The Tuchel Thread

[Atomiswave 6,072]

Legend

[ZAPHOD2319 4,519]

On 01/06/2021 at 14:35, Vesper said:

It was the fucking septics putting pressure on us to block his renewal. The yanks put him on a global list of major Putin allies to be banned and hounded as much as possible. The 'Murican press is obsessed with him as he is so famous for owning Chelsea and then all his (ironically) charity, art, and fighting anti-Semitism stuffs.

I got into huge online brawls in a huge Democratic yank political chatboard, as in the football section I mentioned I was a lifelong Chels girl. Holy fuck did the reactionary anti-Russian crew go full blast in me. A mixture of yanks and Brits and some Canucks with a smidge of other euros.

This one fucking bellend is a halfie yank/ woolly back scouser from the Wirral. Massive Pool cunt and even larger Russian hater (even before Trump and all that). He had a massive go at me, accused me of being a paid Russian online activist (I asked him where is my cheque, lol) and a TRAITOR. WTF! I was almost booted from the board, as an admin told me that cunt was going crazy for days PMing owners and all the admins to ban me, all over a fucking football team I love and  was born and grew up around a mile or so from. He was far from the only hostile one either, just the most aggressive. Fucking madness.

It is odd that American press is obsessed with him and the only time I have heard his name mentioned is as the owner of Chelsea, his involvement in the charity event with the New England Revolution? Im not sure what obsession there is?  I am not a fan of Trump at all, but Trump seemed to admire Putin. 

[Vesper 29,022]

1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

It is odd that American press is obsessed with him and the only time I have heard his name mentioned is as the owner of Chelsea, his involvement in the charity event with the New England Revolution? Im not sure what obsession there is?  I am not a fan of Trump at all, but Trump seemed to admire Putin. 

Trump only admires dictators and thuggish strongmen, look at his history of ball-cupping and ass-licking of Kim Jong-un, Putin, Erdoğan, Duterte in the Philippines, Lukashenko,  Bolsonaro, Modi, Orban, the Saudi head hoppers, Netanyahu, etc.

Putin is hated in the US because Russia actively worked to flip the 2016 and 2020 elections for Trump, plus cause general chaos by getting the main power groups to go at it hard. Most all of Trump's inner circle were actively and treasonously directly involved with Kremlin or indirectly with its cut-outs. Some of Trump's own core were Russian agents and/or high-ranking security officers themselves, like Konstantin Kilimnik.

[Beigl 1,387]

Contract extension for Tuchel. Extended by two years.  😎

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2021/06/04/contract-extension-for-thomas-tuchel?cardIndex=0-0

 

Edited June 4, 2021 by Beigl

[NikkiCFC 8,058]

Finally Marina with trophy! 

[Jase 43,479]

Tuchel with everyone's favorite lady - Marina Granovskaia 🤣

Whoever wrote that even threw a shade at PSG at the end - "Unlike the previous season with Paris Saint-Germain, Tuchel led the Blues to a historic victory to lift our second Champions League trophy."

[OneMoSalah 8,785]

Well deserved.

Even if we didn’t win the CL, he would of got a renewal though for the work he had done in a short space transforming a lacklustre team into something that was at least playing close to the capability of what it should based on the players there.

[Magic Lamps 11,668]

16 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Well deserved.

Even if we didn’t win the CL, he would of got a renewal though for the work he had done in a short space transforming a lacklustre team into something that was at least playing close to the capability of what it should based on the players there.

Maybe but not on his current contract. The CL win triggered those extra 2 years.

Honestly, I do not really care if new contract or extension but I guess TT would have been in a good position to renegotiate the terms this summer. So good  job from his agent/manager and Marina to think this far ahead and put the elongation clause in it way back in Winter.

[Atomiswave 6,072]

Get in, he is integral to this team and players. When was the last time you saw such bond and brotherhood between all the players? Proper.

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

Think we were a little premature here. 

Obviously I love and rate the man, but on a financial aspect I would've told Tuchel he has the summer with our backing in terms of transfers. We see progression next season, he will be given an extension that January 2022. 

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Think we were a little premature here. 

Obviously I love and rate the man, but on a financial aspect I would've told Tuchel he has the summer with our backing in terms of transfers. We see progression next season, he will be given an extension that January 2022. 

It works both ways though, if he continues being a success to the degree he already has, and goes into the last 6 months of his deal we could leave ourselves far more open to losing him if a Madrid or Barca came in for him.

[Artandur 939]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Think we were a little premature here. 

Obviously I love and rate the man, but on a financial aspect I would've told Tuchel he has the summer with our backing in terms of transfers. We see progression next season, he will be given an extension that January 2022. 

Nothing premature about it, the cl win triggered an automatic extension anyways. It even says so on the website.

[DH1988 1,310]

If it doesn’t work, then we will sack him and win the CL with the interim manager 🤪

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

3 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Get in, he is integral to this team and players. When was the last time you saw such bond and brotherhood between all the players? Proper.

TT's new deal, and the feel good factor gives CFC a big opportunity to get the club back on track. The club has made it clear that it plans to recruit but it's more important than ever that we get it right. However many moves we make this summer they must all hit the target. Wasting the budget would be bad enough but we've done that before. Get this right and we can re-establish ourselves at the top table of European football. What is more do it with more good will flowing towards CFC than at any time in the last fifty years.

In addition to getting the recruitment right, I hope TT will have the chance to work with Mando before any new loan is considered. In an ideal world he would also get a look at Lewis Bate and Tino Livramento before they go on loan though, if their loan clubs want the lads to spend preseason with them however that would be understandable.

There also needs to be an important meeting involving Neil Bath, Joe Edwards and others concerning Tino Anjorin. Next season will be the last chance to set Tino back on an upward trajectory. At the moment he is following the RLC path; bags of talent, but too little impact. To be fair to Tino A he is producing more than Ruben did at this stage of his career but it isn't enough. I'm a little less worried about Tino than I was about RLC but I find myself facing the same concern. Namely that Tino will not make it here unless he finds a way to produce a more consistent impact on football matches. It tends to be the ridiculously brilliant or nothing with him. With far too much of the nothing.

Edited June 4, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie

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46 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

TT's new deal, and the feel good factor gives CFC a big opportunity to get the club back on track. The club has made it clear that it plans to recruit but it's more important than ever that we get it right. However many moves we make this summer they must all hit the target. Wasting the budget would be bad enough but we've done that before. Get this right and we can re-establish ourselves at the top table of European football. What is more do it with more good will flowing towards CFC than at any time in the last fifty years.

In addition to getting the recruitment right, I hope TT will have the chance to work with Mando before any new loan is considered. In an ideal world he would also get a look at Lewis Bate and Tino Livramento before they go on loan though, if their loan clubs want the lads to spend preseason with them however that would be understandable.

There also needs to be an important meeting involving Neil Bath, Joe Edwards and others concerning Tino Anjorin. Next season will be the last chance to set Tino back on an upward trajectory. At the moment he is following the RLC path; bags of talent, but too little impact. To be fair to Tino A he is producing more than Ruben did at this stage of his career but it isn't enough. I'm a little less worried about Tino than I was about RLC but I find myself facing the same concern. Namely that Tino will not make it here unless he finds a way to produce a more consistent impact on football matches. It tends to be the ridiculously brilliant or nothing with him. With far too much of the nothing.

Lets hope for the best brother....yeah most def need to do this proper, no more shit show like 17-18 with Conte. Buy quality not quantity.

3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Think we were a little premature here. 

Obviously I love and rate the man, but on a financial aspect I would've told Tuchel he has the summer with our backing in terms of transfers. We see progression next season, he will be given an extension that January 2022. 

Progress? you havent seen enough already? Clear progress has been at display since day 1, nahh he more than deserves this deal. He would have been snatched up for sure if he wasnt here.

Edited June 4, 2021 by Atomiswave

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

1 minute ago, Atomiswave said:

Progress? you havent seen enough already? Clear progress has been at display since day 1, nahh he more than deserves this deal. He would have been snatched up for sure if he wasnt here.

We saw progress with DiMatteo. We saw progress with Conte. We even saw progress with Lampard. 

Second season syndrome seems to be common theme with us. 26 million we had to pay out to Conte and his staff, to which Tuchel has a similar habit of going against the club. I also have a worry that our football will grow stale considering the pragmatic approach we see at times. 

I don't know, I would've much rather preferred a contract that shows an automatic extension should we see positive signs come January 2022. 

 

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1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

We saw progress with DiMatteo. We saw progress with Conte. We even saw progress with Lampard. 

Second season syndrome seems to be common theme with us. 26 million we had to pay out to Conte and his staff, to which Tuchel has a similar habit of going against the club. I also have a worry that our football will grow stale considering the pragmatic approach we see at times. 

I don't know, I would've much rather preferred a contract that shows an automatic extension should we see positive signs come January 2022. 

 

I see your point I really do but context is needed mate, he is world class and has under no time totally transformed us. We will be better next season but he needs backing, he deserves it. Dimatteo I didnt see progress in tactics etc, just a bunch of legends ready to win the CL, TT is far far superior to RD and Lampard.

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Just now, Atomiswave said:

I see your point I really do but context is needed mate, he is world class and has under no time totally transformed us. We will be better next season but he needs backing, he deserves it. Dimatteo I didnt see progress in tactics etc, just a bunch of legends ready to win the CL, TT is far far superior to RD and Lampard.

The only thing that has me slightly less worried is that we look to take the initiative under Tuchel compared to Conte. That and how good he is tactically. I know some German fans actually rate Tuchel higher than Klopp purely because of that.