MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Didn't Werner mug off TAA a few times? Mount as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Azul said: I'm seeing a lot of ifs buts or maybes. Why didn't Trent make the same mistakes against us? The reason why is because we don't have the midfield quality Real has. The likes of Kroos and Modric are able to make ridiculous passes that made Liverpool capitulate. If you had chances to score 6 or 7 goals atleast while your opponent only had 1 chance to score then you're dominating. I don't know why you're not giving them the credit and just shit on Liverpools defenders. To say that you'd like to face Real over Liverpool is crazy in my opinion. Before this match everyone thought Liverpool would beat Real and qualify and I couldn't understand why. Now that Real destroyed them, people are still underestimating them. Weird stuff. This 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: Didn't Werner mug off TAA a few times? Mount as well? Yes the passes were good but a bit of pressure on the ball and Kroos doesn’t make them. Simple as that. Tbf they only had their 3 goals, one chance from another Liverpool mistake and maybe one or two half chances. Wouldn’t say they had 6 or 7 big chances. Liverpool also had a decent couple of chances, one that required some excellent defending from Varane and then Farlan Mendy. Real are a good team but have shown huge inconsistencies for the last 2/3 seasons plus have multiple ageing players who I think with some of our younger players and a bit of luck (which all teams need in the CL also) we could definitely give them a good game and shock then. I think Liverpool would be the worse opposition for us out of the two in all reality because they know us better and would probably be better suited to playing us than Real are tbf because Real aren’t really a high intensity pressing team either, they are a bit more pragmatic with Zidane. Liverpool may have a worse defence than Real in comparison to Ramos and Varane but I think bar Benzema, most would say Mane and Salah start at Real over the guys they have (Eden included right now because hes been shite for Real). Their MF is obviously superior technically but physically they also struggle at times and they look a bit leggy. Plus Kroos and Modric aren’t as interested in the combative stuff going back the way unlike Wijnaldum, Thiago, Henderson, Fabinho etc are. I still think if Liverpool get off to an an early goal tonight they have every chance of going through so hopefully Real do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Laylabelle 9,535 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Pizy said: Yeah, I really want to avoid either English team. As sweet as it is to beat one of your rivals in Europe it’s also much tougher to take if you lose. So I’d rather avoid. And it feels even worse!!! Dont want to give them bragging rights...again if it should happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Anyone else feel Real Madrid would've struggled here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: This Yes the passes were good but a bit of pressure on the ball and Kroos doesn’t make them. Simple as that. Tbf they only had their 3 goals, one chance from another Liverpool mistake and maybe one or two half chances. Wouldn’t say they had 6 or 7 big chances. Liverpool also had a decent couple of chances, one that required some excellent defending from Varane and then Farlan Mendy. Real are a good team but have shown huge inconsistencies for the last 2/3 seasons plus have multiple ageing players who I think with some of our younger players and a bit of luck (which all teams need in the CL also) we could definitely give them a good game and shock then. I think Liverpool would be the worse opposition for us out of the two in all reality because they know us better and would probably be better suited to playing us than Real are tbf because Real aren’t really a high intensity pressing team either, they are a bit more pragmatic with Zidane. Liverpool may have a worse defence than Real in comparison to Ramos and Varane but I think bar Benzema, most would say Mane and Salah start at Real over the guys they have (Eden included right now because hes been shite for Real). Their MF is obviously superior technically but physically they also struggle at times and they look a bit leggy. Plus Kroos and Modric aren’t as interested in the combative stuff going back the way unlike Wijnaldum, Thiago, Henderson, Fabinho etc are. I still think if Liverpool get off to an an early goal tonight they have every chance of going through so hopefully Real do. Firstly, Varane didn't even play, Militao and Nacho did. Secondly you're using a lot of hypotheticals, let's deal with the facts. Liverpool didn't have a single shot on target in the first half if I remember correctly, and in the second half they weren't effective except for that flukey deflected ball that came at Salahs feet. Real have shown inconsistencies and the loss against Ajax in 2019 was embarrassing, however they didn't have Zidane and Ronaldo who've left them the season before. That heavily affected them. Afterwards, Zidane came back and he did alright by winning the league, and he got knocked out by City fair enough. However things could've been much different had Ramos played those games. If you seriously think Real is an easier game than this Liverpool team who aren't tactically flexible at all, then I'm afraid your football knowledge is not good at all. Why would you want to face Zidane who's very tactically flexible instead of Klopp who you know is going to play the same formation and tactics every single game? Add to that Real have a much better team from front to back. Mane has been shite this season, and you can even ask Liverpool fans about that. I honestly fear Vini more than Mane. Jota and Salah are good but I think the combination of Vini-Benzema-Asensio is better than Liverpools front three. Real's midfield is miles better, and I hope you have the sense to agree with me on that. Lastly, Real's defence of Mendy-Ramos-Varane-Nacho/Odriozola is miles better the Liverpools current defence. The reason why I named Ramos is because he might face us, Varane as well. Edited April 14, 2021 by Azul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,325 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 After Benzema who has 25 goals best goalscorer in Real has 6 goals this season. So you stop him and not much danger left there. Vini and Asensio are good lately but I think our great defense with 5 players would be too much for them. We just need our offensive players to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 As expected, it is Real v Chelsea in the semis. So exciting! ZAPHOD2319 and Muzchap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Azul said: Firstly, Varane didn't even play, Militao and Nacho did. Secondly you're using a lot of hypotheticals, let's deal with the facts. Liverpool didn't have a single shot on target in the first half if I remember correctly, and in the second half they weren't effective except for that flukey deflected ball that came at Salahs feet. Real have shown inconsistencies and the loss against Ajax in 2019 was embarrassing, however they didn't have Zidane and Ronaldo who've left them the season before. That heavily affected them. Afterwards, Zidane came back and he did alright by winning the league, and he got knocked out by City fair enough. However things could've been much different had Ramos played those games. If you seriously think Real is an easier game than this Liverpool team who aren't tactically flexible at all, then I'm afraid your football knowledge is not good at all. Why would you want to face Zidane who's very tactically flexible instead of Klopp who you know is going to play the same formation and tactics every single game? Add to that Real have a much better team from front to back. Mane has been shite this season, and you can even ask Liverpool fans about that. I honestly fear Vini more than Mane. Jota and Salah are good but I think the combination of Vini-Benzema-Asensio is better than Liverpools front three. Real's midfield is miles better, and I hope you have the sense to agree with me on that. Lastly, Real's defence of Mendy-Ramos-Varane-Nacho/Odriozola is miles better the Liverpools current defence. The reason why I named Ramos is because he might face us, Varane as well. I will be honest mate I think youve got a cheek 🤣 If it wasnt Varane it was maybe Nacho or Militao then. And how is Real’s domination and performance tonight? They're hit the post and Vinicus had a good chance but 2 shots on target as it stands and look like they have the know how but hardly special either, just solid. As I said before with Zidane this time round, they’ve became more pragmatic and if they want to sit off us and let us play against them then I’d rather that than Liverpool if they had their intensity. Granted Real are 3-1 up on aggregate but they’ve been much more organised under Zidane than they were when they had Ronaldo his first spell and their hardly this amazing team your making them out to be. Fear Vini more than Mane and Salah? Both who have good records of scoring against us more or less every game or second game whenever we play them? Other than the CL how many times have you watched Vinicius? Or Rodrygo? If you’ve watched them outside of the game last week you’d know their end product isnt consistent and thats why their starts are staggered also. They have got potential but there is no doubt Mane and Salah are much better players. Would agree Benzema is better than what they have in a 9 but Benzema is better than a huge amount of the strikers still playing and has been for years. Asensio as well is decent but hes never hit the heights since he broke onto the scene with Real and isnt better than those 2. We have Real now anyway more or less so we will see but I think its not as bad as people will think. We just need our attacking players to show up. They have the experience but honestly think if we play with the same intensity we seen v Atletico it will be close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: I will be honest mate I think youve got a cheek 🤣 If it wasnt Varane it was maybe Nacho or Militao then. And how is Real’s domination and performance tonight? They're hit the post and Vinicus had a good chance but 2 shots on target as it stands and look like they have the know how but hardly special either, just solid. As I said before with Zidane this time round, they’ve became more pragmatic and if they want to sit off us and let us play against them then I’d rather that than Liverpool if they had their intensity. Granted Real are 3-1 up on aggregate but they’ve been much more organised under Zidane than they were when they had Ronaldo his first spell and their hardly this amazing team your making them out to be. Fear Vini more than Mane and Salah? Both who have good records of scoring against us more or less every game or second game whenever we play them? Other than the CL how many times have you watched Vinicius? Or Rodrygo? If you’ve watched them outside of the game last week you’d know their end product isnt consistent and thats why their starts are staggered also. They have got potential but there is no doubt Mane and Salah are much better players. Would agree Benzema is better than what they have in a 9 but Benzema is better than a huge amount of the strikers still playing and has been for years. Asensio as well is decent but hes never hit the heights since he broke onto the scene with Real and isnt better than those 2. We have Real now anyway more or less so we will see but I think its not as bad as people will think. We just need our attacking players to show up. They have the experience but honestly think if we play with the same intensity we seen v Atletico it will be close. Why do you make it seem like I claimed that Madrid will dominate today? They're away with a 2 goal lead and will obviously sit back and defend. Again when I mentioned that Real's forward line being better than Liverpools, I base it on form this season. Is that so hard to understand? Mane has been absolute dogshit this season, as he was against us when we won at Anfield. So yes, Vinicius is currently more threatening than Mane right now. Salah is a beast but he himself can't carry the whole attack as you've seen today, he did miss chances as well. Everything I've said about Real is not to say we're fucked, because I honestly believe it's a 50-50 game. I just cringe when people make us heavy favourites though. Same thing happened when people were making Liverpool favourites. All I'm saying is that we should be wary, and give them respect because they're a very good side. Could we win? Yes, I believe we will edge it because of our defensive set up. However it's a 50-50 game and anything can happen. Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Azul said: Why do you make it seem like I claimed that Madrid will dominate today? They're away with a 2 goal lead and will obviously sit back and defend. Again when I mentioned that Real's forward line being better than Liverpools, I base it on form this season. Is that so hard to understand? Mane has been absolute dogshit this season, as he was against us when we won at Anfield. So yes, Vinicius is currently more threatening than Mane right now. Salah is a beast but he himself can't carry the whole attack as you've seen today, he did miss chances as well. Everything I've said about Real is not to say we're fucked, because I honestly believe it's a 50-50 game. I just cringe when people make us heavy favourites though. Same thing happened when people were making Liverpool favourites. All I'm saying is that we should be wary, and give them respect because they're a very good side. Could we win? Yes, I believe we will edge it because of our defensive set up. However it's a 50-50 game and anything can happen. Agree its 50/50. It's in our hands. It's winnable and it's not an automatic steamroller by the opposition. Please please please let us find our shooting boots 👍 bigbluewillie and Azul 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) If we can beat the best team in UCL Real Madrid we can beat City/PSG in the final . Edited April 14, 2021 by milka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 On review Madrid’s defending in the first half sucked balls. Liverpool had 4 clear cut chances a CL team should be expected to score. If we can avoid being this wasteful w shave a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,874 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Fernando, Blue Armour and bigbluewillie 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,325 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Why not some fans tho? FA Cup second semi final and Carabao Cup final will have some fans. This game is after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 9 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Why not some fans tho? FA Cup second semi final and Carabao Cup final will have some fans. This game is after. My thoughts exactly. However, we aren't the Dippers so we won't have the media demanding that fans return as obviously Dipper fans are so well behaved and nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 So many stories in this Chelsea vs Real Madrid tie - First time we’ve played each other in the UCL - - Hazard coming back to the bridge - Courtois returning - - Mateo Kovacic playing his old team - Giroud vs Benzema - Kart vs F1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Ver very diappointed with the result, thought we had done enough 'til that freak shinner goal, so we lost the tie. That is now in the last four games won two lost two, lose to Shitty Saturday and thats lost three won two of the last five games, that for me is totally unacceptable. As for Real in spite of having Ramos and Varane missing still solid at the back and they will be available for the semi's And as for the ageing midfield as i though they were, they still look impressive, this aint gonna be as easy as I first thought, I say easy but what I mean is we could be quietly confident about reaching the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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