closed Southampton 1-1 Chelsea

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  On 20/02/2021 at 13:20, MoroccanBlue said:

It isn’t lack of movement. It isn’t that we are static. Our decision making in the final third is simply championship level atm. 

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yes, it been shambolic once we get within 10 metres of the box

[Azul 1,615]

  On 20/02/2021 at 13:16, OhForAGreavsie said:

I sometimes feel the word 'better' isn't enough to transmit the whole story. I often prefer to talk about player A being more 'talented' than player B, or about player A being more 'effective' than player B. Talent speaks of a player's technical quality, of what he can do. Effectiveness speaks about what he actually does. If we could get an honest public comment from TT I wonder if he would say that he agrees Hakim is more talented but that he believes Mason will be more effective overall. I'm not saying that is my opinion but there is a reason why TT is preferring Mason and I wonder if that might be it.

 

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The reason is form, and that is the only of reason why Mount starts. If you believe that Mount is better than an in-form Ziyech then you're deluded. Ziyech is by far our best attacker/midfielder, the things he has done with Ajax in the CL is something that none of these players have achieved. Ziyech in good form is basically world class, while Mount is good. The difference in both of their ceilings is astronomical

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  On 20/02/2021 at 13:22, ZAPHOD2319 said:

That left side was so open for the first 30 minutes and we could not do anything about it.

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because of alonso obviously

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  On 20/02/2021 at 13:16, lucio said:

Kante is awful 

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He should have been sold before the start of last season. Not because he's bad but because we've seen over and over again that our squad doesn't support a really effective set up with him in the side, and because summer 2019 was the time to maximise his market value.

Edited February 20, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie

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  On 20/02/2021 at 13:17, Pizy said:

Southampton have been wide open and totally unable to defend for ages. And yet we can’t exploit that at all because none of our midfielders can play creative, piercing passes. Not Kante, not Mount, not Kova. 
 

We’re playing right into their hands.

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Looks like they are playing a much deeper line today because of all those defeats. But yeah, this defense wont be unlocked by the midfield we have right now. Need a few changes. Lets see if Tuchel is the anti-Lampard and doesn't wait till the 65th minute for changes

[Muzchap 8,966]

  On 20/02/2021 at 13:21, Pizy said:

I’d replace Mount with Ziyech at the half. Kante has been winning the ball back like a machine and Kova at least keeps things ticking over. Mason has offered nothing at all here yet.

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Uh?

Azpi offers fuck all. Remove him. Or take Reece off and bring on CHO

Tammy needs to go- I have seen drunk people with better ball control 

[King Kante 1,557]

Zouma's positioning was absolutely shocking for their goal. As I have said elsewhere, AC is really the only one that can play the CCB role when Silva is out as Zouma and Rudi get caught he poor positions and do not read the game well enough. 

As for the second half, we are going to need to get Ziyech and CHO on as we are far too static at the moment as Kova, Mount and Werner are the only ones moving off the ball properly. 

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  On 20/02/2021 at 13:24, King Kante said:

Zouma's positioning was absolutely shocking for their goal. As I have said elsewhere, AC is really the only one that can play the CCB role when Silva is out as Zouma and Rudi get caught he poor positions and do not read the game well enough. 

As for the second half, we are going to need to get Ziyech and CHO on as we are far too static at the moment as Kova, Mount and Werner are the only ones moving off the ball properly. 

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But what is our midfield doing before that? Kante is not attacking their midfielder

[MoroccanBlue 5,322]

I love Mount but personally he has no place in this set up. 

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Another game where we dominate possession but still lacking ideas in final third. For first time in Tuchel era, we are a goal down. No need for three CB. Take one of them off, go to a back four and bring Ziyech on please.

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  On 20/02/2021 at 13:23, Muzchap said:

Tammy needs to go- I have seen drunk people with better ball control

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🤪 Honestly he's a Palace player at best. He aint no Drogba.....

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Next time, Kante would get a red. Better replace him by Jorginho. And bring Ziyech, CHO or even Havertz.

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Let's see what we can do now...hopefully not go 2 down cause don't think be coming back from that

[Pizy 18,541]

  On 20/02/2021 at 13:23, Muzchap said:

Uh?

Azpi offers fuck all. Remove him. Or take Reece off and bring on CHO

Tammy needs to go- I have seen drunk people with better ball control 

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I’ve said repeatedly that I don’t like Azpi or Tammy playing. But they aren’t the primary cause of our issues today for me. Well, Tammy is in part. 
 

Our issue is being clueless when we get near the opposing box. 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,910]

  On 20/02/2021 at 13:23, Azul said:

The reason is form, and that is the only of reason why Mount starts. If you believe that Mount is better than an in-form Ziyech then you're deluded. Ziyech is by far our best attacker/midfielder, the things he has done with Ajax in the CL is something that none of these players have achieved. Ziyech in good form is basically world class, while Mount is good. The difference in both of their ceilings is astronomical

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I haven't offered an opinion on the players so you can't make any assessment on my view from that post. I have written on Mason numerous times previously.

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  On 20/02/2021 at 13:24, King Kante said:

Zouma's positioning was absolutely shocking for their goal. As I have said elsewhere, AC is really the only one that can play the CCB role when Silva is out as Zouma and Rudi get caught he poor positions and do not read the game well enough. 

As for the second half, we are going to need to get Ziyech and CHO on as we are far too static at the moment as Kova, Mount and Werner are the only ones moving off the ball properly. 

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spot on m8, spot on, was just going to type the same after watching Joe Cole break it all down

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  On 20/02/2021 at 13:25, killer1257 said:

But what is our midfield doing before that? Kante is not attacking their midfielder

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He could've pressed the ball a bit more, but you're not expecting your CCB to be taking up that position. It was laughable he allowed a simple forward pass completely to take him out because he has yet again failed to stick to his correct position. 

As I have been saying in the AC thread, it is all great when Zouma pulls off tackles like he did against Palace last year, but the reason he has to do it is because he gets caught out from not doing the basics properly which means either this happens or he has to do risky challenges like that one. That isn't good defending.

Edited February 20, 2021 by King Kante

[Azul 1,615]

  On 20/02/2021 at 13:30, OhForAGreavsie said:

I haven't offered an opinion on the players so you can't make any assessment on my view from that post. I have written on Mason numerous times previously.

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I was writing personally saying you're deluded, but any fan that believes Mount and Ziyech are on the same level when in-form. My bad for causing the confusion bro.