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20 minutes ago, BenjaminBlue said:

I want someone to ask some serious questions to Tuchel, one’s we all want to say not the monotonous ones the journalists recycle time and time again…

why do we resort to cross and hoping again and again?

why do we gift points to struggling teams?

why is their a fear to play incisive forward passes? - just sideways continually

It’s the same problems every goddam fucking season - there is a disease within the mentaility of these players. New owners need to pull out the weeds from root and stem.

You've answered your own question basically. 

Mourinho 2.0, Hiddink, Conte, Sarri, Lampard, and Tuchel. 6 managers in 6 years, and we've seen the same lackluster, slow football. Now you need to look at the players who have been here the longest:

(Azpilicueta, Rudiger, Alonso, Kante, Ruben, Kovacic.)

 

It clearly stems from the personnel. This turgid slow football followed by a collapse in mentality happens every season under a different manager, but these 6 same players are always at the helm of it. I'm sure there are other factors being played, but the personnel is the biggest one.  A massive clear out is needed. 

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11 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Havertz has SEVEN EPL goals and only 4 league assists

sorry but that is nowhere near good enough

Oddly City don't have anyone in the top 5 top scorers wise.3 of the 5 are Liverpool. City's is 9th.

Ours is Mount at 12th..with 10. Wooo and that's it out of 25 that are there

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I know many will disagree but Lukaku is a proven goal scorer but we have totally knocked the confidence out of him, because we don’t get him the ball early enough. In the same way as we ruined other centre forwards — Morata and Tammy to name but 2 !! We could sign Haarland ( not that we will) but if we take 20 minutes to get the ball out of our half, we would ruin him too

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20 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Oddly City don't have anyone in the top 5 top scorers wise.3 of the 5 are Liverpool. City's is 9th.

Ours is Mount at 12th..with 10. Wooo and that's it out of 25 that are there

Good point — but we have got 10 in the chart for completing the most back passes !!

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Looked terrible today but not very surprised about the result after seeing how both teams were lined up. 

Tuchel continues to run the same tactics against lower tier teams who park the bus. We rely on three in the back and wingbacks every match...

There's no ambition as the players seem disinterested with his current tactics. It's like he's scared to be more aggressive when we're still losing being conservative...

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6 minutes ago, Blues11 said:

Looked terrible today but not very surprised about the result after seeing how both teams were lined up. 

Tuchel continues to run the same tactics against lower tier teams who park the bus. We rely on three in the back and wingbacks every match...

There's no ambition as the players seem disinterested with his current tactics. It's like he's scared to be more aggressive when we're still losing being conservative...

Totall agree and Tuchel is an “ elite coach”.  However he doesn’t seem able to change tactics when our standard way of playing is not working. I can just about take the losing but let’s play with a bit of heart and positive tactics

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I can understand everything:

- We failed to score a goal today.
- There is a chronic problem with the lack of penetration up front, since after Hazard left.
- We never had a true centre forward since Diego.

But what the fcuking 'eck explains the barrage of own goals ???????????

 

 

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2 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

I can understand everything:

- We failed to score a goal today.
- There is a chronic problem with the lack of penetration up front, since after Hazard left.
- We never had a true centre forward since Diego.

But what the fcuking 'eck explains the barrage of own goals ???????????

 

 

WE are without defence. Our defenders are on their way out and they are not giving 100 %. They are saving themselves from injuries and their lack of commitment affects  everyone involved.

 

Average signings. Only time we got couple of quality signings we lost the best player ever. While he was here we surrendered him with mostly mediocre. IN meanwhile we were getting championship quality players. Half of them on the loan, half of them on the bench. Not good enough midfield humpers  attack.   Average attack. Season after season.  Solid defence for one season and they are gone. I bet that is because they saw ambition with this management. 

 Our transfer policy is hunting us.  If we managed top four this season it would be our last one for quite some time.  Marina was happy having us in the middle of the table, she wouldn't be getting championship quality otherwise. And selling our prospects to get more toss.

Many are afraid we will become top four - middle of the table cup team under new ownership. And what are we now? What have we been since Conte? Don't let Tuchel's cup masterclass full you.

 

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3 minutes ago, laura90 said:

WE are without defence. Our defenders are on their way out and they are not giving 100 %. They are saving themselves from injuries and their lack of commitment affects  everyone involved.

 

Average signings. Only time we got couple of quality signings we lost the best player ever. While he was here we surrendered him with mostly mediocre. IN meanwhile we were getting championship quality players. Half of them on the loan, half of them on the bench. Not good enough midfield humpers  attack.   Average attack. Season after season.  Solid defence for one season and they are gone. I bet that is because they saw ambition with this management. 

 Our transfer policy is hunting us.  If we managed top four this season it would be our last one for quite some time.  Marina was happy having us in the middle of the table, she wouldn't be getting championship quality otherwise. And selling our prospects to get more toss.

Many are afraid we will become top four - middle of the table cup team under new ownership. And what are we now? What have we been since Conte? Don't let Tuchel's cup masterclass full you.

 

Abramovitch after 2010 was not a money spending machine really.
Some succesful signings, two champions leagues (!) but he was not the big figure in the transfer market.
Two champions leagues is no mean achievement really. There are no longer teams that can win those three and four times. When Ajax and Bayern were doing it, the opposition was two classes below. Like today's Chelsea against the class of Lille and Krasnodarsk.
The problem upfront persists after Hazard and Lukaku was a dismal failure.
But those own goals are not because we have championship level defenders. You got to be an Isthmian league team to concede those. It's crazy.
Why are we never gifted any such ? What is going on ?

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Think the point about some defenders having an eye on their future has some merit. The Premiership needs 110% effort and concentration. Who let Rudi,Aspi,Christianson all run their contracts down at the same time ? Not saying they are not trying but can’t be the 110% needed when part of their mind is on when they are moving, new houses, new club pre season etc.

Meanwhile we can’t even talk to replacements !! 
I just pray the sale is sorted sooner rather than later !!

 

 

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Honestly don't want to watch anymore games this season if the players are just wanting to go through the motions. 

I am not too worried about 4th simply because Le Arse and Spuds have to play each other, Spuds also have the Dippers away. 

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