milka 3,393 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kong said: Guess on that logic de jong scored he's also shit n all. And by your own standards of thinking Pep is great and knows what he's doing... but Barca only scored 3 because of the players not the manager right? Hmmm. My logic? My logic is based on 1.5 years of PL games where he sucked? I am not the one basing his supposed greatness off off a friendly game. So please understand and be coherent about your post. Because you make no sense. As far as de Jong is concerned. He did not suck for for a significant amount of time in his career. So again, don't understand what you are blabbering? Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Kinda irrelevant since a new contract and wages are agreed when they join a new club. definitely think we got bamboozled with Werner, think about we sold him to closer what we we got for Emerson. It's definitely not irrelevant, unless the player willingly accepts to cut his wage by 70% give or take a few. Werner cut his wages by around €120K/wk to make the move but is still getting €190K/wk at Leipzig and together with Nkunku is now their highest paid player. Only a couple others are even above the €100K/wk mark for them so committing that much money in Werner's salary for the next four years certainly meant they couldn't possibly pay a huge transfer fee on top. Either Leipzig would have paid a bigger one-off transfer fee and Chelsea would have given Werner a portion of that (a golden handshake) to compensate for the salary decrease, or accept a smaller fee and Leipzig agree a totally new wage package for Werner and we get his costs off the books for good. I think a clean break was the better choice. Getting them to pay 40-50M and a huge salary on top was never going to be realistic, apart from a few elite teams most clubs outside the PL simply don't have that kind of money to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: Hmmm. My logic? My logic is based on 1.5 years of PL games where he sucked? I am not the one basing his supposed greatness off off a friendly game. So please understand and be coherent about your post. Because you make no sense. As far as de Jong is concerned. He did not suck for for a significant amount of time in his career. So again, don't understand what you are blabbering? How many seasons did auba spend at arsenal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 So it looks like we are definitely getting Anthony Gordon. At least we will have a player who works his socks off in every game. I'm getting really tired of watching players stroll around the pitch looking dumbfounded by an oppositions ability to play. ulsterchelsea, mkh, Vesper and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, DDA said: So it looks like we are definitely getting Anthony Gordon. At least we will have a player who works his socks off in every game. I'm getting really tired of watching players stroll around the pitch looking dumbfounded by an oppositions ability to play. Not been funny mate give me 60m and ill sprint round thay pitch for 90 mins doesn't mean I'll do anything of note haha Clockwork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 So Sterling, Aubayemang, Gordon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kong said: How many seasons did auba spend at arsenal? How many seasons did he spend at arsenal being over 30 and how were they? Understand what happens when someone turns 30 or gets old? They decline? They lose speed, they lose agility, they lose athleticism. Do you understand what happens when that happens? It does not matter whatever shit he did in BVB or arsenal in his hay days. We are not getting THAT player. Please try and understand this very simple logic manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said: So Sterling, Aubayemang, Gordon? Mount benched? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: How many seasons did he spend at arsenal being over 30 and how were they? Understand what happens when someone turns 30 or gets old? They decline? They lose speed, they lose agility, they lose athleticism. Do you understand what happens when that happens? It does not matter whatever shit he did in BVB or arsenal in his hay days. We are not getting THAT player. Please try and understand this very simple logic Who mentioned BVB I asked how many seasons he was at arsenal, still didn't answer my actual question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: Mount benched? Does he not deserve to be? Vesper and guddy69 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Does he not deserve to be? No not at all!! Player of the season 2 years running a few bad games doesn't warrant dropping him. Edited August 25, 2022 by Kong Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Does he not deserve to be? I would have to say a resounding no. Kai is the one that really needs to be taken off the firing line. And gordon is no where near the level of mount. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kong said: Who mentioned BVB I asked how many seasons he was at arsenal, still didn't answer my actual question? 4 and he was crap for 1.5 years. Latter 1.5 years. The 1.5 years post 30. Hope I answered your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Mase has been nonexistent in these first 3 matches for the most part. Like any Chelsea player he shouldn’t be guaranteed a starting place. It would definitely be his place in the team that is most under threat by Gordon if he joins. Sterling is starting every match he’s fit and you don’t buy a 33 year old striker to sit on the bench. As for De Jong’s agent again being in London, it has been pointed out several times from what I’ve seen that Man United have operations based in central London. So no guarantee at all it has something to do with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 United sign Antony and De Jong they finish above us. Quote me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: 4 and he was crap for 1.5 years. Latter 1.5 years. The 1.5 years post 30. Hope I answered your question. So he was good for 2.5 bad for 1.5 after a fall out with the manager. I'm over 30 34 infact and I didnt turn 30 and in my birthday forget how to run or kick a ball he's 33. Long gone are the days where a 30 year old player is passed it. I see your points in some cases but silva is 37 and playing CB in a back 3. The fitness levels of these players in the modern game is phenomenal, if 18m is the price I just cannot see how this is a bad deal? You clearly don't like auba that's your choice but for 18m for a proven goal scorer gotta be worth a punt. If am wrong then I'll hold my hands up but seriously now without attitude! Who can we seriously get that isn't as much as a risk? Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: United sign De Jong they finish above us. Quote me. Fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: Mase has been nonexistent in these first 3 matches for the most part. Like any Chelsea player he shouldn’t be guaranteed a starting place. It would definitely be his place in the team that is most under threat by Gordon if he joins. Sterling is starting every match he’s fit and you don’t buy a 33 year old striker to sit on the bench. As for De Jong’s agent again being in London, it has been pointed out several times from what I’ve seen that Man United have operations based in central London. So no guarantee at all it has something to do with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Kong said: So he was good for 2.5 bad for 1.5 after a fall out with the manager. I'm over 30 34 infact and I didnt turn 30 and in my birthday forget how to run or kick a ball he's 33. Long gone are the days where a 30 year old player is passed it. I see your points in some cases but silva is 37 and playing CB in a back 3. The fitness levels of these players in the modern game is phenomenal, if 18m is the price I just cannot see how this is a bad deal? You clearly don't like auba that's your choice but for 18m for a proven goal scorer gotta be worth a punt. If am wrong then I'll hold my hands up but seriously now without attitude! Who can we seriously get that isn't as much as a risk? 😂😂😂😂 Sure buddy. Whatever you say. Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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