Newcastle buy out

[Fulham Broadway 17,310]

53 minutes ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Apparently Newcastle can and want to spend roughly £200M in jan and another £200m in the summer.

The saudi wealth fund is actually worth £700billion etc just split between assets and gold camel statues!

Steve bruce looking towards the exit, Staveley visited players and manager today.

Almost as much as they spent on 9/11

[milka 3,393]

great coach not only because of what he did at Chelsea in his first year, but he still gives the impression that he is mainly looking for where  to spend some big money 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by milka

[MoroccanBlue 5,381]

Can't wait for Newcastle to buy 29-32 year olds for substantial fees and wages, only to be stuck with them if they fall off a cliff as players tend to do 30+

[MoroccanBlue 5,381]

1 hour ago, Mário César said:

Source?

It's bollocks. FFP in place has clubs needing to show some sort of profit on the books to justify this spending.

This isn't 2003. 

[Jap Si. 50]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Can't wait for Newcastle to buy 29-32 year olds for substantial fees and wages, only to be stuck with them if they fall off a cliff as players tend to do 30+

Do you really think they give fuck about that. This is going to be spending on a massive scale they might mot get targets they want at first but in five years they will have exceptional team better get used to it.

[Warning_Hazard 156]

3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

It's bollocks. FFP in place has clubs needing to show some sort of profit on the books to justify this spending.

This isn't 2003. 

FFP is a rolling 3 year thing and with no debts they can spend big

Im awaiting the aramco sponsership deals and the like also!!

Think i read FFP has also been relaxed or will be from super league fears. uefa are going to chnage ffp!

Edited October 11, 2021 by Warning_Hazard

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Can't wait for Newcastle to buy 29-32 year olds for substantial fees and wages, only to be stuck with them if they fall off a cliff as players tend to do 30+

The thing is, if they get a good recruitment plan and project in place which Conte is all for based on his Inter signings the likes of Barella, Lukaku, Hakimi, Eriksen, Lazaro, Sensi, Politano were all in various ages below the ages of 29-32 so its not a given he will go and buy shit tonnes of 29-32 year olds. 

Sanchez, Darmian, Vidal, Kolarov, Young were really the only older guys he signed there majority of the others kids/players between 19-28.

If they make a plan in the same way City did with Pellegrini and then Pep, building their squad with a mix of young, middle age and few older senior pros or players in their prime then theres no reason why they cannot achieve or build to something good.

This Conte 29-32 year old signing thing really is bizarre, maybe at Juventus he did (Juventus have been good at squeezing every ounce out of players who are in that age bracket and above though - in recent times I can think of Pirlo, Barzaghli, Buffon, Chielleni Tevez, even Matri and Vucinic had reasonable returns for him in their late 20s or whatever ages in their 30s - but he did openly say himself about them being tight which is why he left.

Here the likes of Giroud and a few others Dzeko etc who were linked, they were probably all that was available at the time considering it was January too. But you’d think he signed 25 old men at every club hes ever been at reading this place sometimes 😂 And even if he did or didn’t, he’s got the trophies to show it works. Obviously getting success is one thing but its about sustaining it, at Juve he built an excellent squad prior to Allegri going there, here he brought in a few very good players and again the majority of the starting 11 at Inter, the stand out players such as Barella, Martinez, Lukaku (left), Hakimi (left) all improved ten fold under him and he signed them bar Martinez. 

Edited October 11, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[NikkiCFC 8,318]

4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Can't wait for Newcastle to buy 29-32 year olds for substantial fees and wages, only to be stuck with them if they fall off a cliff as players tend to do 30+

They are linked with Tarkowski, Gallagher, Tielemans, Icardi... 

[Jap Si. 50]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

The thing is, if they get a good recruitment plan and project in place which Conte is all for based on his Inter signings the likes of Barella, Lukaku, Hakimi, Eriksen, Lazaro, Sensi, Politano were all in various ages below the ages of 29-32 so its not a given he will go and buy shit tonnes of 29-32 year olds. 

Sanchez, Darmian, Vidal, Kolarov, Young were really the only older guys he signed there majority of the others kids/players between 19-28.

If they make a plan in the same way City did with Pellegrini and then Pep, building their squad with a mix of young, middle age and few older senior pros or players in their prime then theres no reason why they cannot achieve or build to something good.

This Conte 29-32 year old signing thing really is bizarre, maybe at Juventus he did (Juventus have been good at squeezing every ounce out of players who are in that age bracket and above though - in recent times I can think of Pirlo, Barzaghli, Buffon, Chielleni Tevez, even Matri and Vucinic had reasonable returns for him in their late 20s or whatever ages in their 30s - but he did openly say himself about them being tight which is why he left.

Here the likes of Giroud and a few others Dzeko etc who were linked, they were probably all that was available at the time considering it was January too. But you’d think he signed 25 old men at every club hes ever been at reading this place sometimes 😂 And even if he did or didn’t, he’s got the trophies to show it works. Obviously getting success is one thing but its about sustaining it, at Juve he built an excellent squad prior to Allegri going there, here he brought in a few very good players and again the majority of the starting 11 at Inter, the stand out players such as Barella, Martinez, Lukaku (left), Hakimi (left) all improved ten fold under him and he signed them bar Martinez. 

You over analyse they will be spending massive money will be no plan as such who's ever available they will bid starting in January. The team they have is shit by start of next season will be totally different 11 might not be all a listers but better then trash they have now.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

8 minutes ago, Jap Si. said:

You over analyse they will be spending massive money will be no plan as such who's ever available they will bid starting in January. The team they have is shit by start of next season will be totally different 11 might not be all a listers but better then trash they have now.

They need to get a manager first though.

Also, when has a manager ever joined a club which by the time they bin Bruce and get someone picked and things in place probably be closer to midway through the season and goes and buys excessively in the January? Its almost unheard of. 

Edited October 11, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[Jap Si. 50]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

Its almost unheard of. 

So is a club second bottom of the league being taken over by Arab money, Bruce gone this week they will hire someone till end of season like Chelsea did with Hiddink and Benitez. Loads of managers will jump at chance hiring won't be problem.

[Warning_Hazard 156]

9 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

They need to get a manager first though.

Also, when has a manager ever joined a club which by the time they bin Bruce and get someone picked and things in place probably be closer to midway through the season and goes and buys excessively in the January? Its almost unheard of. 

TT came in, In January!

[Jap Si. 50]

55 minutes ago, Warning_Hazard said:

TT came in, In January!

Bruce is toast they play Spurs on Sunday party time for them fans wearing Arab costume . If they lose fans will boo and shout abuse at Bruce he'll be gone by Sun evening.

[Warning_Hazard 156]

1 hour ago, Jap Si. said:

Bruce is toast they play Spurs on Sunday party time for them fans wearing Arab costume . If they lose fans will boo and shout abuse at Bruce he'll be gone by Sun evening.

Dont know about you but ive never seen the chair of a board of any football club come out and say the things staveley did!

Proof is in the pud, Some newcastle nerds are already getting squeeky bums from him not being sacked when she visted yesterday...

Imagine its all rubbish and they dont change anything and dont make any moves, There will be a an absolut mutiny!

I was thinking all the other clubs in the prem maybe in europe will do all they can to stop them getting what they need etc.

Brilliant video i watched where this guy was saying isreal should buy sunderland and then we can watch as the fans turn up with rpg's and turn the derby into a full blown battlefield!

Edited October 12, 2021 by Warning_Hazard

[nyikolajevics 2,697]

4 hours ago, Jap Si. said:

Bruce is toast they play Spurs on Sunday party time for them fans wearing Arab costume . If they lose fans will boo and shout abuse at Bruce he'll be gone by Sun evening.

Newcastle-Spurs game.. Man! I can't possibly think of any worse way to spend two hours.

[Jap Si. 50]

3 hours ago, nyikolajevics said:

Newcastle-Spurs game.. Man! I can't possibly think of any worse way to spend two hours.

What about England - Hungary tonight 😂. Bruce is dead man walking did u know he has managed both Sheffield, Birmingham and North East club man has fuck all loyalty and will go anywhere for paycheque like Morinhio 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

9 hours ago, Warning_Hazard said:

TT came in, In January!

And who did Tuchel buy? Nobody. Thats the whole point. Not on about solely appointing managers, its happens midseason more or less 75% of the time all around Europe.

18 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

They need to get a manager first though.

Also, when has a manager ever joined a club - which by the time they bin Bruce and get someone picked and things in place probably be closer to midway through the season - and goes and buys excessively in the January? Its almost unheard of. 

maybe this will help…. And by joined - club I mean after the seasons kicked off as we are 7 games in already.

Anyway, as I can see here, there are 100% people expecting Bruce to have been sacked on the day they confirmed the take over and for a new manager to come in a day or two after, which is quite frankly ludicrous.

As a club just taken over after an initial failed takeover attempt prior, I doubt they’ll have even thought about having anything in place immediately with a manager. They’ll have a list perhaps but I’d be surprised if its not Bruce or his assistant taking the game at the weekend although it is only Tuesday.

