Chelsea Transfers

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

On 09/03/2021 at 18:19, Azul said:

My brother supports Milan, so I watch most of their games with him. I can tell you that this guy is very very good, and the main reason for that is how complete he is as a midfielder.

First I must admit that I haven't watched him since we were originally linked with him a few seasons ago. At that time however my feeling was that the best of his game was his power. His football finesse seemed lacking to me.

Edited March 10, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie

[milka 3,359]

 

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3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Come next season once teams have figured out how to suss our formation

Its not as simple as that, TT himself said that formations are just formations, its about how you utilize the system and the intensity at display.

[King Kante 1,519]

5 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

😂

I'd love to see you post with this much confidence when we start playing a back 4 again. The system will be found out. It's the very reason why Tuchel isn't strict on one formation.

Come next season once teams have figured out how to suss our formation, Tuchel goes to a back 4 + Silva out injured, will you still optimistic then? We may have won titles with that formation but it wasn't sustainable, as the very next season proved. 

Cahill was 26 and premier league proven. Guehi and Ampadu are 20 and the latter still doesn't have a full premier league season under his belt. Also, you remember the very next season once DiMatteo tried to play progressive football vs protecting our back line? Shambles. 

 

 

Everyone says that we have to change formations. I am not sure. 3atb has been our best formation for our squad since 2016, it is just some managers were to intent to play their way. 

For me, something drastic is going to have to happen to switch to a back four as not only is 3atb the best formation for our squad bar a couple of players, it is also the best players for a lot of our top young boys out on loan (Amapdu, Guehi and Gallagher.) 

Killer, in my opinion, has it right. No need to really change from a 3atb, tweaks will need to happen in due course as people will start to figure certain elements out but we can shift certain aspects of it without having to go to a 4. 

In regard to signings, only things I really want at the moment are a LCB and a CF. Outside of that, we are pretty much fine and just need to sell players (although I do see us getting Donarumma on a free if we get the chance.) 

I mean, in a back 3, we could roll with this squad. 

GK: Mendy, Kepa, GK3 

CB: Silva, AC, LCB, Rudi, Dave 

WB: James, CHO, Alonso, Chilwell 

CM: Kova, Kante, Jorgi, Billy/Gallagher 

AM: Harvetz, Mount, Puli, Ziyech

CF: CF, Werner, Giroud(?) 

People will cry about Alonso still knocking about, but I want to know who we are getting that is better to play LWB2? Please note LWB and not LB.

Sure people can name some, but unless it is Alaba (who would be the LCB who can double up as a LWB, I am not seeing anyone realistic.) However, I think Alabais almost certain to go to Spain.

The real key is CF. Get Håland, with the way we are now controlling games and not giving people chances and that is a incredibly difficult team to break down. Personally, I would also be content with DCL as he has turned into a very good PL CF. 

At most, if you really want to play football manager, you could sell Jorgi and try and get SMS to add a bit more strength and height to the CM position. 

As I have said elsewhere, playing as we are atm and thinking of switching to a back 4 is lunacy, as not only are you messing with what has been established as our best formation. You also need to go on another massive buying/selling spree to get it right. 

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

36 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Everyone says that we have to change formations. I am not sure. 3atb has been our best formation for our squad since 2016, it is just some managers were to intent to play their way. 

For me, something drastic is going to have to happen to switch to a back four as not only is 3atb the best formation for our squad bar a couple of players, it is also the best players for a lot of our top young boys out on loan (Amapdu, Guehi and Gallagher.) 

Killer, in my opinion, has it right. No need to really change from a 3atb, tweaks will need to happen in due course as people will start to figure certain elements out but we can shift certain aspects of it without having to go to a 4. 

In regard to signings, only things I really want at the moment are a LCB and a CF. Outside of that, we are pretty much fine and just need to sell players (although I do see us getting Donarumma on a free if we get the chance.) 

I mean, in a back 3, we could roll with this squad. 

GK: Mendy, Kepa, GK3 

CB: Silva, AC, LCB, Rudi, Dave 

WB: James, CHO, Alonso, Chilwell 

CM: Kova, Kante, Jorgi, Billy/Gallagher 

AM: Harvetz, Mount, Puli, Ziyech

CF: CF, Werner, Giroud(?) 

People will cry about Alonso still knocking about, but I want to know who we are getting that is better to play LWB2? Please note LWB and not LB.

