Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 30,224]

9 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I think him being English and well used to the rigors and grind of the PL play a big part. We really have to get our defensive signings right this summer. Perhaps Frank and the club view Chilwell as less of a risk since he has played in this league for years? Who knows. Maybe they just think Chilwell has the higher ceiling.

I'm going to reserve judgement until I see him play for us a few times. The price isn't nearly as crazy or ridiculous as it looked like it would be. If it's £50m that's the same thing City paid for each of Walker and Mendy. Cancelo was even more. AWB cost £50m to United and he's nearly useless going forward. I think it's a fair enough price for Chilwell when you consider his contract length, age, nationality, and the fact that Leicester are a rival for top 4.

I have seen no solid evidence that his price has been lowered by £30m or so.

I do not think that Ben is shit at all, but I am truly worried that his insane price will fuck us up going after other also needed players.

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

Not sure if it is valid to count for two seasons but if we count 19/20 season and 20/21 (for now) we are around +100m in net spend on transfers. This is with Ziyech and Werner.

Also if reports are true we will pay now 65m pounds for Havertz and 45-50m for Chilwell. Bonuses and add ones come in next years... And we get Silva for free I hope.

So if we add Boga money and loan fees we are even with them close to zero. And we still need to sell Michy, Emerson, Bakayoko, Barkley and others... So this could be another 100m to spend on Rice, Oblak?

And if Rice is coming I imagine Jorginho would be sold to Roma? 

So I think after Ziyech, Werner, Chilwell, Havertz and Silva we are still not finished with buying new players. If we sell all the deadwood we can easily buy two new players.

[Rapkun 668]

4 hours ago, Tomo said:

 

I watch plenty of Ligue 1. He's still the best CB in the league. He's fast enough to play in a high line despite his age but I would have one of Zouma/Rudiger/Tomori playing next to him and do the running if possible. PSG have the ball at all times so his runs over there are limited. Things will be different in the PL IMO. I don't think I need to go into the other aspects of his game. Unless his body can't keep up anymore which isn't the case at the moment, he's very much world class. He will be a big loss for them.

If he signs here, I'm really hoping Tomori stays. He would learn so much playing next to him.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

How much would Pope cost?

 

[Valdo 583]

How much would Pope cost?
 

And I qoute :

„The net worth of Papa Francisco has always been in discussion as the numbers are low for a Pope. His worth is estimated to be around $25 to $28 million. This number varies with different estimations. Moreover, Pope Francis holds control of various assets in the Vatican. These assets do not add up to his net worth."

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[Strike 7,492]

4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Not sure if it is valid to count for two seasons but if we count 19/20 season and 20/21 (for now) we are around +100m in net spend on transfers. This is with Ziyech and Werner.

Also if reports are true we will pay now 65m pounds for Havertz and 45-50m for Chilwell. Bonuses and add ones come in next years... And we get Silva for free I hope.

So if we add Boga money and loan fees we are even with them close to zero. And we still need to sell Michy, Emerson, Bakayoko, Barkley and others... So this could be another 100m to spend on Rice, Oblak?

And if Rice is coming I imagine Jorginho would be sold to Roma? 

So I think after Ziyech, Werner, Chilwell, Havertz and Silva we are still not finished with buying new players. If we sell all the deadwood we can easily buy two new players.

I think any deal for T Silva will be an indication whether Rice is coming or not this summer because he is marked as the centre-back target

[BlueLyon 9,359]

50 minutes ago, Valdo said:

And I qoute :

„The net worth of Papa Francisco has always been in discussion as the numbers are low for a Pope. His worth is estimated to be around $25 to $28 million. This number varies with different estimations. Moreover, Pope Francis holds control of various assets in the Vatican. These assets do not add up to his net worth."

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Edit: Pope is 28 already?? Wow I thought he was 24 or something...

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

Please tell me this is not true...

Chelsea are in advanced talks with Paris St-Germain captain Thiago Silva, with the 35-year-old Brazil defender set to leave on a free transfer after Sunday's Champions League final against Bayern Munich. (The Athletic - subscription required

[Strike 7,492]

3 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said:

Please tell me this is not true...

Chelsea are in advanced talks with Paris St-Germain captain Thiago Silva, with the 35-year-old Brazil defender set to leave on a free transfer after Sunday's Champions League final against Bayern Munich. (The Athletic - subscription required

Agent offered him to Chelsea. Decision next week after Sunday's final

[Strike 7,492]

Is Alaba leaving? If he is, then he should be the centre-back target. (I'm sure we don't have a big chance of landing him but we should throw our hat into the mix)

[Jype 6,398]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Is Alaba leaving? If he is, then he should be the centre-back target. (I'm sure we don't have a big chance of landing him but we should throw our hat into the mix)

Again like has been stated many times even if Alaba is leaving he's a really, really expensive option. Getting him would take a €30-35M transfer fee and wages of €300-400K/wk on a 3-4 year contract. That's roughly a €100M total investment with zero resale value in a few years. Alaba at the moment is a world class player and would improve the team a lot but the only way a signing like that would make any sense if he's the key piece in the puzzle between finishing top4 and a league title, which I'm not that convinced he would be because the rest of the team is not ready for that just yet. So Alaba is neither a realistic target financially nor does he fit the profile of the players the club are mainly targeting (potentially top class players aged 21-24).