17 hours ago, Jap Si. said:

So is a club second bottom of the league being taken over by Arab money, Bruce gone this week they will hire someone till end of season like Chelsea did with Hiddink and Benitez. Loads of managers will jump at chance hiring won't be problem.

End of season? I don’t think that would make sense.

If they are smart, they will maybe take a bit of time to see who’s out there and get someone who wants to build the club for a couple of seasons at least so they can actually have a reasonable progression and build expectations up as opposed to going from Steve Bruce to a caretaker for 6 months to another manager then the following summer changing between 3 different managers, with 3 different views on football and 3 different goals entirely. Plus if they want a director of football (which is rumoured) and also try and get the likes of Shearer, Keegan and whoever else in place also in some capacity, depending what those roles are particularly if they are going to be footballing roles, they have to be compatible with whoever they want to appoint as manager too.

We have seen whilst here, our model of changing managers has worked very well, you also see that Liverpool and City have done the opposite with Klopp and Pep, investing in their project and ideas long term and they’ve built up in a way where they’ve followed a clear plan that gives them the opportunity for sustained success.

City in recent times are begrudgingly the perfect example really. Once Txiki Begiristain was appointed and Pellegrini came in, everyone and their dog could see they were building for Pep eventually and to have all the footballing infrastructure in place to give him the best chance of implementing everything he wanted.

Edited October 12, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[Warning_Hazard 156]

46 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

And who did Tuchel buy? Nobody. Thats the whole point. Not on about solely appointing managers, its happens midseason more or less 75% of the time all around Europe.

maybe this will help…. And by joined - club I mean after the seasons kicked off as we are 7 games in already.

Anyway, as I can see here, there are 100% people expecting Bruce to have been sacked on the day they confirmed the take over and for a new manager to come in a day or two after, which is quite frankly ludicrous.

As a club just taken over after an initial failed takeover attempt prior, I doubt they’ll have even thought about having anything in place immediately with a manager. They’ll have a list perhaps but I’d be surprised if its not Bruce or his assistant taking the game at the weekend although it is only Tuesday.

End of season? I don’t think that would make sense.

If they are smart, they will maybe take a bit of time to see who’s out there and get someone who wants to build the club for a couple of seasons at least so they can actually have a reasonable progression and build expectations up as opposed to going from Steve Bruce to a caretaker for 6 months to another manager then the following summer changing between 3 different managers, with 3 different views on football and 3 different goals entirely. Plus if they want a director of football (which is rumoured) and also try and get the likes of Shearer, Keegan and whoever else in place also in some capacity, depending what those roles are particularly if they are going to be footballing roles, they have to be compatible with whoever they want to appoint as manager too.

We have seen whilst here, our model of changing managers has worked very well, you also see that Liverpool and City have done the opposite with Klopp and Pep, investing in their project and ideas long term and they’ve built up in a way where they’ve followed a clear plan that gives them the opportunity for sustained success.

City in recent times are begrudgingly the perfect example really. Once Txiki Begiristain was appointed and Pellegrini came in, everyone and their dog could see they were building for Pep eventually and to have all the footballing infrastructure in place to give him the best chance of implementing everything he wanted.

So you think they will let the club get relegated and stick with steve bruce?

Ive seen wilder things but i reckon they bring in a few players jan and change the manager.

TT didnt bring in players as we have a totaly different team and we brought in loads the summer before as we are/were limited by FFP which is rolling over a 3yr period.

We have had managers bring in their players loads and also had roman/the board bring in all sorts regardless which often didnt work out.

If roman bought us in the same situation as newcastle im sure he would of pumped in more than he did (we spent £111m back then immediatly to push us on past 4th)

newcastle with like 3/4 better players and new manager are easily mid table id say

 

Edited October 12, 2021 by Warning_Hazard

[ZAPHOD2319 4,814]

Sky Sports is usually all fluff. But they had a few guests that made this chat about what we can expect going forward with Newcastle. It was pretty grounded in how adding players and a new manager can lead to failure if you are getting people that just want the money. Interesting the people involved all agreed it will take years if they go about it to build a top team. Some saying with what Newcastle has currently, it could be closer to 10 year than 5.

 

 

[nyikolajevics 2,697]

1 hour ago, Jap Si. said:

What about England - Hungary tonight 😂. Bruce is dead man walking did u know he has managed both Sheffield, Birmingham and North East club man has fuck all loyalty and will go anywhere for paycheque like Morinhio 

Tbf, all WC-qualifiers looks awful.