Sure people can name some, but unless it is Alaba (who would be the LCB who can double up as a LWB, I am not seeing anyone realistic.) However, I think Alabais almost certain to go to Spain.

The real key is CF. Get Håland, with the way we are now controlling games and not giving people chances and that is a incredibly difficult team to break down. Personally, I would also be content with DCL as he has turned into a very good PL CF. 

At most, if you really want to play football manager, you could sell Jorgi and try and get SMS to add a bit more strength and height to the CM position. 

As I have said elsewhere, playing as we are atm and thinking of switching to a back 4 is lunacy, as not only are you messing with what has been established as our best formation. You also need to go on another massive buying/selling spree to get it right. 

 

So essentially 7 attackers for 3 positions? You think that's going to be sustainable? I don't see the 3 at the back becoming permanent. Tuchel in my opinion is merely building the foundation considering his job is currently dependent on Top 4. We secure that, he can build on for what he wants, which is being a flexible/tactical manager. Say for example our backline going into next season is James/Silva/Konate/Chilwell and protecting them is a solid DM. I don't see any need to continue with a back 3 unless we are looking for absolute control. 

 

[King Kante 1,519]

35 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

So essentially 7 attackers for 3 positions? You think that's going to be sustainable? I don't see the 3 at the back becoming permanent. Tuchel in my opinion is merely building the foundation considering his job is currently dependent on Top 4. We secure that, he can build on for what he wants, which is being a flexible/tactical manager. Say for example our backline going into next season is James/Silva/Konate/Chilwell and protecting them is a solid DM. I don't see any need to continue with a back 3 unless we are looking for absolute control. 

 

Well Giroud is very 50/50. You could let him leave then it is six/seven depending on how CHO is deployed. 

However, again as you indicate, we switch to a 4, we are needing more players for certain as you got to add a DMF. Plus, as much as I have liked what I have seen from my limited experience of watching Konate, what is the purpose of buying a very injury prone CB, and displacing AC if he continues as he is? 

Further, why would anyone give up control? It is lunacy. I know TT is flexible but there is no need to start making changes for the sake of it. 

Like I said and will maintain, unless everything goes to pot, we aren't and shouldn't be considering a switch away from 3atb. 

[nyikolajevics 2,601]

8 hours ago, Jason said:

You're not wrong but one slight difference though, Cahill at least already had years of experience in the Premier League when we signed him. Guehi doesn't have it yet while Ampadu only has a bit of it.

 

8 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Cahill was 26 and premier league proven. Guehi and Ampadu are 20 and the latter still doesn't have a full premier league season under his belt. Also, you remember the very next season once DiMatteo tried to play progressive football vs protecting our back line? Shambles. 

 

 

Ofc, I am not saying situation is 100% same, just that a defender playing for a shity club which concedes many goals doesn’t mean they can’t be Chelsea level.

 

However, we can also take Mount or CHO as examples. Mason had only played for Vitesse and Derby before Chelsea but made instant impact. Callum is one of our most influental player right now without ever sent out on loan

If TT sees fantasy in either Ampadu or Guehi(or any other youngster in our bound) I think he can build them in slowly. 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, nyikolajevics said:

Ofc, I am not saying situation is 100% same, just that a defender playing for a shity club which concedes many goals doesn’t mean they can’t be Chelsea level.

However, we can also take Mount or CHO as examples. Mason had only played for Vitesse and Derby before Chelsea but made instant impact. Callum is one of our most influental player right now without ever sent out on loan

If TT sees fantasy in either Ampadu or Guehi(or any other youngster in our bound) I think he can build them in slowly. 

Putting an inexperienced player in defence is far riskier than playing one in attacking positions. All for bedding Ampadu, Guehi etc in but think we need a ready made defender, assuming we are going for one in the summer.

[OneMoSalah 8,807]

Cannot believe people are comparing Cahill to Ampadu and Guehi in a sort of way of saying oh they can play for Chelsea if he could. 

Cahill had played in the English NT 7 times before we got him in a period where there were genuinely good CBs. He had been long linked with a move for before that season even kicked off, to Arsenal and Spurs before we got him in the January, so its clear the quality was there. Plus his age, his experience, being on the tip of being a regular for the NT.... 

Guehi and Ampadu are good prospects - dont tell me Ampadu plays for Wales and that is proof he is ready for a top 4 club - but they need to grow a bit still, and a PL loan for Guehi is the next step inevitably. Ampadu I have no clue, but another loan likely. 

