MONEYBALL 20 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: The day Lampard actually plays a 442 will be the day I’ll agree with you. Havertz as a CAM can be as effective as a 442 given he works best close to a striker. Anyway we haven't seen yet the 2 players for whom the club breaks its piggy. They are not good but you still prefer they play one of the most important game of the season. I' dont believe players who've been so poor than the two germans showed us recently, may be raised from the dead by playing big games, these guys need time, not pression and if they weren't called Werner and Havertz and did'nt coast so much money you'd be the first to want them to be on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Just now, Mana said: Most people here saw that Arsenal result coming though. It’s not like we were decent prior to the game. We saw it coming. Arsenal fans and others didn't seem to. For some reason.. I dont expect much from this tbh but if we can at least have a shot before the last 80. Least aim for a win. Arsenal was like we just turned up and was taken by surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: The day Lampard actually plays a 442 will be the day I’ll agree with you. Also, virtually everyone has been gash. A change is needed. Havertz as a CAM can be as effective as a 442 given he works best close to a striker. We did play a variation of 442 in our season opener with RLC in the Havertz position killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, MONEYBALL said: Anyway we haven't seen yet the 2 players for whom the club breaks its piggy. They are not good but you still prefer they play one of the most important game of the season. I' dont believe players who've been so poor than the two germans showed us recently, may be raised from the dead by playing big games, these guys need time, not pression and if they weren't called Werner and Havertz and did'nt coast so much money you'd be the first to want them to be on the bench. I’d like us to play our two biggest players in their strongest positions? How’s this hard to grasp? Or should we still persist with the same tactical nonsense we’ve seen the past 6 games? DANILA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,164 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 We can start with the same formation or different, it won't matter fuck all if the attitude is still the same shite as we have seen for weeks. If we are to get anything out of this game the first thing on the team sheet is desire. Simplymo and Laylabelle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONEYBALL 20 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: I’d like us to play our two biggest players in their strongest positions? How’s this hard to grasp? Or should we still persist with the same tactical nonsense we’ve seen the past 6 games? Our 2 most expensive players, we are not in a virtual game, you seem to forget it's on the piotch and not in tha amount of your transfert, footballers must demonstrate they are the "bigger players". And this excuse of position can't explain their mediocrity, too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, MONEYBALL said: Our 2 most expensive players, we are not in a virtual game, you seem to forget it's on the piotch and not in tha amount of your transfert, footballers must demonstrate they are the "bigger players". And “managers” do everything necessary to fully utilise their strongest assets. All we’ve seen is square pegs/round holes and you expect us to be contempt with such clueless tactics? Here’s an idea, if it’s not working, change it. God forbid we see Werner on the wing and our most expensive signing ever not utilized at all. All more evidence Lampard doesn’t have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 My feeling is, this game will be different to our last 5. We are gonna have more space, create lots of chances but as usual fail to make the most of them and probably end up with a close loss despite an overall more than decent performance. Not sure if that is tolerable. We can not realistically expect to win vs such a superior side but stranger things have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said: My feeling is, this game will be different to our last 5. We are gonna have more space, create lots of chances but as usual fail to make the most of them and probably end up with a close loss despite an overall more than decent performance. Not sure if that is tolerable. We can not realistically expect to win vs such a superior side but stranger things have happened. As good as 3 points is, performance to me is more important than the result. We need to see some signs of progression and a tactical aptitude from Lampard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,164 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Let me tell you, if Havertz starts this on the bench then it's a bigger issue than people think other than Havertz fitness, it will be clear there is an issue with him and FL. Personally, from what I have seen since he arrived I think he's a fucking lazy twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Let me tell you, if Havertz starts this on the bench then it's a bigger issue than people think other than Havertz fitness, it will be clear there is an issue with him and FL. Personally, from what I have seen since he arrived I think he's a fucking lazy twat. He is definitely not lazy. He just lacks a natural drive. He tracks runners up until our own penalty box at times. He just has not the inner urge to do so all game. also he obviously is low on confidence. People also underestimate what Covid can do to your body. A colleague of mine used to be fit as the butcher's dog, contracted void and is all but a shadow now. Lost serious muscle mass and can not run on a treadmill for even a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONEYBALL 20 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: And “managers” do everything necessary to fully utilise their strongest assets. All we’ve seen is square pegs/round holes and you expect us to be contempt with such clueless tactics? Here’s an idea, if it’s not working, change it. God forbid we see Werner on the wing and our most expensive signing ever not utilized at all. I hope Lamp 'll change his system, i don't believe in yours but if he decided to play as you 'd like and we loose because Werner and Havertz are still shit, at least it would put an end to this wrong diagnosis, they don't struggle because their positions on the sheet game.. Regardind Lamp, i can't disagree with you, he's an emblematic character but a poor manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,164 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said: He is definitely not lazy. He just lacks a natural drive. He tracks runners up until our own penalty box at times. He just has not the inner urge to do so all game. also he obviously is low on confidence. People also underestimate what Covid can do to your body. A colleague of mine used to be fit as the butcher's dog, contracted void and is all but a shadow now. Lost serious muscle mass and can not run on a treadmill for even a few minutes. he was shit before COVID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,250 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I am so dreading this game it has a true thrashing written all over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: As good as 3 points is, performance to me is more important than the result. We need to see some signs of progression and a tactical aptitude from Lampard. Problem is we step forwards..then take giant leaps back. If we win this it needs to be the start of a decent run. Not a blip in our poor one Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,250 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: Problem is we step forwards..then take giant leaps back. If we win this it needs to be the start of a decent run. Not a blip in our poor one BT just roasting us saying that we where the perfect team for Arsenal to launch a drive for the top 4 off off we were a team starting to freefall and thus Arse could pound us and gain more confidence killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Vesper said: BT just roasting us saying that we where the perfect team for Arsenal to launch a drive for the top 4 off off we were a team starting to freefall and thus Arse could pound us and gain more confidence Ermm thats not very comforting. True but even so. We were fine till December!! Then plop Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,976 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 The thought of Sterling sprinting at Azpi and De Bruyne playing easy diagonals between Zouma and Azpi is comforting before bed tonight. 😬😬😬 Really, the only positives I can think of are that City have been super inconsistent this season as well. And they may be missing some key players due to COVID. But who am I kidding, whenever opponents are missing key players they've still battered us in recent weeks. Johnnyeye, kellzfresh and bigbluewillie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pizy said: The thought of Sterling sprinting at Azpi and De Bruyne playing easy diagonals between Zouma and Azpi is comforting before bed tonight. 😬😬😬 Am probably gonna end up jinxing it this fucking time but christ, do people not get tired about saying that about Azpi all the time? Every time, there's 'Azpi will struggle against X, Y, Z' bla bla bla but every time, he dealt with whatever threat well enough that there's no problem from his side. Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANILA 290 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 We lost against an Arsenal C team, don't see how them being 3 starters out changes much. Won't get too many chances IMO and when we do it'll end up with a pass to the full backs for a cross and pray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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