The Tuchel Thread

[Milan 17,955]

Wow, so many trophies lost there. 

[Mário César 1,231]

1 minute ago, Mário César said:

He needs to be sell.

Look how many finals we lost in the last 10 years.

community shield 2013

supercup 2013

world cup 2013

community shield 2015

fa cup 2017

community shield 2017

community shield 2018

carling cup 2019

supercup 2019

fa cup 2019

fa cup 2020

jesus christ. whats going on????

also

supercup 2014

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 minutes ago, Jas said:

Are we really counting the Community Shield? lol

bad enough even without the fkin shield. which btw i think we have not won since 2009 i think.

But there is one big one to be added in two weeks i am afraid with how things are going and that one will really hurt.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

3 minutes ago, Mário César said:

also

supercup 2014

no we werent in that supercup. but supercup 2012

[Mário César 1,231]

2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

no we werent in that supercup. but supercup 2012

yes my mistake

[Mário César 1,231]

6 minutes ago, Jas said:

Are we really counting the Community Shield? lol

I know that CS is not a very important trophy, but its not normal lose so many times. 4 in a row (its a record)

some competitions like CS or carling cup ins't a very important titles (qualification to ucl make more impact to the club) but we just can't ignore so many defeats

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Mário César said:

I know that CS is not a very important trophy, but its not normal lose so many times. 4 in a row (its a record)

some competitions like CS or carling cup ins't a very important titles (qualification to ucl make more impact to the club) but we just can't ignore so many defeats

The difference between the Community Shield and the League Cup is that the former is just a one off game while the latter is an actual tournament with multiple rounds etc, however big or small it is. I know that record is bad anyway even without the Community Shield but the Community Shield is basically a glorified pre-season friendly. 

[Mário César 1,231]

1 minute ago, Jas said:

The difference between the Community Shield and the League Cup is that the former is just a one off game while the latter is an actual tournament with multiple rounds etc, however big or small it is. I know that record is bad anyway even without the Community Shield but the Community Shield is basically a glorified pre-season friendly. 

its just sad

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

hace 1 minuto, Jas dijo:

The difference between the Community Shield and the League Cup is that the former is just a one off game while the latter is an actual tournament with multiple rounds etc, however big or small it is. I know that record is bad anyway even without the Community Shield but the Community Shield is basically a glorified pre-season friendly. 

Aye the CS is one of those but again, even if it is a glorified friendly if your there you may as well win it. Maybe not worth counting as a bigger trophy but still a trophy and still a game against good opposition 9/10 times that teams should be wanting to win.

[Milan 17,955]

1 minute ago, Jas said:

The difference between the Community Shield and the League Cup is that the former is just a one off game while the latter is an actual tournament with multiple rounds etc, however big or small it is. I know that record is bad anyway even without the Community Shield but the Community Shield is basically a glorified pre-season friendly. 

Well, we certainly won't be participating in the next one 😄 Would most likely be another record to the lost finals.

[Vesper 30,079]

I have no idea why so many shit on the CS

its a trophy, its hard to get into, and teams rarely if ever blow it off

in all the other major nations its a big deal

also some blow off the impost of the super cup, which is madness

i even see some play down FWCC

which is criminally stupid

we are the ONLY euro side to lose it post the brasil teams winning the first 3 when they still did not lose all their best players every year

its the world championship, you wear the badge for a year

its the only trophy still contested we have not won

and we are a laughingstock for losing it in 2012

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

Aye the CS is one of those but again, even if it is a glorified friendly if your there you may as well win it. Maybe not worth counting as a bigger trophy but still a trophy and still a game against good opposition 9/10 times that teams should be wanting to win.

But it's a trophy - if you want to call it that - that people only care if the team win and don't care if they lose. Totally different to the others. 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

hace 10 minutos, Jas dijo:

But it's a trophy - if you want to call it that - that people only care if the team win and don't care if they lose. Totally different to the others. 

That is also true. I suppose though if its against any of these direct rivals it should be treated as a opportunity to gauge where the teams at and maybe get off to a good start. Or thats the way I look at it. Its never going to decide a season obviously or be a huge positive or negative but its a game that even for a tinpot trophy, depending on the manager may vary in terms of must win or just a friendly but still can be used as a tool.

Edited May 15, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

That is also true. I suppose though if its against any of these direct rivals it should be treated as a opportunity to gauge where the teams at and maybe get off to a good start. Or thats the way I look at it. Its never going to decide a season obviously or be a huge positive or negative but its a game that even for a tinpot trophy.

Arsenal managed to beat Liverpool in the Community Shield this season and look where they are now. 

[Vesper 30,079]

12 minutes ago, Jas said:

But it's a trophy - if you want to call it that - that people only care if the team win and don't care if they lose. Totally different to the others. 

under Roman, winning two and losing 7 is SHAMEFUL

I want EVERY trophy EVERY year, ALWAYS

the minute that desire floods out of my being, I am done with football

Edited May 15, 2021 by Vesper

[Mário César 1,231]

Just now, Mana said:

Does Kepa really need to be sold at the moment? No, he has improved since the last time he started a run of games under Lampard.

But should he return as no.1? Hell no. He's improved, but he has gone from an awful, disgusting keeper to an average keeper. He's not going to be better than average.

Mendy is levels above Kepa.

Have people forgotten the reason why we won at the Etihad was because of Mendy's class saves?!?! He would have been a difference against Arsenal (because Arsenal wouldn't park the bus) AND would have definitely stopped Tielemans goal.

Kepa wasn't at fault for both goals like I did, but a class keeper would have gone and beyond what an average keeper like Kepa would do.

Leaving out Mendy for Kepa is one of the major reasons why we have suffered back to back defeats. And that falls on TT!

Exacly. Sadly, its TT fault.

[Vesper 30,079]

1 minute ago, Mana said:

Does Kepa really need to be sold at the moment? No, he has improved since the last time he started a run of games under Lampard.

But should he return as no.1? Hell no. He's improved, but he has gone from an awful, disgusting keeper to an average keeper. He's not going to be better than average.

Mendy is levels above Kepa.

Have people forgotten the reason why we won at the Etihad was because of Mendy's class saves?!?! He would have been a difference against Arsenal (because Arsenal wouldn't park the bus) AND would have definitely stopped Tielemans goal.

Kepa wasn't at fault for both goals like I did, but a class keeper would have gone and beyond what an average keeper like Kepa would do.

Leaving out Mendy for Kepa is one of the major reasons why we have suffered back to back defeats. And that falls on TT!

this!!!

and also SELL kepa anyway

he is shit

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Justo ahora, Jas dijo:

Arsenal managed to beat Liverpool in the Community Shield this season and look where they are now. 

Also true.

It depends as well though, some teams would maybe go on and have a good run after it. Some don’t as Arsenal haven’t.

I think years ago it had more value to managers like Mourinho and Ferguson. Despite it being a glorified friendly either way.