Pizy 18,952 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I’d replace Mount with Ziyech at the half. Kante has been winning the ball back like a machine and Kova at least keeps things ticking over. Mason has offered nothing at all here yet. 0007 and killer1257 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Kante is showing why he is by far the highest earner at 300k a week. Broke them up so many times, but the final third -abysmally slow on what the aim of the game is. Stick it in the fucking onion bag ! That Liverpool bastard gets one chance and has animal cunning to put it away Muzchap and Atomiswave 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said: It isn’t lack of movement. It isn’t that we are static. Our decision making in the final third is simply championship level atm. Because we give their defenders time to get comfortable. Tammy basically falls over his own legs - what threat is that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 That left side was so open for the first 30 minutes and we could not do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: It isn’t lack of movement. It isn’t that we are static. Our decision making in the final third is simply championship level atm. yes, it been shambolic once we get within 10 metres of the box Fulham Broadway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: I sometimes feel the word 'better' isn't enough to transmit the whole story. I often prefer to talk about player A being more 'talented' than player B, or about player A being more 'effective' than player B. Talent speaks of a player's technical quality, of what he can do. Effectiveness speaks about what he actually does. If we could get an honest public comment from TT I wonder if he would say that he agrees Hakim is more talented but that he believes Mason will be more effective overall. I'm not saying that is my opinion but there is a reason why TT is preferring Mason and I wonder if that might be it. The reason is form, and that is the only of reason why Mount starts. If you believe that Mount is better than an in-form Ziyech then you're deluded. Ziyech is by far our best attacker/midfielder, the things he has done with Ajax in the CL is something that none of these players have achieved. Ziyech in good form is basically world class, while Mount is good. The difference in both of their ceilings is astronomical CBabayaro, 0007, killer1257 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, ZAPHOD2319 said: That left side was so open for the first 30 minutes and we could not do anything about it. because of alonso obviously killer1257, Muzchap and TurboTimo1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lucio said: Kante is awful He should have been sold before the start of last season. Not because he's bad but because we've seen over and over again that our squad doesn't support a really effective set up with him in the side, and because summer 2019 was the time to maximise his market value. Edited February 20, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie CBabayaro, lucio, killer1257 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pizy said: Southampton have been wide open and totally unable to defend for ages. And yet we can’t exploit that at all because none of our midfielders can play creative, piercing passes. Not Kante, not Mount, not Kova. We’re playing right into their hands. Looks like they are playing a much deeper line today because of all those defeats. But yeah, this defense wont be unlocked by the midfield we have right now. Need a few changes. Lets see if Tuchel is the anti-Lampard and doesn't wait till the 65th minute for changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Pizy said: I’d replace Mount with Ziyech at the half. Kante has been winning the ball back like a machine and Kova at least keeps things ticking over. Mason has offered nothing at all here yet. Uh? Azpi offers fuck all. Remove him. Or take Reece off and bring on CHO Tammy needs to go- I have seen drunk people with better ball control Fulham Broadway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Zouma's positioning was absolutely shocking for their goal. As I have said elsewhere, AC is really the only one that can play the CCB role when Silva is out as Zouma and Rudi get caught he poor positions and do not read the game well enough. As for the second half, we are going to need to get Ziyech and CHO on as we are far too static at the moment as Kova, Mount and Werner are the only ones moving off the ball properly. Azul, 0007, TurboTimo1 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, King Kante said: Zouma's positioning was absolutely shocking for their goal. As I have said elsewhere, AC is really the only one that can play the CCB role when Silva is out as Zouma and Rudi get caught he poor positions and do not read the game well enough. As for the second half, we are going to need to get Ziyech and CHO on as we are far too static at the moment as Kova, Mount and Werner are the only ones moving off the ball properly. But what is our midfield doing before that? Kante is not attacking their midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I love Mount but personally he has no place in this set up. killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Another game where we dominate possession but still lacking ideas in final third. For first time in Tuchel era, we are a goal down. No need for three CB. Take one of them off, go to a back four and bring Ziyech on please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Muzchap said: Tammy needs to go- I have seen drunk people with better ball control 🤪 Honestly he's a Palace player at best. He aint no Drogba..... Muzchap and TurboTimo1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXL70 396 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Next time, Kante would get a red. Better replace him by Jorginho. And bring Ziyech, CHO or even Havertz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Let's see what we can do now...hopefully not go 2 down cause don't think be coming back from that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Muzchap said: Uh? Azpi offers fuck all. Remove him. Or take Reece off and bring on CHO Tammy needs to go- I have seen drunk people with better ball control I’ve said repeatedly that I don’t like Azpi or Tammy playing. But they aren’t the primary cause of our issues today for me. Well, Tammy is in part. Our issue is being clueless when we get near the opposing box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Azul said: The reason is form, and that is the only of reason why Mount starts. If you believe that Mount is better than an in-form Ziyech then you're deluded. Ziyech is by far our best attacker/midfielder, the things he has done with Ajax in the CL is something that none of these players have achieved. Ziyech in good form is basically world class, while Mount is good. The difference in both of their ceilings is astronomical I haven't offered an opinion on the players so you can't make any assessment on my view from that post. I have written on Mason numerous times previously. Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, King Kante said: Zouma's positioning was absolutely shocking for their goal. As I have said elsewhere, AC is really the only one that can play the CCB role when Silva is out as Zouma and Rudi get caught he poor positions and do not read the game well enough. As for the second half, we are going to need to get Ziyech and CHO on as we are far too static at the moment as Kova, Mount and Werner are the only ones moving off the ball properly. spot on m8, spot on, was just going to type the same after watching Joe Cole break it all down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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