Rapkun 668 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I like the idea of Thiago for a year or two. On top of being an amazing player, he's also an excellent mentor for young players. This squad needs some more leadership and experience at the high level. We're probably going to have to offload one of our current CBs though. blu35_army, Vesper and oldportblue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I’m all for the thiago silva signing as well but having said that, let’s see how he fares on sunday... if he gets absolutely roasted for several goals, maybe i’ll rethink that lolSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 In terms of outgoing centrebacks, I would rather sell Christensen/Rudiger/Zouma depending on the market for them before considering sending out Tomori. ulsterchelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 What do guys think of ampadu? Honestly think he is good enough to play for us. With how Rudi and AC have performed, I would sell them both and get Thiago Silva and Ampadu in the squad. Tomori and Ampadu would learn so much from silva in the 1-2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Vesper said: he want 10m euros a year £175K PW I cannot see us dumping €20m on him (2 years) 20m euros for 2 years is nothing. Dunk is rumored at 40m pounds and lets say 80-100kpw wages. Thats 8m a year (amortized) + 4/5 mil a year wages for the next 5 years after which the re-sale value will be 0. That too for a player who barely improves us, can hardly teach a thing or 2 to the likes of ampadu, Andreas, tomori. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 6 hours ago, oldportblue said: I’m all for the thiago silva signing as well but having said that, let’s see how he fares on sunday... if he gets absolutely roasted for several goals, maybe i’ll rethink that lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I get what you are saying but this place has been crying out all season for leadership. Game after game we kept hearing "Someone fucking organise" Can Silva come in and be worse than any of our CB's? No way, Rudiger mostly for me has been horrific, he would be benched straight off and Silva straight in. Not only this but he can be absolute golden behind the scenes and I'm a big believer in dressing room leaders too, and that doesn't have to mean he plays all the time. BlueLyon, killer1257 and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Puliiszola said: What do guys think of ampadu? Honestly think he is good enough to play for us. With how Rudi and AC have performed, I would sell them both and get Thiago Silva and Ampadu in the squad. Tomori and Ampadu would learn so much from silva in the 1-2 years. Depends whether we bring new players into these positions, but if I was Ampadu I would strongly consider staying and fighting for my place. I think his versatility to play two positions that are problems for us currently is quite intriguing and he should back himself to get game time. None of the centre backs currently at the club are guaranteed their place in the team and in some cases are on thin ice. But I think the holding midfield position could be what he eyes up in all honesty. He's still raw there but he is a much more solid defensive option than the likes of Jorginho which seems to be what Lampard wants. If the stars aligned he could find himself the primary backup option to Kante and Kante already has doubts now over his long term fitness. Puliiszola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If Chilwell plays bad, I hope Ashley Cole loses his job as a scout for usGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, killer1257 said: If Chilwell plays bad, I hope Ashley Cole loses his job as a scout for us Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Cole is working as the academy coach. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,621 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 so chillwell plays on the left and then who will play on the right? im really curios what will lampard do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Cole is working as the academy coach.Still probably advises Chelsea for LB targets. He is a huge Chilwell fan. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Just now, killer1257 said: Still probably advises Chelsea for LB targets. He is a huge Chilwell fan. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk We don't know that, do we? Wasn't Cole asked about Chilwell in a media interview or something? If so, he wasn't going to say he's shit or things like that in the public, is he? Moreover, Cole can give his opinion but he's not the one making the final decision to go sign him. So any potential anger directed at Cole here is kinda silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 We don't know that, do we? Wasn't Cole asked about Chilwell in a media interview or something? If so, he wasn't going to say he's shit or things like that in the public, is he? Moreover, Cole can give his opinion but he's not the one making the final decision to go sign him. So any potential anger directed at Cole here is kinda silly. There must be scouts working for us making the analysis of transfer targets. Every big club has those analysts.The guy that made the analysis of Kepa and advising Chelsea to buy him needs to be fired and if Chilwell is the next record flop player, the scout that advised Lampard to sign him needs sacking too. Ashley Cole said that he would love to see Ben Chilwell at Chelsea. If AC did not rate Ben, he could have said that he likes him, but he still needs to improve couple of things. Nothing wrong with fair criticism. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, killer1257 said: There must be scouts working for us making the analysis of transfer targets. Every big club has those analysts. The guy that made the analysis of Kepa and advising Chelsea to buy him needs to be fired and if Chilwell is the next record flop player, the scout that advised Lampard to sign him needs sacking too. Obviously but every player has weaknesses - and strengths - and am sure Lampard sees somethings in Chilwell that he likes and can improve on. Do think Lampard already has his eyes set on Chilwell early on, any scouting stuff would likely just be used to back him up. 8 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Ashley Cole said that he would love to see Ben Chilwell at Chelsea. He did but so? He's still not the one making the final decision. 9 minutes ago, killer1257 said: If AC did not rate Ben, he could have said that he likes him, but he still needs to improve couple of things. Nothing wrong with fair criticism. That is what you want to hear and not what should be said in the public, is it? No manager is crazy enough to criticize a player in the public - fair or not - that he wants to buy. Cole is obviously not the manager but he is part of the club's coaching staff and needs to be careful with what he says. Different case if he's just working as a media pundit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 From the Guardian Quote Chelsea are closing in on the signing of Kai Havertz after holding further talks with Bayer Leverkusen over a fee for the winger. Havertz is intent on joining Stamford Bridge this summer and belief is growing that Chelsea will be able to reach an agreement with Leverkusen. It is understood negotiations between the two clubs are moving at an encouraging pace. Chelsea’s initial offer of €65m (£58.6m) plus €15m in add-ons earlier this week was not enough to satisfy Leverkusen, who are holding out for as much as €100m. However, it is understood that the Stamford Bridge club, who are hoping to sweeten the deal with lucrative add-ons and bonuses, moved closer to the Bundesliga side’s valuation during a productive meeting on Wednesday Havertz is one of the best young talents in Europe and signing the 21-year-old would represent a coup for Chelsea, who have already strengthened their attack with the signings of Timo Werner and Hakim Ziyech. Bayern Munich and Real Madrid have courted the Germany international but are unable to afford him this summer. Havertz, who has two years left on his current deal, is keen for a fresh challenge following Leverkusen’s failure to qualify for the Champions League. Alongside champions Liverpool, Chelsea are also monitoring developments with the Brighton defender Ben White. Leeds United have already had two bids for White rejected and although they have made a third offer of £25m, Brighton are determined not to sell the 22-year-old. Lampard admires White, who helped Leeds win promotion to the Premier League during an impressive spell on loan at Elland Road last season, but it remains to be seen if anyone can come up with enough money to alter Brighton’s stance this summer. White, who has two years left on his contract with the option of an extra year, is yet to agree a new deal with Brighton and has rejected the club’s latest offer. Chelsea are hunting for defensive reinforcements, with Lampard keen to strengthen at left-back by signing Leicester’s Ben Chilwell. However Chelsea, who want West Ham’s Declan Rice, are likely to need to raise funds through sales before bringing in new defenders. Emerson Palmieri, out of favour at left-back, is a target for Internazionale and Lampard has been told that he will need to sell one of his four centre-backs before buying one. Fikayo Tomori was the subject of a loan bid from Rennes earlier this month but no decision has been made on the 22-year-olds’ short-term future. Chelsea could also boost their budget by allowing Jorginho to return to Serie A. Roma are interested in the Italy midfielder, who joined Chelsea from Napoli two years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: Get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 CareFree Youth saying that Atalanta have inquired about Batshuayi. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: CareFree Youth saying that Atalanta have inquired about Batshuayi. Would suit their team well given they create tons of chances for their strikers and we've seen Michy can be clinical if the ball is played to him in the box. Asking him to take part in the build-up is where he's useless. Don't think Atalanta will pay his wages though. I think their total wage bill at the moment is lower than a lot of teams in the Championship and Batshuayi earns like double compared to their current highest paid players. Of course they could be open to upping their wage bill to go with their new status as a CL level club (qualified twice in a row) but not sure about that. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: CareFree Youth saying that Atalanta have inquired about Batshuayi. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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