know that people can construe things in different ways and some can take things differently, human nature.

I'm happy for clean and concise debate, but stepping over the line by swiping at the club who's forum he is on is not warranted or needed.

I'm going to start removing posts if they over step the line and I would like the thread to get back to Enzo and transfers after I post this, if it continues I will lock the thread

[TheHulk 2,482]

Just now, Costa19 said:

Backup as in Saul or Bakayoko??

Nice business selling Jorge and miss out on Enzo..

Sangare, Alvarez, Sander or 100M Caicedo fml, 500M spent and we look all over the fucking place

[DDA 9,941]

16 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Refuse to believe we let Jorginho go without knowing we can get this done. 

 I'm not sure J5 was in Graham Potter's plans going forward anyway but yea, it would seen strange  to let him go without a replacement lined up.

[Special Juan 28,146]

Talks on going apparently and Chelsea have tabled a few different structures to Benfica and this could late into tonight.

[LAM09 7,062]

1 minute ago, DDA said:

 I'm not sure J5 was in Graham Potter's plans going forward anyway but yea, it would seen strange  to let him go without a replacement lined up.

The club is pushing for Santos' work permit, so he'd be the replacement for the next six months should we fail to get anyone else in.

[DDA 9,941]

Apparently we have just bidded for Sabitzer as Enzo is falling through..

Fuck my life.

[Costa19 858]

7 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Sangare, Alvarez, Sander or 100M Caicedo fml, 500M spent and we look all over the fucking place

Even worse... this day will be a nightmare

[Vesper 30,225]

43 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I know I'm repeating myself so forgive me please, but I don't think Benfica are holding out for the clause. I believe they are holding out for more than the clause.

They legally cannot demand more than the release clause. If we bank wired the €120m to wherever it needs to go, Enzo (as he has already agreed perso Al terms with us) is going to be a Chelsea player, nothing Benfica can do to legally stop it.

[Special Juan 28,146]

Nope Romano confirmed Sabitzer is in talks with United directy as Eriksenn is now injured we are focused on other targets

[Costa19 858]

1 minute ago, LAM09 said:

The club is pushing for Santos' work permit, so he'd be the replacement for the next six months should we fail to get anyone else in.

I believe the plan was to play Santos as the defensive anchor next to Enzo but it looks like we will have to rethink that since Sabitzer is on his way in LOL 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

15 minutes ago, DDA said:

Nothing arrogant about it at all. Befinca fans should face the reality of things. They are a very well run club, you could argue that they are far better run than us from a financial point of view... but they are nothing more than a feeder club for the elite around Europe.... I think they are happy with that status from board room level but obviously their fans are going to take it harder than the suits who get their pockets lined with the sales.

It is arrogant. Benfica have actually got huge footballing history and have been key in the development of some hugely talented footballers and managers careers. Not just a piddly wee club. I mean saying “nothing more than a feeder club for the elite around Europe” do you not see how arrogant that sounds 🤣? I mean we are sitting 10th in the PL FFS not as if we are exactly a shining beacon of an elite level football club at present, are we? 

I get there is frustration around how they are sticking to their guns but belittling a club like Benfica is odd. 

12 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Visitors should be welcome here. If he has a different opinion to most here so what? By my reckoning the first inappropriate post was written to him not by him.

Fully agree. I get its tense in here with the Fernandez saga but don’t think the Benfica fan started it.

15 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Coming here right when it looks like the deal is in collapse, I'm sure his intentions we're pure..

It seems as if the deals been in a state of animation for hours now. It went from it was basically done to it was now close. Now its perceived not to be close.

Hardly as if its the guys fault is it 😂 but I suppose any excuse to vent off frustrations….

20 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Visitors are welcome but when they come through the door and start taking swipes at what the club is or isn't it crosses a line, then that leads to heckles up.

Dead simple

Pretty sure one of our members belittled his club first. 