Thiago Silva, if signed, will only be considered a short-term fix on reasonable money. Fiorentina offered him a two-year deal at £70K/wk and he came close to accepting that before Chelsea started negotiations so one would assume he wouldn't be getting crazy wages at Chelsea either. Still probably more than Fiorentina are willing to pay (especially if the club only offer him a 1y deal) but nothing out of the ordinary.

It's clear the club have decided to try getting Thiago Silva because he's a cheap stop-gap before going back in for the likes of Declan Rice later. The budget is not unlimited so after Werner, Ziyech, Chillwell and probably Havertz some positions need to be filled with cheaper players and I for one would much rather sign Silva on a free and save up all the money for priority targets next year than settle for some mediocre £20-30M signing now. The club made that mistake with the likes of Drinky and Zappacosta a few years ago and are still suffering for it. 

Nobody knows if Silva at 36 will be good enough for the PL, especially given the intense fixture scheduling, but at least he's a great team leader and can still have a big influence in the dressing room even if his level has dropped a little bit from his best days. So at the very least he should be a good example to the current CBs and maybe they could learn a thing or two from him. And who knows, maybe he will still be a great player for at least a year. On a free transfer and reasonable wages the risk is really low, if it doesn't work out he will walk away when the contract is up and if he can still do a job at a level that improves the team then great. 

[milka 3,393]

 

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

The thing I love about the Silva moaning is that if he goes out and has a masterclass tonight, everyone's tune changes tomorrow morning

[Liuxas 125]

If we sign all three of them next week. Silva, Havertz and Chilwell. I hope next target will be Janx Oblak

[King Kante 1,643]

6 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

How much would Pope cost?

 

I see Pope getting mentioned a lot, however I think it is more hassle than it is worth. I mean seriously, does anyone think having him in a changing room with so many young men is a good idea? 

[King Kante 1,643]

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4 minutes ago, Liuxas said:

If we sign all three of them next week. Silva, Havertz and Chilwell. I hope next target will be Janx Oblak

Oblak is virtually impossible. As Vesper has pointed out if he signed a four/five year deal and we couldn't shift Kepa, then we are looking at close to half a Bill on GK's alone. That is madness. 

[Puliiszola 519]

3 minutes ago, Liuxas said:

If we sign all three of them next week. Silva, Havertz and Chilwell. I hope next target will be Janx Oblak

Don't think he is possible. The fee (120m€) + wages (350kpw) make it impossible for us to buy him. Specially when we already have an expensive GK on our books.

[Superblue 6,372]

I think signing Silva would be a sensible move.

Firstly we seem to be focusing purely on first choice targets and no longer settling for something else. So if an area such as centre back therefore needs to be addressed in the next summer then fine. I'd rather we be bringing in first choice targets that also the manager is in total agreement over, then spreading budgets out thinner to try and get more players that may not make as big an improvement on what we already have. As a result, if Silva is an option on a free transfer with realistic wage demands then it all seems to make sense.

We don't know how he will fare in the Premier League and I highly doubt he'd be capable of playing game in game out anyway, particularly in a condensed season like next one.

But the experience and mentality he could bring to the team could prove to be invaluable.

It shouldn't be forgotten that we've lost Pedro and Willian this summer, and there are now very few players left in our squad who have regular experience of winning titles and trophies. You still need the balance within the squad and we have to be careful that we don't end up 'too young' in the makeup of our squad.

There are two big examples in our last two title winning seasons of big players and personalities having an influence behind the scenes. Drogba in 2015 and Terry in 2017. Neither played big roles in the team but would have been huge in the dressing room and in training to ensure standards were always maintained and calm, experienced heads were around in difficult moments. 

A number of our squad in their early 20's will have grown up through their teens seeing Thiago Silva as one of, if not the very best centre back, at the time. I think having a player of that ilk around the younger players, and who although in the twilight of his career has still shown he's more than capable of playing at the highest level, would be a phenomenal boost. 

You don't always need a leader like John Terry, leading by example wearing his heart on his sleeve. Silva is much more in the mould of Desailly where his timing, anticipation and positional awareness has always been impeccable and he'll be looking to constantly educate the other defensive players around him, both in game and in training.

Perhaps the biggest question if Silva were to join is which centre back would leave. The likelihood would be Tomori out on loan but I feel he would be the best to benefit from Silva's presence in the squad.

[BXL70 396]

OK, but he will be 36 in September... 

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

1 minute ago, BXL70 said:

OK, but he will be 36 in September... 

Whats your point? He will still be better than all our CBs combined and he's free.....