closed Brighton 1-1 Chelsea

[Tomo 21,751]

6 minutes ago, Jase said:

You know shit is getting really real when Tomo starts to call people 'wanker'. 😆

You weren't here in the Torres era?

Genuinely thought that was as worse as it would ever get in terms of the sheer way a player is holding us back.

[Fulham Broadway 17,320]

33 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Lukaku is lonely and useless. He needs somebody like a super Cesc or an Archie Gemmil to make things

Was thinking the same. Hasselbaink and Guddy - unfortunately Werner and Lukaku is more like Laurel and Hardy.

[cosmicway 1,333]

9 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I have been looking forward to this game since the last. A chance for us to get some momentum moving forward. I can’t see how we are going to sell Lukaku? I just don’t have the emotional budget for this shit play right now. Werner and Havertz are doing fuck all too.  

Full price no. But Newcastle paid 33 mil for Hazard (while we think he could n't be of use back in Chelsea).

[SomethingSomething 17]

2 hours ago, cosmicway said:

At least that was n't like Burnley or Everton.
Under more normal circumstances I would consider it as a small loss (don't tell me that Porto who has the same colours as Brtn are better).
I was about to search the Amex stadium phone number to suggest to some of you to call Ziyech, when at that moment he scored the goal. But apart from that nuts from him.
Between him and Pulisitch I prefer Pulisitch.
Lukaku was isolated again and our long range shooters who found some opportunities always went for the roof (CHO=Kante=Kovasitch).
Kai is certainly not ready, that being the reason he is not starting.

About Lukaku again I don't think he is fundamentally different from Diego Costa.
The difference was that back then we had Hazard who was opening defenses with his solo runs and feeding Diego. Also Cesc.
In the end we did n't like Costa, because he was a heavy man and we did n't like heavy men. But with Lukaku we changed our minds and splashed 100 mil.

 

Costa was difficult personality, but he pulled his weight. Lukaku is just shite.

[Jase 43,479]

6 hours ago, Tomo said:

You weren't here in the Torres era?

Genuinely thought that was as worse as it would ever get in terms of the sheer way a player is holding us back.

Depends on when you said it. I only joined TC in Feb 2012. lol

[Laylabelle 9,535]

8 hours ago, Pizy said:

If any of the clubs behind us can simply get a run together of a few wins on the bounce we are in trouble.

Definitely especially with games in hands. Not like 9 clear with the same played 

[Blue Armour 4,448]

7 hours ago, Tomo said:

You weren't here in the Torres era?

Genuinely thought that was as worse as it would ever get in terms of the sheer way a player is holding us back.

Hehe...remember those days.

There was the Drogba camp. And there was the Torres camp. I know which one I was part of. lol.

[nyikolajevics 2,700]

Passed out when we were winning, only saw we lost two points in the morning.. Same as few weeks ago against Brighton.. Deja vu..

 

Maybe should promote some youngsters, first squad members look super tired.

[manpe 10,861]

Can't believe Havertz sat out 80 minutes in favour of Lukaku, who did nothing. We won the CL with Havertz leading the line, can't Tuchel remember that? Took far too long to make changes.

[chelsea_4_eva 1,182]

Tuchel mentioned something about mentally tired and i can quite see it, the togetherness and grit we had is not as it was before. Something is off in the dressing room..

[Tomo 21,751]

4 hours ago, Jase said:

Depends on when you said it. I only joined TC in Feb 2012. lol

I was constantly arguing people who somehow watched him and were coming to the conclusion he was better than Sturridge and Eto'o.

[gdlk 286]

Players should proove on the field that they deserve to be on the stafting 11. Not with interviews on media or complaining. Tuchel said that Mount has beed unhappy from that he didnt started with City.. So we see again players power vs coach?? 

Something similar is happening in United too. 

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

I was constantly arguing people who somehow watched him and were coming to the conclusion he was better than Sturridge and Eto'o.

Then I must have totally forgotten about it. Gotta forgive the old man memory here. 😛

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

5 hours ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

Tuchel mentioned something about mentally tired and i can quite see it, the togetherness and grit we had is not as it was before. Something is off in the dressing room..

Getting so sick of hearing that excuse. Why are Havertz, Werner, and even bloody Saul never used? Mount is rotated every other game?

 

[Mário César 1,280]

havertz, werner, ziyech, pulisic... all are not good enough

too money spended in shit players

we won the champions league because was a knockout competition. in the league, no chance that we can win with this players. no way 

[cosmicway 1,333]

6 minutes ago, Mário César said:

havertz, werner, ziyech, pulisic... all are not good enough

too money spended in shit players

we won the champions league because was a knockout competition. in the league, no chance that we can win with this players. no way 

In the cl we beat City while the other teams we beat were good teams but not so great (and RM were undergoing a depression period).
Kai is evidenltly not 100% ok after he was infected by the "O".
Werner and Ziyetch are dedinitely not Chelsea material. If we had them here in Greece perhaps they would make statues of both in the public squares but the level of football is what matters.

[Mário César 1,280]

besides in the beginning of the season was the defense that give us "hope" to think about winning the league. 

Most of our goals was scored by our defenses... reece james, thiago, rudiger, chilwell... this isn't sustentable.

our attacker players need to produce more and more... look at hazard, costa, drogba, lampard.... players that has "goal". 

[chelsea_4_eva 1,182]

45 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Getting so sick of hearing that excuse. Why are Havertz, Werner, and even bloody Saul never used? Mount is rotated every other game?

 

When i said this, what i meant was the whole squad seems mentally tired like something is off in the dressing room

 

Edited January 19, 2022 by chelsea_4_eva

[cosmicway 1,333]

7 minutes ago, Mário César said:

besides in the beginning of the season was the defense that give us "hope" to think about winning the league. 

Most of our goals was scored by our defenses... reece james, thiago, rudiger, chilwell... this isn't sustentable.

our attacker players need to produce more and more... look at hazard, costa, drogba, lampard.... players that has "goal". 

Chil and James were scoring regularly. It was not chancey like with Christensen and Chalobar when they score sometimes.
Unfortunately we lost both for some time and Alonso-Azpi are not as good.
Then our attackers are locked in a permanent Lampard wall mode and the "weapon" Lukaku is useless without a Cesc around.

Edited January 19, 2022 by cosmicway

[Jase 43,479]

14 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Chil and James were scoring regularly. It was not chancey like with Christensen and Chalobar when they score sometimes.
Unfortunately we lost both for some time and Alonso-Azpi are not as good.

This isn't exactly accurate. Yes, Chilwell and James are important to the way we play as wingbacks but by the time Chilwell got injured, he hadn't scored in 5 games. He had only that purple patch in October where he scored 3 goals in 4 games. Similarly, by the time James got injured, he hadn't scored in 9 games and again, he also had that one purple between late October and November where he scored 4 goals in 6 games. So really, by the time they got injured, their output had dried up (Chilwell had only 1 assist in that 5 games while James also had only 1 assist in that 9 games) and in James, he had also gone off the boil performance wise. They really couldn't sustain their output, something as well that they have not managed consistently in their career so far, compared to say Robertson and TAA at Liverpool.