Edited March 10, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[milka 3,359]

Chelsea signed Pulisic which made Hudson-Odoi want to join Bayern, and now Chelsea want to buy Coman from Bayern to replace Pulisic who's pushing for an exit because he's not starting ahead of Hudson-Odoi... 

 Football rumours are crazy . 😂

Edited March 11, 2021 by milka

[Blues Forever 1,232]

7 minutes ago, milka said:

Chelsea signed Pulisic which made Hudson-Odoi want to join Bayern, and now Chelsea want to buy Coman from Bayern to replace Pulisic who's pushing for an exit because he's not starting ahead of Hudson-Odoi... 

 Football rumours are crazy . 😂

Another injury prone player.

[Vesper 29,141]

16 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Another injury prone player.

yes

[Jase 43,479]

29 minutes ago, milka said:

Chelsea signed Pulisic which made Hudson-Odoi want to join Bayern, and now Chelsea want to buy Coman from Bayern to replace Pulisic who's pushing for an exit because he's not starting ahead of Hudson-Odoi... 

 Football rumours are crazy . 😂

I know these are just rumors and they may be BS but assuming they're not, what's up with us wanting players who has a problematic injury record? Sule, Gimenez, Coman etc.

And if we want to sell the attacking players, we should be trimming down the numbers a little and not adding more to it or keeping the same amount of players. 

[Vesper 29,141]

https://sempremilan.com/reports-bayern-munich-defender-set-to-leave-on-a-free-milan-could-rival-Chelsea-for-him

Jerome Boateng appears set to leave Bayern Munich in the summer transfer window and Serie A could be a potential destination, a report claims.

According to the German newspaper Bild (via MilanLive), Boateng has two possibilities in front of him regarding his future. One is a move to the Premier League – with Chelsea in pole position to land him – and the other is Serie A.

The MilanLive report goes on to add that the Germany international ‘could represent a great opportunity for Milan’ given that his contract is set to expire and he does not seem willing to renew, meaning he could leave Germany on a free transfer.

The 32-year-old has both quality and experience which could be useful for a Rossoneri rearguard which lacks the presence of players who have played at the highest level – the Champions League.

Should Milan qualify for the next Champions League , Boateng ‘could represent the right reinforcement’ and it is possible that Paolo Maldini is already giving it some thought, especially seeing how he is apparently pursuing Florian Thauvin and Otavio on free transfers too.

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

Just noticed that Coman only has 2 years left on his Bayern contract. Another one of those classic ploy of using other clubs to get a better contract..?

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

On 10/03/2021 at 14:59, King Kante said:

Well Giroud is very 50/50. You could let him leave then it is six/seven depending on how CHO is deployed. 

However, again as you indicate, we switch to a 4, we are needing more players for certain as you got to add a DMF. Plus, as much as I have liked what I have seen from my limited experience of watching Konate, what is the purpose of buying a very injury prone CB, and displacing AC if he continues as he is? 

Further, why would anyone give up control? It is lunacy. I know TT is flexible but there is no need to start making changes for the sake of it. 

Like I said and will maintain, unless everything goes to pot, we aren't and shouldn't be considering a switch away from 3atb. 

No way we let go of both Giroud and Tammy without bringing a CF in. So at the very least, it's 6. CHO looked great at LW against Everton also, so he is still going to be considered an option there. That is still 7 players for 3 spots. Sustainable? No way. The dressing room will be chaotic. 

Konate has had two lengthy spells both from the same hip injury. A year off of football rehabilitating, he hasn't had any issue. He was only out this season due to an ankle sprain. This isn't Pulisic we are talking about where he is getting injuries left and right from all different muscular imbalances. He's worth the risk, IMO. He wouldn't be displacing Christensen, he'd be displacing Zouma. 

It's not about giving up control, its about controlling the game whilst still getting the best out of our attackers, which this current system doesn't do. I'm not saying making changes now, I'm all for sticking with it to secure Top 4, go far in Europe and potentially win the FA Cup because it A, works, and B, it is still progressive football. My point is that as tactically flexible as Tuchel is, he definitely wants to experiment with other formations that get the best out of his attackers, as he has done so in the past. Rudiger/Zouma/Christensen are not top tier defenders for a back 4. 

 

[Jase 43,479]

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