Chelsea Transfers

[ZAPHOD2319 4,942]

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

45 minutes ago, Strike said:

But he's not even close to Cucurella's level and 40m + for someone [Anthony Gordon] who presses well and has never played wingback before is bad business.

 

At some point in yesterday's game I came to what I'm sure will be a controversial opinion. We have many higher priorities now but, once we've worked our way through all of those in a season or so, we are going to need a left back/left wing back. For now, I don't rule out that Ben will be re-designated the starter within a few weeks.

Edited August 15, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[lucio 5,418]

£50m loool his value is like £10m per goal 

[Pizy 19,250]

We’re going to get clowned and laughed at by the entire football world, fans and pundits alike, if we spunk even £40m on Gordon, never mind £50m.

So Tuchel better be damned sure he’s going to be a top class player. This is the sort of money you spend on an established PL player who has a couple of seasons of great football. This kid has shown flashes of class but is still raw.

[King Kante 1,643]

39 minutes ago, Strike said:

But he's not even close to Cucurella's level and 40m + for someone who presses well and has never played wingback before is bad business.

 

Gordon's fee is £20m for his actual ability as of now and £20m+ for his potential as a young player plus English tax.

As @Costa19says, I am struggling to see how people can't see why we are after him. TT imo, is looking at our best teams (those from the 70's and 00's) and noting that both had high aggression, directness and intensity. Gordon does fit that mould, whereas Ziyech, Werner and Puli don't. 

As for the transfer itself, £50m seems too much as I am not certain he is that great. However, style wise I understand it. 

[Beigl 1,387]

8 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

At some point in yesterday's game I came to what I'm sure will be a controversial opinion. We have many higher priorities now but, once we've worked our way through all of those in a season or so, we are going to need a left back/left wing back. For now, I don't rule out that Ben will be re-designated the starter within a few weeks.

Interesting take, as I thought Cucurella had a good game and is a clear upgrade on Chilwell, especially in general play. Why do you don´t rate Cucurella that highly as of now? 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

18 minutes ago, Beigl said:

Interesting take, as I thought Cucurella had a good game and is a clear upgrade on Chilwell, especially in general play. Why do you don´t rate Cucurella that highly as of now? 

First, I said all along I wanted an upgrade to Chilly, not a backup to him, so I was happy to see the club targeting a top level  LB/LWB.

What do I have against Cucurella? His one footedness irritates me. I knew it would happen but between him and Anthony Taylor, yesterday was all I could take. Cucu will do until we find a player who does everything our new boy can PLUS use his weaker foot more confidently. I think we are going to have a sewsaw situation where the coach will switch between the two LWB's looking for something that neither can quite give him.

Edited August 15, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[Pizy 19,250]

Thinking about it more, now I’m actually worried that the sudden Anthony Gordon interest is because Fofana is a no-go. That Reece will become the RCB full time and Gordon is being bought as our new starting RWB.

😣😣😣

[DDA 10,204]

7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Thinking about it more, now I’m actually worried that the sudden Anthony Gordon interest is because Fofana is a no-go. That Reece will become the RCB full time and Gordon is being bought as our new starting RWB.

😣😣😣

That's exactly what's happening.

I really don't know what to think about this. 50m for Anthony Gordon?? The same ad Halaand!! Let that sink in.

Fucking weird.

[Costa19 858]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

But he's not even close to Cucurella's level and 40m + for someone who presses well and has never played wingback before is bad business.

 

I never said it's good business nor that the fee is right. Just that his profile fits the kind of football TT wants to play.

[Beigl 1,387]

23 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

First, I said all along I wanted an upgrade to Chilly, not a backup to him, so I was happy to see the club targeting a top level  LB/LWB.

What do I have against Cucurella? His one footedness irritates me. I knew it would happen but between him and Anthony Taylor, yesterday was all I could take. Cucu will do until we find a player who does everything our new boy can PLUS use his weaker foot more confidently. I think we are going to have a sewsaw situation where the coach will switch between the two LWB's looking for something that neither can quite give him.

This one got on my nerves too, actually bothered me really with A. Cole years ago too. I will always fail to understand how so many (and in some cases even word-class) players are this one-footed, when even a half-decent weaker foot can add a new dimension to ones game. Bad coaching at youth level, I guess.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Beigl

[Mário César 1,475]

anthony gordon is for out right back or wing back?

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

24 minutes ago, Beigl said:

actually bothered me really with A. Cole years ago too

Boy did it! I managed, just, to forgive him because he was arguably the best defender in the world.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

42 minutes ago, Beigl said:

I will always fail to understand how so many (and in some cases even word-class) players are this one-footed, when even a half-decent weaker foot can add a new dimension to ones game.

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42 minutes ago, Beigl said:

Bad coaching at youth level [is to blame for one footed professional footballers], I guess.

Different topic but I question the way academies are used to give apprentice coaches their first look at a coaching job. I know young coaches need to start somewhere but at elite academy level we should be employing specialist 'teachers'. Instead of the kids being coached by people who are themselves learning their trade, they should benefit from working with experienced men and women who are world class teachers.

P.S. I taught myself to use my left foot in the school playground simply by deciding that I wasn't going to use my right at all. From memory it only took about a week. I think I was probably eight when I did this and I'm sure that I learned so quickly, and so well, because of the age at which I did this. From then until the end of my playing days, anything I could do with my right foot I could also do with my left. Except for dribbling. 

Edited August 15, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[Pizy 19,250]

Please don’t let us panic and pay anywhere near this in the end. 

[Marvin123 541]

.@RJPJournalism reports that Chelsea’s bid for Anthony Gordon is £25m plus a lot of add-ons to bring it up to £42m.

 

Players from Chelsea to Everton could be involved in separate deals, possibly Michy Batshuayi. 

 

More on Gordon on @SiandDanTalkCFC here: 

 

https://t.co/RuE0bYBjpR

[Superblue 6,372]

6 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

P.S. I taught myself to use my left foot in the school playground simply by deciding that I wasn't going to use my right at all. From memory it only took about a week. I think I was probably eight when I did this and I'm sure that I learned so quickly, and so well, because of the age at which I did this. From then until the end of my playing days, anything I could do with my right foot I could also do with my left. Except for dribbling. 

I did very similar, decided from a fairly young age that I wanted to be comfortable with both feet and taught myself at home literally kicking a ball against a wall. It wasn't something that was encouraged or coached into me which I've always found baffling. Probably the only thing I could never quite get was that my left foot was always that little more stronger for brute force or power if say, shooting from distance, but everything else I was just as comfortable on my right foot.

My boy is 8 years old and just really getting into football in the last 6-12 months and due to join a local team when they start back up later this month. However he is coached by them is their prerogative but when he's at the park or in the garden kicking a football around with me he's made to use both feet, and he's been made fully aware the quicker he becomes comfortable using both feet, he'll be a significantly better and more useful player as a result.