Vesper 30,175 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, communicate said: There is no way pool is after Sancho. Imagine talking to your board,and say "I want 150m pound for Sancho so he can start 10 games for us" also, I would not be shocked at all if Klopp turns Minamino into a bit of a baller, there is obviously something there that really caught their eyes, as Salzburg have other players I rate over him, especially Dominik Szoboszlai, who I can so see becoming a fucking monster under Klopp and eventually (he is only 19yo) solving their AMF issue (the only semi-weakpoint other than overall depth that they have) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: also, I would not be shocked at all if Klopp turns Minamino into a bit of a baller, there is obviously something there that really caught their eyes, as Salzburg have other players I rate over him, especially Dominik Szoboszlai, who I can so see becoming a fucking monster under Klopp and eventually (he is only 19yo) solving their AMF issue (the only semi-weakpoint other than overall depth that they have) I don't know about minamino, but it makr sense because it is quite cheap and as long as he is better than shaqiri/Lallana then it is all good. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, communicate said: I don't know about minamino, but it makr sense because it is quite cheap and as long as he is better than shaqiri/Lallana then it is all good. I do not really follow american football (NFL I mean) much but Victimpool reminds me (or is starting to) of a team, the New England Patriots who for ages (20 years now, back when I was a wee kid) have went out and purchased very specific players that fit exactly what their coach and management wanted and put them into a system they have a few mega stars (some amongst the best to ever play at that position, like Tom Brady who is still world class into his 40's ffs, he is the American Maldini, lolol) but then they take other far less talented players and raise them up to an integrated team that is just a monster year after year their coach, Bill Belichick, is a fucking genius, as yank football has such a short player career span for 80% or so of the players, the turnover is crazy high due to the utter brutality of the game https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nfl/tom-brady-and-the-patriots-appear-vulnerable-do-you-want-to-bet-against-them/2020/01/03/9cdf156c-2e38-11ea-bcd4-24597950008f_story.html snip People go to ashrams and consult sages for that kind of be-here-nowness. The thing is, the Patriots actually practice it. If they have shown one quality over the past 20 years, it’s concentration in the face of threat. That unwaveringness is hard to properly appreciate; the numbers boggle. They have reached 40 percent of the Super Bowls played since Robert Kraft bought the team in 1994. They have had one losing season since Belichick was hired in 2000. During Belichick’s tenure, there have been 192 coaching changes around the rest of the NFL. Their 125 wins over the past 10 regular seasons is more than any other team — by 22. Over that span they played through two royal weddings, the death of Bin Laden, the abdication of Pope Benedict, Lady Gaga’s meat dress, legalization of same-sex marriage, volcanic eruptions, ice bucket challenges, Pokémon Go, data breaches, cyberattacks, multiple Netflix binge-watches, the Kaepernick protests and the #MeToo movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 17 hours ago, Jason said: I STILL WANT WERNER! I am not sure about Werner but it looks like he is a striker who want to run behind. CHO/Puli - Tammy - Werner Mean that Cho and Puli will need to be very2 solid defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Chelsea missing out on Timo Werner January transfer could be good news for Frank Lampard Chelsea look unlikely to sign Timo Werner from RB Leipzig this month, but that could be a good thing for Frank Lampard. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1223633/Chelsea-transfer-news-Timo-Werner-January-RB-Leipzig-Frank-Lampard-gossip-rumours Chelsea missing out on Timo Werner in the January transfer window could actually pan out as a positive for Frank Lampard. Express Sport understands the Blues are keen on the RB Leipzig forward as they seek to strengthen this month after their FIFA transfer embargo was halved. Lyon’s Moussa Dembele and Fyodor Chalov of CSKA Moscow are also on Lampard’s wishlist and Werner would seemingly be the most expensive option of the trio. Chelsea have made enquiries about the Germany international but Leipzig, sat top of the Bundesliga and into the last 16 of the Champions League, do not want to sell their leading striker. Instead, it looks as though Chelsea will seek a £20million move for Chalov before returning to either Dembele and Werner in the summer. Lampard is looking for better back up to top goalscorer Tammy Abraham, who has provided 14 goals across all competitions this term - at least eight more than any other Chelsea player. And according to Goal, that may be a strategy that suits Chelsea and Lampard well. They report that Werner has a clause in his Leipzig contract that means he is available for a cheaper fee in the summer than he would be this month. Leipzig may be more willing to do business then and it would likely take a massive offer to prise him away from the Red Bull Arena midseason. Werner has produced 23 goals and 10 assists in 25 matches, including an incredible 18 goals in 17 league games, putting him only behind Bayern Munich’s Robert Lewandowski across Europe’s top five leagues. snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 8:55 AM, Jason said: It's strange to think that Germany have produced lots of talented, technical attacking players over the last decade but none of them scream consistency or have been consistent. Draxler, Gotze, Brandt and even Reus to name a few. It's almost as if the mental side of the game has been forgoed. Reus's problems were always injuries, he is an insane talent, crazy good player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Vesper said: Chelsea boss Frank Lampard pulls plug on Wilfried Zaha transfer over dressing room concern https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1223726/Chelsea-transfer-news-Wilfried-Zaha-deal-snub-Frank-Lampard-dressing-room-gossip-update Chelsea boss Frank Lampard has pulled the plug on a transfer for Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha. The Blues manager has cooled on the Ivory Coast international because of his