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When City and Liverpool face a team like this who are aggressive and man mark like crazy they pop it around quickly and rip them apart. What do we do? We play zombie ball, walk around passing it back and forth between the defenders, and lose the ball easily whenever pressed.

May as well just throw on Lukaku and let him battle and wrestle with these Everton thugs. Maybe he’ll scrap a goal in.

And btw, Yerry Mina is a disgrace of a player. Massive CB who throws himself to ground with any contact and is always desperately trying to con the ref into booking opponents.

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Just now, Pizy said:

When City and Liverpool face a team like this who are aggressive and man mark like crazy they pop it around quickly and rip them apart. What do we do? We play zombie ball, walk around passing it back and forth between the defenders, and lose the ball easily whenever pressed.

Both sides you mentioned didn't exactly blitz the same opposition (City should have lost tbh).  

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1 minute ago, LAM09 said:

Both sides you mentioned didn't exactly blitz the same opposition (City should have lost tbh).  

Yeah, I’m just saying in general. This has been a pattern for us going back years and under several managers now. When a vastly inferior opponent, no matter their form, simply ups their intensity and presses we cannot deal with it.

Players with poor first touch, players not switched in to danger, dwelling on the ball instead of playing it quickly. 
 

When the hell can we have a team that doesn’t struggle mightily ahi as t this sort of team? Because literally any small team can deploy these tactics and be highly effective against us.

 

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8 minutes ago, Pizy said:

When City and Liverpool face a team like this who are aggressive and man mark like crazy they pop it around quickly and rip them apart. What do we do? We play zombie ball, walk around passing it back and forth between the defenders, and lose the ball easily whenever pressed.

May as well just throw on Lukaku and let him battle and wrestle with these Everton thugs. Maybe he’ll scrap a goal in.

And btw, Yerry Mina is a disgrace of a player. Massive CB who throws himself to ground with any contact and is always desperately trying to con the ref into booking opponents.

thats south american players for you, they have a natural talent for play acting.

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1 minute ago, Pizy said:

Yeah, I’m just saying in general. This has been a pattern for us going back years and under several managers now. When a vastly inferior opponent, no matter their form, simply ups their intensity and presses we cannot deal with it.

Players with poor first touch, players not switched in to danger, dwelling on the ball instead of playing it quickly. 
 

When the hell can we have a team that doesn’t struggle mightily ahi as t this sort of team? Because literally any small team can deploy these tactics and be highly effective against us.

 

It mainly comes down to personnel. We either have players that generally play at a snails pace or are limited technically. We can only hope things will finally change in the near future.

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