Jase 43,479 Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 Did a little digging on our record (all competitions except the Community Shield) against the other top sides + Leicester since the start of 2017/18 and it's a little wonder why we have struggled to win the major prizes... So in our last 66 games in all competitions (except the Community Shield) against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Leicester, we have won only 23 of those games and lost 25 of them, meaning we have a win rate of only 35%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, chippy said: Never a dull moment. Always feel there's something good around the corner but when it comes, some pile of shit is starting to build up and heading our way again. It's becoming all very Spursy. 16 minutes ago, chippy said: Take that anyday over being an Everton fan with year after year of world class mediocrity. Are we supposed to feel good about that? We mock clubs like them, like Arsenal, like Spurs but we are becoming like them. Johnnyeye and Laylabelle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jas said: It's becoming all very Spursy. Are we supposed to feel good about that? We mock clubs like them, like Arsenal, like Spurs but we are becoming like them. If if if if if if if if if if somehow we can win against City and put this behind us..yay...but if we get to 2 finals.. lose both that's 3 finals in 2 years we would've lost. Thats depressing. Like say very Arsenal/Spurs like..except Arsenal even managed a trophy last year. Just the way it all happened.. so predictable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 13 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Stick to the tinfoil hats and flat earth conspiracies mate. And you to the best optician mate.....wish you the best of luck on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 14 hours ago, Vesper said: if you can find me a pic with ball in air AND he is onside (not saying that you cannot find this, I just did not see it) then I will explode in rage truly I will find one, their goal should not have stood either by the rules. 11 hours ago, Jas said: Corruption at display 3 hours ago, Azul said: You're just waffling for the sake of it now. VAR has the technology to work in miliseconds and can take an earlier picture of the first contact Thiago's foot has with the ball. The fact that they've made a decision in less than a minute when it usually takes longer, is really suspicious. Regarding the Tielemans one, the rule states: That if an accidental handball happens that creates a goalscoring opportunity then it should be penalised. Here's the proof. If you still disagree after I've provided you clear evidence for how VAR has fucked us over then you're not to be reasond with. Stop spewing BS ffs, you forgot your tinfoil hat. 2 hours ago, Azul said: It's a tool used for corruption, especially in England. It works like a charm in the Eredivisie, because we have proper refs over here. Has nothing do to with refs, its the orders that come they act upon. VAR is a lovely tech, a plus for footy but as we very clearly have seen since day 1 is that you can so easily manipulate it, then you add no consistency and EPL is the result. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy 342 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, Jas said: It's becoming all very Spursy. Are we supposed to feel good about that? We mock clubs like them, like Arsenal, like Spurs but we are becoming like them. Nah, we're a longway off from becoming one of those clubs. The sacking of Frank showed that Roman is as ruthless and ambitious as ever. He will never settle for us making top four. The reason why we''ve fallen away from competing for the title is entirely down to us making far too many bad decisions in the transfer market, which started in that summer when we signed the woeful Bats and co. We've got very little right since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Jas said: VAR was brought in to help "clear and obvious" error by referees but it has just made things worse because at the end of day, we're all still at the mercy of the officials controlling the VAR and there are too many fucking incompetent officials in England. Yesterday wasn't the first time we saw goals ruled out in such stupid fashion and it also wasn't the first time we got screwed over by VAR decisions this season! Football is really becoming nonsense with goals being decided by lines/millimeters and dumb offside rules. Unless someone is blatantly offside, what has happened to giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team? Does anyone even know what's the handball and offside rules anymore? We had the Werner goal at Anfield ruled out because his hand was in an offside position. We had Chilwell's goal ruled out because his left hand was in an offside position. But Leicester's goal stood even though Perez touched the ball, accidentally or not. Officials are just making things up as they go along! The Werner thing is ridiculous and they should change the rule, but it's still in the rules that the upper body part counts as being offside. So I can see where they were coming from with that. However what happened yesterday with the Tielemans goal is blatant robbery that went against their rules that's written in black and white. Ridiculous nonsense. Chilwell's offside screenshot was taken when the ball already left Thiago's foot and was in the air instead of the exact moment of contact which is them doing it on purpose as well. They're really changing the game however they see fit with the use of this technology. Johnnyeye and Atomiswave 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Azul said: The Werner thing is ridiculous and they should change the rule, but it's still in the rules that the upper body part counts as being offside. So I can see where they were coming from with that. However what happened yesterday with the Tielemans goal is blatant robbery that went against their rules that's written in black and white. Ridiculous nonsense. Chilwell's offside screenshot was taken when the ball already left Thiago's foot and was in the air instead of the exact moment of contact which is them doing it on purpose as well. They're really changing the game however they see fit with the use of this technology. I usually don't complain much about refs but that was clear pen against Arsenal as well. After Mount shot. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 That was shite yesterday, we completely bottled that and you could just tell it was going to be their day and not ours. Every pundit wanted them to win and it felt like it was always going to be the case. I am so pissed off about how once again we never turned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Special Juan said: That was shite yesterday, we completely bottled that and you could just tell it was going to be their day and not ours. Every pundit wanted them to win and it felt like it was always going to be the case. I am so pissed off about how once again we never turned up. Yeah definitely..chance for them to win it first time and nice they did..just shame had to be at our expense! Soon as we had wide chances you knew how it was going Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Azul said: The Werner thing is ridiculous and they should change the rule, but it's still in the rules that the upper body part counts as being offside. So I can see where they were coming from with that. However what happened yesterday with the Tielemans goal is blatant robbery that went against their rules that's written in black and white. Ridiculous nonsense. Chilwell's offside screenshot was taken when the ball already left Thiago's foot and was in the air instead of the exact moment of contact which is them doing it on purpose as well. They're really changing the game however they see fit with the use of this technology. Eng footy is highly bent, I remember last season when we played pool at SB, we scored a perfectly good goal but wasnt allowed cuz some shit happened 30sec earlier, we will never get such calls in our favour. 15 minutes ago, Special Juan said: That was shite yesterday, we completely bottled that and you could just tell it was going to be their day and not ours. Every pundit wanted them to win and it felt like it was always going to be the case. I am so pissed off about how once again we never turned up. MAke no mistake this game was always gonna be an uphill battle from us not being super duper to every punidt celebrating them to refs fucking us over. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Johnnyeye said: VAR is the worst thing that happened to football, the fact that it can be so easily manipulated for the benefit of one team is disgusting. Football is dead Yet again I agree with you bruv, I thought that var was for goal line tech, but no! it's these ludicrous handball and offside rules is ruining football for me, get rid of this fucking VAR before it kills the game completely. This is not the game I fell in love with as child and for the last sixty years, another thing was what Platini wanted was he was head at UEFA to remove tackling, they want to kill everything that was the basis of our game. I am probably the only supporter of any club to go for ESL and tell UEFA go fuck themselves, they are a bunch of greedy incompetent fuck heads. Atomiswave and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said: Yet again I agree with you bruv, I thought that var was for goal line tech, but no! it's these ludicrous handball and offside rules is ruining football for me, get rid of this fucking VAR before it kills the game completely. This is not the game I fell in love with as child and for the last sixty years, another thing was what Platini wanted was he was head at UEFA to remove tackling, they want to kill everything that was the basis of our game. I am probably the only supporter of any club to go for ESL and tell UEFA go fuck themselves, they are a bunch of greedy incompetent fuck heads. the feeling of joy, excitement and euphoria when you score a late goal to equalize like we did yesterday is unique, only for that to be taken away immediately afterwards, thus breaking our hearts. because of a flawed and rigged technology, we end up losing because of that. fuck VAR Edited May 16, 2021 by Johnnyeye bigbluewillie and Atomiswave 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said: the feeling of joy, excitement and euphoria when you score a late goal to equalize like we did yesterday is unique, only for that to be taken away immediately afterwards, thus breaking our hearts. because of a flawed and rigged technology, we end up losing because of that. fuck VAR Football was never in need of playing with, they have changed everything for the worse. Footy is dead as a fair and competitive sport. bigbluewillie and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Azul said: The Werner thing is ridiculous and they should change the rule, but it's still in the rules that the upper body part counts as being offside. So I can see where they were coming from with that. Okay I don't 100% remember them but think there have been goals disallowed this season because the ball hit someone's upper body part along the way. All these dumb rules have been applied inconsistently. Was Silva (think it was him) not penalized for an accidental handball in the first half yesterday? What are the odds that we would have been penalized had we scored that Tielemans goal instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 40 minutes ago, Jas said: Okay I don't 100% remember them but think there have been goals disallowed this season because the ball hit someone's upper body part along the way. All these dumb rules have been applied inconsistently. Was Silva (think it was him) not penalized for an accidental handball in the first half yesterday? What are the odds that we would have been penalized had we scored that Tielemans goal instead? Chances are very high. The whole thing was strange yesterday, I mean the fact that the camera's was only on the Leicester fans speaks volumes. At one point I thought that Leicester fans were the only ones allowed in that stadium, seriously. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Azul said: Chances are very high. The whole thing was strange yesterday, I mean the fact that the camera's was only on the Leicester fans speaks volumes. At one point I thought that Leicester fans were the only ones allowed in that stadium, seriously. Tell me about it! They only started showing the Chelsea fans on camera after we conceded. They so wanted Leicester to win it! Blue Armour, Azul, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,274 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 FA Cup Final: Leicester hero Youri Tielemans reveals he was told by a friend to 'hit the top corner' | Daily Mail Online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Jas said: Okay I don't 100% remember them but think there have been goals disallowed this season because the ball hit someone's upper body part along the way. All these dumb rules have been applied inconsistently. Was Silva (think it was him) not penalized for an accidental handball in the first half yesterday? What are the odds that we would have been penalized had we scored that Tielemans goal instead? I would bet my house they would have disallowed it, 100% guarantee. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 The Dutch media (Ziggo Sport) just talked about how VAR ruined us yesterday, and ex-football players, Gullit and Van Basten have both said that Chilwell's goal wasn't offside because the screenshot was taken at the wrong time. They've said that the ball was in the air and the screenshot of the offside should've been taken when Silva had the first initial contact which is when the ball was on the ground. Even neutral football analysts are fuming at what happened. It's clear that the FA had something against us yesterday. This is why a part of me wanted The Super League to happen to fuck over UEFA and The FA, even though it's a scam it self. Atomiswave and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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