extortionate wage demands. Zaha is said to want a whopping £200,000-a-week to move to Stamford Bridge but there are concerns at how that would go down in the dressing room. Only two players currently in the first-team at Chelsea earn sums in that region – something Lampard is keen not to disrupt. Transfer expert Ian McGarry also believes it could impact ongoing contract negotiations with the likes of Tammy Abraham and Mason Mount if Zaha was paid the huge wages. He told Reach PLC’s Transfer Window Podcast: “They also had an interest in Crystal Palace’s left-sided attacking midfielder Wilfried Zaha, similar kind of player but 28. “I’m told that the wages Zaha is asking for Chelsea believe would upset their dressing room. “He wants in excess of £200,000-a-week. Currently there are only two players on that money at Chelsea which you may find surprising. snip Ian McGarry has a history of talking BS and seemed to be the case here as well when he doesn't know that Mount has already signed a new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Why not Jovic on loan with option to buy?... Is he that bad in Santiago Bernabeu?... Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Alabama said: Why not Jovic on loan with option to buy?... Is he that bad in Santiago Bernabeu?... And you think Real will let him go because...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Alabama said: Why not Jovic on loan with option to buy?... Is he that bad in Santiago Bernabeu?... Real Madrid: "The problem with Jovic is Jovic" Ljubisa Tumbakovic, manager of the Serbian national team, has spoken out about what he feels are the issues with Los Blancos' €60-million striker. https://en.as.com/en/2020/01/02/football/1577995644_124753.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: Ian McGarry has a history of talking BS and seemed to be the case here as well when he doesn't know that Mount has already signed a new contract. Can't believe he's still going. Mcgarry is the ultimate bullshiter NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alabama 1,992 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, Jason said: And you think Real will let him go because...? But Zidane aint going to drop Karim who is on on fine form anytime soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: Ian McGarry has a history of talking BS and seemed to be the case here as well when he doesn't know that Mount has already signed a new contract. he just said this too https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1223788/Jadon-Sancho-Chelsea-transfer-decision-made-Frank-Lampard-Dortmund-latest-news-gossip Transfer expert Ian McGarry claims Dortmund demanded £103million for Sancho. And he believes there would be an additional £42.6m which would go to the winger’s agent making it a huge outlay for Chelsea. Sancho has also been linked with Liverpool and Manchester United in recent weeks with his Dortmund career seemingly coming to an end. snip IF true zero chance we dump out £145m (and if the pound goes down versus the euro it could quickly move to over £150m) for him, hell no fucking criminal cunt agents Emeka Obasi <<<< his agent (Elite Project Group LTD) Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, Alabama said: But Zidane aint going to drop Karim who is on on fine form anytime soon... Doesn't mean they're just going to let him go and leave themselves short on option. Also, if Jovic is part of their long term plan, what good does it do if he is loaned out after just 6 months when he's probably better off staying, trying to settle in etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: he just said this too https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1223788/Jadon-Sancho-Chelsea-transfer-decision-made-Frank-Lampard-Dortmund-latest-news-gossip Transfer expert Ian McGarry claims Dortmund demanded £103million for Sancho. And he believes there would be an additional £42.6m which would go to the winger’s agent making it a huge outlay for Chelsea. Sancho has also been linked with Liverpool and Manchester United in recent weeks with his Dortmund career seemingly coming to an end. snip IF true zero chance we dump out £145m (and if the pound goes down versus the euro it could quickly move to over £150m) for him, hell no fucking criminal cunt agents Emeka Obasi <<<< his agent (Elite Project Group LTD) He chats shit. Says it all when he's quoted by the likes of Daily Express. Muzchap and ulsterchelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Doesn't mean they're just going to let him go and leave themselves short on option. Also, if Jovic is part of their long term plan, what good does it do if he is loaned out after just 6 months when he's probably better off staying, trying to settle in etc? Anyway I would rather we wait till summer and go all out for Werner or Dembele and Sancho when they will available for transfer than sign mediocre players now that will add up the long list of shambolic players in our squad...All our other alternatives with few exception have mediocrity written over them... But our attack and defense scream for urgent help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jason said: He chats shit. Says it all when he's quoted by the likes of Daily Express. the actual transfer fee is fair but if the agent really wants bloody £42m that's a deal killer Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Regarding Nathan Ake, it sort of makes sense that we haven't rushed in to activate the buy-back clause. Is he a very solid, modern CB who would improve the squad? Yes. But is he clearly better than what we already have? That I'm not so sure about. Having thought about it more, I'm wondering whose place he would even take? His skill set and ability are pretty much the same as Tomori's. Doesn't it feel like any CB we target should be a dramatic upgrade? Trouble is, there aren't many VVD's or Harry Maguire's out there. We need that sort of player who is physically dominant and can command the defense but is also great with the ball. Zouma has the first part but is an accident waiting to happen anywhere near the ball. Other than Koulibaly I'm not even familiar with who the current hot properties are in the CB market. Muzchap, El P. and killer1257 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Vesper said: the actual transfer fee is fair but if the agent really wants bloody £42m that's a deal killer Could well be chatting shit, that's what I meant. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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