blahblahblah 73 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, lluubbeenn said: We want Nkunku and Gvardiol. We do not want anything from Ajax and based on experience I doubt we will sign anyone from the Eredivisie anytime soon. LOL Let's hope there is some sort of a gentleman's agreement in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, blahblahblah said: We sold Werner for 20m€ but demanding 44m€ for ziyech? Weird Werner was on £270K/wk wages while Ziyech only earns £100K/wk. That makes a massive difference from the perspective of the buying club and with Werner the fee had to be low because of his ridiculous salary. Ziyech's current wage is probably still a bit much for Ajax but with a small pay cut he'd slot quite nicely among the club's top earners. I'm sure they had to pay a good salary to sign Bergwijn from Spurs too. I think €44M for Ziyech is over the top because for starters he's not been all that great for us and he's also two years older now. Somewhere around €30M would be more than fair IMO, especially seeing as Ajax are about to roll around in money after selling Antony for close to a €100M so they can't exactly say they can't afford to pay the money for Ziyech. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jype said: Werner was on £270K/wk wages while Ziyech only earns £100K/wk. That makes a massive difference from the perspective of the buying club and with Werner the fee had to be low because of his ridiculous salary. Ziyech's current wage is probably still a bit much for Ajax but with a small pay cut he'd slot quite nicely among the club's top earners. I'm sure they had to pay a good salary to sign Bergwijn from Spurs too. I think €44M for Ziyech is over the top because for starters he's not been all that great for us and he's also two years older now. Somewhere around €30M would be more than fair IMO, especially seeing as Ajax are about to roll around in money after selling Antony for close to a €100M so they can't exactly say they can't afford to pay the money for Ziyech. Kinda irrelevant since a new contract and wages are agreed when they join a new club. definitely think we got bamboozled with Werner, think about we sold him to closer what we we got for Emerson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Ali Dursun (De Jong's agent) is now in Barcelona. He just came from London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 i am with you @OhForAGreavsie, I don’t see anything special about Leao. what is your thoughts on Antony? Tough one imo, I see some very good traits but I also see him being very one footed and one trick pony cutting inside from the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: 😂😂 Brilliant, can't wait for him to light it up here. Friendly games with rb Lewis, lb Gomez, gk Ortega and Walker as CB is exactly the kind of opposition and atmosphere that we should be looking at. Guess on that logic de jong scored he's also shit n all. And by your own standards of thinking Pep is great and knows what he's doing... but Barca only scored 3 because of the players not the manager right? Edited August 25, 2022 by Kong Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Clockwork said: i am with you @OhForAGreavsie, I don’t see anything special about Leao. what is your thoughts on Antony? Tough one imo, I see some very good traits but I also see him being very one footed and one trick pony cutting inside from the right. Sancho and Antony play same position right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kong said: Sancho and Antony play same position right? Probably no. Sancho play on the left, while Antony will play on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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blahblahblah 73 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kong said: Guess on that logic de jong scored he's also shit n all. And by your own standards of thinking Pep is great and knows what he's doing... but Barca only scored 3 because of the players not the manager right? Hmmm. My logic? My logic is based on 1.5 years of PL games where he sucked? I am not the one basing his supposed greatness off off a friendly game. So please understand and be coherent about your post. Because you make no sense. As far as de Jong is concerned. He did not suck for for a significant amount of time in his career. So again, don't understand what you are blabbering? Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Kinda irrelevant since a new contract and wages are agreed when they join a new club. definitely think we got bamboozled with Werner, think about we sold him to closer what we we got for Emerson. It's definitely not irrelevant, unless the player willingly accepts to cut his wage by 70% give or take a few. Werner cut his wages by around €120K/wk to make the move but is still getting €190K/wk at Leipzig and together with Nkunku is now their highest paid player. Only a couple others are even above the €100K/wk mark for them so committing that much money in Werner's salary for the next four years certainly meant they couldn't possibly pay a huge transfer fee on top. Either Leipzig would have paid a bigger one-off transfer fee and Chelsea would have given Werner a portion of that (a golden handshake) to compensate for the salary decrease, or accept a smaller fee and Leipzig agree a totally new wage package for Werner and we get his costs off the books for good. I think a clean break was the better choice. Getting them to pay 40-50M and a huge salary on top was never going to be realistic, apart from a few elite teams most clubs outside the PL simply don't have that kind of money to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: Hmmm. My logic? My logic is based on 1.5 years of PL games where he sucked? I am not the one basing his supposed greatness off off a friendly game. So please understand and be coherent about your post. Because you make no sense. As far as de Jong is concerned. He did not suck for for a significant amount of time in his career. So again, don't understand what you are blabbering? How many seasons did auba spend at arsenal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,285 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 So it looks like we are definitely getting Anthony Gordon. At least we will have a player who works his socks off in every game. I'm getting really tired of watching players stroll around the pitch looking dumbfounded by an oppositions ability to play. Vesper, Blue Armour, ulsterchelsea and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, DDA said: So it looks like we are definitely getting Anthony Gordon. At least we will have a player who works his socks off in every game. I'm getting really tired of watching players stroll around the pitch looking dumbfounded by an oppositions ability to play. Not been funny mate give me 60m and ill sprint round thay pitch for 90 mins doesn't mean I'll do anything of note haha Clockwork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,408 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 So Sterling, Aubayemang, Gordon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kong said: How many seasons did auba spend at arsenal? How many seasons did he spend at arsenal being over 30 and how were they? Understand what happens when someone turns 30 or gets old? They decline? They lose speed, they lose agility, they lose athleticism. Do you understand what happens when that happens? It does not matter whatever shit he did in BVB or arsenal in his hay days. We are not getting THAT player. Please try and understand this very simple logic manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said: So Sterling, Aubayemang, Gordon? Mount benched? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: How many seasons did he spend at arsenal being over 30 and how were they? Understand what happens when someone turns 30 or gets old? They decline? They lose speed, they lose agility, they lose athleticism. Do you understand what happens when that happens? It does not matter whatever shit he did in BVB or arsenal in his hay days. We are not getting THAT player. Please try and understand this very simple logic Who mentioned BVB I asked how many seasons he was at arsenal, still didn't answer my actual question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,408 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: Mount benched? Does he not deserve to be? guddy69 and Vesper 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Does he not deserve to be? No not at all!! Player of the season 2 years running a few bad games doesn't warrant dropping him. Edited August 25, 2022 by Kong Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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