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[Vesper 27,383]

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I did not see Fulham had scored before

[Magic Lamps 11,462]

Our attackers are all absolute pish 

defenders saving the day again. Wingbacks/fullbacks are our most important players in attack. It’s no coincidence. When rj and chilly come back we will score more again but might not be enough 

First Alonso goal since half a year 

Azpi since 1 y 

 

[Stats 6,987]

4 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Been saying it for weeks even though he has been bizarrely praised by journalists, but Malang Sarr is a horrendous footballer. We used to complain that Zouma was a great defender but had a lack of composure on the ball and that’s why he wasn’t good enough. Sarr is way, WAY worse in the ball even with simple, schoolboy passes. He is never Chelsea quality. He panics under the slightest pressure from the opposition.

He made a poor error and Kepa saved his ass and he started off really shakily in his first few Chelsea games, but come on he has really improved last few weeks and was more than deserving of his place in the team.

[Pizy 17,861]

Worrying thing about our attack is idk what we can even do to make things better. Yes, we can drop Lukaku, but just like last season Havertz, Werner, and pretty much everyone else is woefully out of form. Ziyech has been our only dangerous attacker for a while now.

We need another significant overhaul this summer. We are never winning the league with attackers who have 1 good game in 8.

[Alabama 1,992]

And that's the principal reason Werner has been sentenced to the bench....

[Pizy 17,861]

1 minute ago, Stats said:

He made a poor error and Kepa saved his ass and he started off really shakily in his first few Chelsea games, but come on he has really improved last few weeks and was more than deserving of his place in the team.

Nah, not having that at all. Plays simple passes out of play constantly, gives away silly free kicks due to being caught out of position, overruns the ball all the time due to poor touches. And unlike Zouma, who even though he was poor on the ball, Sarr doesn’t have the dominant aerial and physical tools to make up for it.

He offers nothing imo. Makes a few decent sliding tackles and that’s really it.

[ZAPHOD2319 3,903]

 

[Stats 6,987]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Worrying thing about our attack is idk what we can even do to make things better. Yes, we can drop Lukaku, but just like last season Havertz, Werner, and pretty much everyone else is woefully out of form. Ziyech has been our only dangerous attacker for a while now.

We need another significant overhaul this summer. We are never winning the league with attackers who have 1 good game in 8.

The coaching of the attacking set up is maybe the question. We buy players who are stars at their previous clubs and look lost when they play for us. If we buy more and more players, it will just be de-ja-vu. Maybe something needs to be looked at in the structure because it is way too many players.

[Alabama 1,992]

1 minute ago, Stats said:

The coaching of the attacking set up is maybe the question. We buy players who are stars at their previous clubs and look lost when they play for us. If we buy more and more players, it will just be de-ja-vu. Maybe something needs to be looked at in the structure because it is way too many players.

And more excuses....

Summary....our attackers/strikers are shit... 

[Magic Lamps 11,462]

Just now, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Read the slow run up perfectly and got down at the right moment.  Roughly two thirds of slow or short run ups go to the shooters outside, less powerful side 

[Stats 6,987]

Just now, Alabama said:

And more excuses....

Summary....our attackers/strikers are shit... 

Is it excuses... why is it that they struggle here but hit it off at their previous clubs? Coincidence or not. Been a problem way too long. 

[Stats 6,987]

4 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Kepa did well to read it, but "what a save" is an over-exaggeration. Let's be honest 😁

Edited February 5, 2022 by Stats

[Magic Lamps 11,462]

3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Nah, not having that at all. Plays simple passes out of play constantly, gives away silly free kicks due to being caught out of position, overruns the ball all the time due to poor touches. And unlike Zouma, who even though he was poor on the ball, Sarr doesn’t have the dominant aerial and physical tools to make up for it.

He offers nothing imo. Makes a few decent sliding tackles and that’s really it.

It is his first season in English football tho. Most defenders struggle with he pace and intensity. He is still Young. Rather have him than Alonso on the pitch. Don’t want sarr to stay here long term but as a short term fix we have to accept his shortcomings are the lesser evil 

[OneMoSalah 8,616]

7 minutes ago, Stats said:

The coaching of the attacking set up is maybe the question. We buy players who are stars at their previous clubs and look lost when they play for us. If we buy more and more players, it will just be de-ja-vu. Maybe something needs to be looked at in the structure because it is way too many players.

Who of our actual attackers/wingers are starting at other top clubs though?

Very easy to say its coaching but they’ve been very poor. We wouldn’t miss the likes of Pulisic, Werner, Ziyech etc if they were sold tomorrow.

Even Havertz recently, he has been, well, Havertz. Mount also has dipped. 

Edited February 5, 2022 by OneMoSalah

[Alabama 1,992]

5 minutes ago, Stats said:

Is it excuses... why is it that they struggle here but hit it off at their previous clubs? Coincidence or not. Been a problem way too long. 

Under the current set up....yes they are shit...am not exonerating the coaching structure especially the way Tuchel has been rotating the attacking line up for a while now (which now I can clearly see) but damm Lukaku Werner Pulisic Odoi and now Havertz are all shit...under better quality end product the game would have been done by 1st half which has been the hallmark of our attacking players two season in a row now....

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

It is his first season in English football tho. Most defenders struggle with he pace and intensity. He is still Young. Rather have him than Alonso on the pitch. Don’t want sarr to stay here long term but as a short term fix we have to accept his shortcomings are the lesser evil 

The problem with Sarr as the LB is he offers no attacking threat whatsoever, which means whoever is playing in front of him will have to a superhero job and provide all the attacking threat. Had Sarr still been playing at LB, that winner today wouldn't have happened. 

[OneMoSalah 8,616]

1 minute ago, Jase said:

The problem with Sarr as the LB is he offers no attacking threat whatsoever, which means whoever is playing in front of him will have to a superhero job and provide all the attacking threat. Had Sarr still been playing at LB, that winner today wouldn't have happened. 

Yep.

Round peg in a square hole unfortunately but its an option we have to use until the summer.

If we go back to a 3 more often than a 4 he would be better suited as a LCB though undoubtedly.

Edited February 5, 2022 by OneMoSalah

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Who of our actual attackers/wingers are starting at other top clubs though?

Very easy to say its coaching but they’ve been very poor. We wouldn’t miss the likes of Pulisic, Werner, Ziyech etc if they were sold tomorrow.

Even Havertz recently, he has been, well, Havertz. Mount also has dipped. 

If we sell them on the cheap, I'm sure some clubs would take their chances on them. They have either shown in glimpses what they can do here or at other clubs. There are reasons why some of those players were highly coveted by others before we got them. I don't think they suddenly became shit, especially when our attacking system continues to be confusing and no manager has been able to implement any sort of consistency over our attacking plays over the last decade or so. We have gotten away with it like 3/4 of the time because we had 2-3 individuals making the difference.