Chelsea Transfers

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Vesper 29,152]

2 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

It's been barely 2 weeks since the official takeover

a week

the takeover went through last Monday

[Vesper 29,152]

4 hours ago, King Kante said:

Pulisic

had fuckall production for goals scored, even in pinball Bundesliga and despite being on a high scoring side

2019/20 with us was a false dawn

 

[Strike 7,280]

12 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

 

Time for Tuchel to do course correction here as this is one of the things he has ignored so far. Even Chalobah's integration was not a planned one. 

Livramento, Bate, Lamptey, Musiala left in recent years, Guehi, Tomori sold without buybacks. You can't keep them all but there needs to be a policy to integrate the top academy players with the squad.

[Superblue 6,372]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

Time for Tuchel to do course correction here as this is one of the things he has ignored so far. Even Chalobah's integration was not a planned one. 

Livramento, Bate, Lamptey, Musiala left in recent years, Guehi, Tomori sold without buybacks. You can't keep them all but there needs to be a policy to integrate the top academy players with the squad.

I'm not too concerned with the stat. The idea that we're giving a manager credit for throwing a player into a dead rubber game proved pretty meaningless over the years because those players that did get that rub never really amounted to anything. I actually think they were better served being played in the Carabao Cup game in December by Tuchel and he will have seen more from that than an end of season game. I've read that Tuchel has planned to integrate Harvey Vale and give him some minutes a couple of occasions this season and he's ended up falling ill or getting injured.

Ultimately though unless an exceptional talent, a teenager seeing minutes in a Chelsea shirt or any of the top clubs is usually nothing more than a taster. Most of these players will go on to loan spells, etc and develop and gain experience before being in position to actually be a useful, reliable option for the manager. 

Broja is 21 in September and Gallagher is 23 later into next season. They are a bit more seasoned now. There's been talk too that Tuchel wants to look at the likes of Nathan Baxter and Dujon Sterling too in pre season. Again, both comfortably now into their 20's with some good experiences out on loan. I'm more interested to see what Tuchel does with players like these and whether he feels he can integrate them into his squad next season, as opposed to whether he gives 15 minutes here or there to a teenager.

I've said it on multiple occasions, the academy is not going to produce a conveyor belt of players like Reece James and Mason Mount. But what should be produced is players good enough to fill a role in our squad, and then others who aren't quite good enough and/or don't fit in but can command a reasonable transfer fee. In both instances this allows us to concentrate and afford better quality players for our first XI - XV in our squad. 

 

[ulvhedin 508]

Anyone knows what is the current status of Bissouma sex assault charges? 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,900]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

He had 14 goals for Barca in 2018/19, plus 8 assists, in only 2503 minutes

10 for Tuchel and Dortmund in 2016–17, plus 21 assists in 3387 minutes

He did only have two last season, but he also had 13 assists, and that was in only 1943 minutes

when he is healthy he can put together a string of games like this

 

 

 

Someone made a good point yesterday, don't remember who but I'm going to echo it. If Dembele's attitude stinks, and his injury record is a problem, then why are Barca trying so hard to extend him? Ok, it could be argued that they are just trying to re-establish a transfer value and will look to offload him asap but I really don't think they would think in such a contrived way, or take the risk of being saddled with an Injury prone bad apple. No, Barca are offering him a contract because they want him to stay and this implies that they see no problems with the player.

My feeling is that Dembele's agent is just playing everybody off against each other to secure the maximum offer for his client. If the best offer comes from Barca then case closed but if not then the player will chose between staying in Catalonia, which is what I suspect he wants to do, or taking the best offer on the table.

 

Edited June 7, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[Superblue 6,372]

A couple of links this morning with Gabriel Jesus, although they seem to be emanating from Spain. 

[Mário César 1,043]

2 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

A couple of links this morning with Gabriel Jesus, although they seem to be emanating from Spain. 

where?

[Tomo 21,733]

On 05/06/2022 at 23:28, Thor said:

We let Salah go and he turned into a monster. 

 

I get that Pulisic is injured all the time and looks to be hit and miss in front of goal, but it describes Salah early on pretty well as well. Not saying Puli will ever get to that level. 

Salah/KDB is becoming pretty much a cliche every time we are linked with selling a player under 25.

If the board have similar thinking it's going to do us a lot more damage than selling those two ever well.

On 05/06/2022 at 13:32, King Kante said:

Everyone complains that the Dippers are great at making signings and that we always mess the majority of ours up. Dippers then come in with a large offer for one of our players, who is still young, and people want to take it? OK....

Liverpool may be good but they're not invincible, Minamino and Keita case in point.

Furthermore I'm not sure how legit these rumours are purely because it doesn't make sense (it would more likely be a leak to bait us into keeping him). He will probably be third in the pecking order for gametime on the left and even that's assuming Mane is going.

[Superblue 6,372]

40 minutes ago, Mário César said:

where?

 

[lucio 5,418]

Bringing in Dembélé and Jesus would be elite 

[Pizy 18,505]

Again I’ll say that any striker coming in leaves us with a Havertz problem. The entire reason Jesus wants to leave City is because he wants to be the main man who starts every game. Which is why the Arse move makes sense for him.

If he comes here what happens with Kai? Or do we play a new formation with 2 strikers? Havertz is wasted out wide.

[Clockwork 1,794]

5 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Again I’ll say that any striker coming in leaves us with a Havertz problem. The entire reason Jesus wants to leave City is because he wants to be the main man who starts every game. Which is why the Arse move makes sense for him.

If he comes here what happens with Kai? Or do we play a new formation with 2 strikers? Havertz is wasted out wide.

4-2-2-2

Havertz Jesus

Mount Dembele

Jorghino Kante

Chill Silva Kounde James

Mendy

Edited June 7, 2022 by Clockwork

[Clockwork 1,794]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Salah/KDB is becoming pretty much a cliche every time we are linked with selling a player under 25.

If the board have similar thinking it's going to do us a lot more damage than selling those two ever well.

Liverpool may be good but they're not invincible, Minamino and Keita case in point.

Furthermore I'm not sure how legit these rumours are purely because it doesn't make sense (it would more likely be a leak to bait us into keeping him). He will probably be third in the pecking order for gametime on the left and even that's assuming Mane is going.

Pulisic fits Klopp system to a t, Mane and Salah would be nowhere players they are without Klopp. 

[whats happening 1,540]

knowing our luck dembele is getting injured in his first game.

[Mário César 1,043]

1 hour ago, lucio said:

Bringing in Dembélé and Jesus would be elite 

dembele, jesus and sterling would be a massive upgrade to our attack

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

Would a pivot of Bissouma + Kovacic work in a back 4? Mount the CAM?