[ulvhedin 526]

Sonsup Bell oficially in Tottenham

 

[Special Juan 28,146]

@OneMoSalah back on trend now please- transfer talk only.

[LAM09 7,062]

3 minutes ago, Costa19 said:

I believe the plan was to play Santos as the defensive anchor next to Enzo but it looks like we will have to rethink that since Sabitzer is on his way in LOL 

I've just read that we're giving Utd a clear run at him instead, which is good news.

Edited January 31, 2023 by LAM09

[Superblue 6,372]

Whilst I want us to buy Enzo, I do always find it funny on here on or around deadline day. It's always a complete toxic meltdown.

I think if we don't buy Enzo in this window it won't be for the want of trying, and it shouldn't be forgotten all the other positive moves made in this window. Rome wasn't built in a day and Chelsea won't complete a rebuild in a window or two. 

[TheHulk 2,482]

1 minute ago, Superblue said:

Whilst I want us to buy Enzo, I do always find it funny on here on or around deadline day. It's always a complete toxic meltdown.

I think if we don't buy Enzo in this window it won't be for the want of trying, and it shouldn't be forgotten all the other positive moves made in this window. Rome wasn't built in a day and Chelsea won't complete a rebuild in a window or two. 

Boehly spent 500M looks like he wanted to build Rome in one season and instead he is building a village.

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

2 minutes ago, Superblue said:

Whilst I want us to buy Enzo, I do always find it funny on here on or around deadline day. It's always a complete toxic meltdown.

I think if we don't buy Enzo in this window it won't be for the want of trying, and it shouldn't be forgotten all the other positive moves made in this window. Rome wasn't built in a day and Chelsea won't complete a rebuild in a window or two. 

Think a lot of that is clouded by the fact we  weakened a position that was already in a terrible state by selling Jorginho whilst bringing in no one. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

15 minutes ago, Vesper said:

They legally cannot demand more than the release clause. If we bank wired the €120m to wherever it needs to go, Enzo (as he has already agreed perso Al terms with us) is going to be a Chelsea player, nothing Benfica can do to legally stop it.

They can't prevent us triggering the clause that is correct obviously.

What they can do, and I believe are (or were) doing, is to point out that a 'standard' transfer, even for an amount above the clause figure, can actually cost Chelsea less because of the tax implications. That is already better for The Blues, even without the advantage that comes from being able to amortise the accounting of a standard transfer fee for FFP reporting. They can argue that it would therefore be in Chelsea's interests to pay a higher figure specifically to avoid the clause, and they would be right.

This is what I believe is behind those reports which have claimed the we offered more than €120m. The latest number I've seen quoted (in this thread) is £115m, which is well north of €120m of course.

Edited January 31, 2023 by OhForAGreavsie

[TheHulk 2,482]

The owners are so delusional think everyone knew 6 installments was to much from the get go, how about you offer something that's eye catching for them instead of this shit.

[Superblue 6,372]

Just now, TheHulk said:

Boehly spent 500M looks like he wanted to build Rome in one season and instead he is building a village.

That's your interpretation.

I think it's important to put things into context and really split the summer from this window when we've started to put together a structure more along the lines of what the club is looking to do in the long term. We've bought some players in who are extremely highly rated young talents, and whilst its very early days, I think the signs are promising for Mudryk and Badiashile that they will become extremely important players here for a long time.

Madueke I think is only a risk purely on injury history but he's another that adds pure pace and the ability to attack defenders which we've lacked since the likes of Willian and Hazard left the club. 

And Gusto is arguably the highest rated young right back around who we've signed up.

And if reports are true, Nkunku too.

I look at these moves with a lot of positivity that there is a lot of talent there to help us short term but also an enormous amount of potential to help us even more long term. 

The midfield clearly needs to be sorted out, but if Enzo doesn't happen now, I'd rather we hold firm and sort things in the summer than go for short term fixes or panic buys. I'm hoping the Gusto deal suggests that the club moving forward are more prepared to wait to get their top targets rather than settling with who is the best target now.