Blue Armour 4,442 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 0:13 PM, Jason said: Who do you want me to jinx then? Maybe some former player? Someone you never particularly liked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Boom another clean sheet Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, King Kante said: It was because we played 4231 again. Honestly, we need to stop playing it as our passing in midfield goes to pot when we do. Today was great in that we won, but when it was 11 v 11 and then again from the 50th minute we were not transitioning the ball through midfield properly. Pretty sure it was 4-3-3 to begin with but things just didn't really click. Bosnian Blue and 0007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Pretty sure it was 4-3-3 to begin with but things just didn't really click. Yeah it was 4-3-3, the only issue is players like Kovacic/Kante are more used to sitting back in a double pivot. They don't always take up the same positions that Mount or Havertz do, although Kante tries. Still would like to see Mount-Kante-Kovacic, with Kante back at CDM for the weekend. Not comfortable with Jorginho playing there unless its a team that parks the bus.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 Muzchap and Strike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Blue Armour said: Yeah it was 4-3-3, the only issue is players like Kovacic/Kante are more used to sitting back in a double pivot. They don't always take up the same positions that Mount or Havertz do, although Kante tries. Still would like to see Mount-Kante-Kovacic, with Kante back at CDM for the weekend. Not comfortable with Jorginho playing there unless its a team that parks the bus.. I don't know what to make of our midfield anymore, especially when it's 3 from Jorginho, Kovacic, Kante and Mount. We saw games last season where any combination of 3 from the 4 look good in some matches and then just horrible in others - for example, the Jorginho-Kovacic-Mount combo during that winning run in September-November. They were great during that run but things just went crap after that. Muzchap, mkh and 0007 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jason said: I don't know what to make of our midfield anymore, especially when it's 3 from Jorginho, Kovacic, Kante and Mount. We saw games last season where any combination of 3 from the 4 look good in some matches and then just horrible in others - for example, the Jorginho-Kovacic-Mount combo during that winning run in September-November. They were great during that run but things just went crap after that. Well it kind of got broken up by Kante, which meant Mount got shift out to the wing a lot. One thing is for certain, Mount is twice the player in a No.6/No.8 position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jason said: Pretty sure it was 4-3-3 to begin with but things just didn't really click. Well that must've been a pretty quick change as we went to 4231 by the 10th minute. To be honest, I wasn't sure of the set up in the first few minutes but it was 4231 for most of the half. I put it down to all the chopping and changing and it took them a few minutes to settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jason said: I don't know what to make of our midfield anymore, especially when it's 3 from Jorginho, Kovacic, Kante and Mount. We saw games last season where any combination of 3 from the 4 look good in some matches and then just horrible in others - for example, the Jorginho-Kovacic-Mount combo during that winning run in September-November. They were great during that run but things just went crap after that. Jorginho's form during Sep-Nov last year was his best ever during his time with us. He's gone back to playing passively again. He was never great at putting a defensive shift, but he made up for it with stellar passing when he was on form. Now he's playing in cruise control most of the time. The only noticeable elements in his play is when he tries to lead the midfield press, and the occasional long ball (which sometimes works a treat, like his assist for Werner against Southampton). In hindsight I wish we had retained either one of RLC or Barkley, instead of keeping both Kovacic-Jorginho. It would have helped when rotating the squad for midweek games I imagine Lampard originally envisioned us playing 4-2-3-1 for the majority of this season with Havertz in the CAM role. But things change quickly. Pre-season might have helped him decide whether 4-2-3-1 was really the way to go, but here we are. Seen this happen many times before. Ancelloti starting with 4-4-2 diamond...realizes 4-3-3 was a better fit for his first 11. