The Tuchel Thread

[Milan 17,853]

On 05/05/2021 at 22:59, Mana said:

Win the CL TT, then you become a Chelsea legend simple as.

You ready to call him that now?

[MoroccanBlue 5,297]

Going to be an interesting summer on what he feels needs to be strengthened within the team. The more I think about it, the more I feel Sancho should be a priority. Particularly if CHO is willing to leave to Dortmund. We can create loads, but converting is questionable. You'd assume we'd improve on this matter, given the issue is collective. Adding Sancho who is a proven goal scorer can help, particularly if he is at the end of most chances. 

It is a massive gamble going into next season with no ST, but I think Sancho can help us tremendously. 

Havertz

Mount-----------Sancho 

Chilwell-------Tchouameni----Aouar------James

Rudiger----Christensen----Lacroix

Mendy

 

Werner

Pulisic--------Ziyech

LWB------Kovacic----Kante-----Dave

Guehi------Silva----Christensen

GK

 

 

[NikkiCFC 7,949]

You want us to be weaker next season? You just added 3 young French lads to starting 11 who proved nothing yet. I imagine they would struggle to get place on bench especially next season when we are back to 7 subs.

[edetarod 2,155]

Terrible manager, couldn't even do better than Di Matteo

[MoroccanBlue 5,297]

8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

You want us to be weaker next season? You just added 3 young French lads to starting 11 who proved nothing yet. I imagine they would struggle to get place on bench especially next season when we are back to 7 subs.

Tchouameni is a fair point but Aouar? He's already proven his quality. There will be an all out brawl for his signature. 

[NikkiCFC 7,949]

9 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Tchouameni is a fair point but Aouar? He's already proven his quality. There will be an all out brawl for his signature. 

Aouar is more like Mount tbh. Number 8, cant see him in double pivot.

There is a reason why Rabiot, Sissoko, Lemar and Tolisso are in French NT and he is not. Btw they all are nothing special, actually some of them very average.

Plus what is his price tag? Just 30m. He will end up in Arsenal or something like that. I rated him much more 2 years ago.

[Vesper 28,796]

19 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

You want us to be weaker next season? You just added 3 young French lads to starting 11 who proved nothing yet. I imagine they would struggle to get place on bench especially next season when we are back to 7 subs.

we have no players on the main team nor out on loan that are like Aurélien Tchouaméni or Houssem Aouar

the price will never be lower for either until they start yo age out, which is not for ages as they are both young (but NOT youth, so perfect time to buy)

I live and breathe the transfer market, and these would be two superb buys for the price it will take

I really want Camavinga, BUT it is madness to drop 100m euros, if Rennes doesn't come down on price

[Jase 43,479]

14 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Tchouameni is a fair point but Aouar? He's already proven his quality. There will be an all out brawl for his signature. 

 

1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said:

Aouar is more like Mount tbh. Number 8, cant see him in double pivot.

There is a reason why Rabiot, Sissoko, Lemar and Tolisso are in French NT and he is not. Btw they all are nothing special, actually some of them very average.

Plus what is his price tag? Just 30m. He will end up in Arsenal or something like that. I rated him much more 2 years ago.

Have we even been linked with Aouar?

Also can't see Tuchel getting rid of Jorginho when he wanted him at PSG and seems to rate him a lot. 

[Tomo 21,733]

Here's a million dollar question.

If he wins a PL title with us becoming the first Chelsea manager to do both then does Jose get knocked down to number two?

Edited May 30, 2021 by Tomo

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Here's a million dollar question.

If he wins a PL title with us becoming  the first Chelsea manager to do both then does Jose get knocked down to number two?

As that old man once said:

"When they have somebody who wins four Premier Leagues for them, I'll be No 2. For this moment, 'Judas' is No 1"

🤪

[R2D2 368]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Going to be an interesting summer on what he feels needs to be strengthened within the team. The more I think about it, the more I feel Sancho should be a priority. Particularly if CHO is willing to leave to Dortmund. We can create loads, but converting is questionable. You'd assume we'd improve on this matter, given the issue is collective. Adding Sancho who is a proven goal scorer can help, particularly if he is at the end of most chances. 

It is a massive gamble going into next season with no ST, but I think Sancho can help us tremendously. 

Havertz

Mount-----------Sancho 

Chilwell-------Tchouameni----Aouar------James

Rudiger----Christensen----Lacroix

Mendy

 

Werner

Pulisic--------Ziyech

LWB------Kovacic----Kante-----Dave

Guehi------Silva----Christensen

GK

 

 

With Jorginho unlikely to leave doubt we can get Aouar, as for Lacroix dunno hope it's Marquinhos but hard to get.

Sancho and Tchouameni are absolute must get though.

Edited May 30, 2021 by R2D2

[Tomo 21,733]

26 minutes ago, Jas said:

As that old man once said:

"When they have somebody who wins four Premier Leagues for them, I'll be No 2. For this moment, 'Judas' is No 1"

🤪

Yes but I guess it will boil down to just how much strength you put on UCL.

[Vesper 28,796]

I will not at all freak out if we do not sign Aouar

but starting to get that way with Aurélien Tchouaméni (unless we grab Camavinga)

[Jase 43,479]

15 minutes ago, R2D2 said:

With Jorginho unlikely to leave doubt we can get Aouar, as for Lacroix dunno hope it's Marquinhos but hard to get.

Sancho and Tchouameni are absolute must get though.

I don't see how we would get Sancho without CHO and/or Ziyech leaving. 

Going into the season with just Havertz and Werner as the striker options is asking a lot - one would suspect Tuchel would also use them a lot together - and none of the other attackers are capable of playing as a False 9.

Think we'll get a new striker, just don't think it'll be a big name one but a striker nonetheless to fit into Tuchel's system.

[Jase 43,479]

7 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Yes but I guess it will boil down to just how much strength you put on UCL.

I was half joking with that quote but just like Di Matteo, think Tuchel is already viewed differently - e.g. on a higher pedestal than most - having achieved something so many other managers never did. Winning the Premier League and Champions League are pretty big in itself and if Tuchel can win the former plus the two domestic cups as a side on top of the Champions League, it would put him alongside Mourinho at least I think. 

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

hace 3 horas, Jype dijo:

 

What an embarrassing take by Micah Richards. He must feel like a silly cunt now that his comments backfired in the worst possible way. Not only did Chelsea win the biggest club trophy out there only a few months later with Mason Mount and Reece James both playing key roles, they also did it in the final against Micah's beloved club Manchester City. You couldn't make it up. 😂

To be honest, I don’t think its exactly an unfair thing to say at the time a lot of people in the media as well as on here were upset and didn’t expect much from Tuchel, more so after the Wolves game especially. Plus half the usual naysayers on here were also gunning for Tuchels head after the Arsenal game and FA cup final so I think in all realism its not exactly harsh compared to some of the drivel that was posted in here by certain individuals *cough* morons *cough*....

As well as this, to be fair to Richards after we beat City twice and in the run up to the CL final as well he had said repeatedly that he was incredibly worried about us beating them, particularly after the Real games I think. And that same night he had also praised Tuchel as well as Mason countless times in several games as well as being someone who has said despite it not feeling right about what Frank had done, that Tuchel had done a good job IIRC or something along those lines. Maybe it was MOTD or on sky as well but I am sure he said and praised us for keeping the number or coean sheets we had with Tuchel.

Personally, the worst of it was probably Harry Redknapp saying he didn’t think Tuchel was a top top coach because he had won in France after Gary Neville said we had appointed another one of the best managers in Europe. That was what was down right disrespectful. All the others who maybe had doubts or alliances with Frank changes their tune. I wish they’d interviewed that saggy faced git Redknapp again after last night.

[Jase 43,479]

34 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

To be honest, I don’t think its exactly an unfair thing to say at the time a lot of people in the media as well as on here were upset and didn’t expect much from Tuchel, more so after the Wolves game especially.

How is it not unfair? Everyone just jumped on him after one game. It was a game where Tuchel only had 1 training session with the team before it and he even explained his choices fairly for that game in that he went with experience because of the drama caused by Lampard's sacking and a number of the young players were affected by that. Once he had a bit more time after that to evaluate and for the players to calm down, he started playing Mount, James etc against in the following game. The English media were in way over their heads with Lampard and once the results started to flow in, they suddenly realized Tuchel is a good coach and better than Lampard (not that they have dared to say anything about that). 

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

hace 11 minutos, Jas dijo:

How is it not unfair? Everyone just jumped on him after one game. It was a game where Tuchel only had 1 training session with the team before it and he even explained his choices fairly for that game in that he went with experience because of the drama caused by Lampard's sacking and a number of the young players were affected by that. Once he had a bit more time after that to evaluate and for the players to calm down, he started playing Mount, James etc against in the following game. The English media were in way over their heads with Lampard and once the results started to flow in, they suddenly realized Tuchel is a good coach and better than Lampard (not that they have dared to say anything about that). 

It was always going to be expected and thats why its not exactly unfair to say that it would happen with British press. 

I mean anyone who thought he would get an easy ride didn't learn anything from the media frenzy and beatdown Villas-Boas got for alienating players who had close ties in the media (which Gary Neville had openly said recently that players were getting in touch with the media regarding him pre Napoli game) as well as after his sacking too. I mean AVB was a different scenario and the reaction was a bit different but ideally thats when I realised anytime we change manager regardless, there will be some sort of negativity before the next guys come in and done anything or huge negativity surrounding the guy who’s left. Its the way of the media. 

Think about it, Franks a well respected ex footballer, legend at the club and young manager who lost his job after 18 months, did you think the knifes weren’t going to be out and pointed at Tuchel before the Wolves game and therefor after it as well by sections of the British media and pundits? Would of been naive to think other wise.

 If the season had gone differently, it would be that article x 10000 severe. 

Edited May 30, 2021 by OneMoSalah