Chelsea Transfers

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~1000x times lewa over ronaldo 

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Broja put of the squad for usa tour 

Wtf? We will go sell him???

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

Broja will join next week

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I prefer get lewa for 50m than ronaldo for 15

[Blue Armour 4,324]

1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

I think it was to be expected this year with everything that has gone on & our new owner with little to no football knowledge trying to broker deals.

I'd normally say the winter window won't be a big deal, but with a WC happening just before it, it could turn out to be more packed than this window, so we have to have a DoF in place as soon as possible. 

I don't think it was expected that Marina, Cech & Co. would up and go at the start of the transfer window.

Their departure might be a beneficial move long term, but if it somehow impacts our transfer window and a top 4 finish this year, then we're going to feel the burn for a lot longer than that.

[Tomo 21,733]

5 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

I don't think it was expected that Marina, Cech & Co. would up and go at the start of the transfer window.

Their departure might be a beneficial move long term, but if it somehow impacts our transfer window and a top 4 finish this year, then we're going to feel the burn for a lot longer than that.

I'm not worried about top 4 in the slightest. Tuchel is too good a coach to fail at that.

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17 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I'm not worried about top 4 in the slightest. Tuchel is too good a coach to fail at that.

Hope so too..., but still feel he needs at least a decent back line to work with.

Let's see.

[Superblue 6,372]

For me I'd be against Lewandowski for the same reasons I'd be against Ronaldo.

Whilst it was far from perfect, in Tuchel's first 6 months he didn't just make us solid but we were playing some really effective football, it just wasn't being reflected in score lines. We played Liverpool off the park at Anfield, deserved our wins against City and really should have won by 4 or 5 against Madrid in the semi amongst others.

What we should have done last summer is continue to follow that path but improve the quality of what we had. In buying Lukaku we moved completely away from what brought us that initial success under Tuchel. Lukaku's attitude was wrong, and his ability on the ball hampered us, but his lack of both ability and willingness to press created significantly problems in my opinion last season for being able to win the ball higher up the field and build sustained pressure on opponents. Add to that his price tag and perceived notion of a big player who becomes difficult to drop just adds to the overall issue. 

In my opinion the best three performances last season were at home to Juventus, away to Southampton and away to Madrid. They felt more like the Chelsea from the season before and how Tuchel wanted us to play. Lukaku didn't play in any of them.

I feel adding Ronaldo or Lewandowski to this squad will have some advantages. Let's not forget that Lukaku still finished top scorer last season so someone or some players have to step up and replace those goals and one of the above would certainly fill that spot. But at the age that both are, neither are going to allow us to play with an aggressive pressing game and both have a status that makes it difficult to drop them or utilise them as squad players like the rest of the attack.

As I alluded to, it's a risk because can our attack give us enough goals to win most games and compete for trophies. But I definitely prefer the moves we seem to have been going for in Sterling and possibly Raphinha, as they suggest moving away from the Lukaku experiment and back to a more energetic and fluid attack, but hopefully with a bit more quality and clinical edge in front of goal.

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3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I’m sorry, weren’t you the ones last week that told us to be patient? 

I can't remember what I said 5 minutes ago mate.

[Tomo 21,733]

12 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

In my opinion the best three performances last season were at home to Juventus, away to Southampton and away to Madrid. They felt more like the Chelsea from the season before and how Tuchel wanted us to play. Lukaku didn't play in any of them.

I'd add Burnley at home (despite the result) and Leicester away in that too.

Although (you would think) they wont flop like Lukaku i'm delighted Liverpool and City have forked out hugely on out and out 9's.

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2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I'd add Burnley at home (despite the result) and Leicester away in that too.

Although (you would think) they wont flop like Lukaku i'm delighted Liverpool and City have forked out hugely on out and out 9's.

There might be a couple more but the only game I can really think of where we played well with Lukaku was his debut against Arsenal and they were an absolute shambles at that stage. Even the game at the start of the season at home to Villa where we won 3-0, we got completely played off the park and were far too easy from front to back to play against and in hindsight it was a pre cursor to what would follow.

I know there will be games where it doesn't happen and the usual question marks will come up about having a genuine out and out goal scorer but I'd rather see Tuchel go back towards that. If he wants to evolve us into a 4 atb system or stick to the back 3, that's for him to decide but in my opinion we are currently much better suited to playing with a more fluent attacking unit without necessary a more focal, static point, but with the ability and willingness of all to press together properly as a unit.

Sterling I think fits what Tuchel wants us to become like a glove, and I feel Raphinha does too if we managed to get him. If we could bring those two in, possibly alongside Broja in exchange for Lukaku and Ziyech I'd be delighted with those moves. 

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2 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

I don't think it was expected that Marina, Cech & Co. would up and go at the start of the transfer window.

Their departure might be a beneficial move long term, but if it somehow impacts our transfer window and a top 4 finish this year, then we're going to feel the burn for a lot longer than that.

Did we want those behind the Lukaku deal to remain & cause more damage?

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I hope the club had actually given up on Raphinia. It's a pure disgrace to the club to be basically called second choice worst case scenario in media by agent and player in some teeny-tiny games with Barca, no place for those guys here. And he's hardly an improvement anyway, I'm sick of buying players who are way below Chelsea level and then surprisingly turn out to be way below Chelsea level and and purely financial burden season later.

Edited July 9, 2022 by Vegetable

[Blue Armour 4,324]

1 minute ago, LAM09 said:

Did we want those behind the Lukaku deal to remain & cause more damage?

They had to go at some point.

I'm only questioning the timing. 

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Just now, Blue Armour said:

They had to go at some point.

I'm only questioning the timing. 

A fresh start from the get go was probably the only option. I couldn't see getting rid of them midseason or a year from now being practical.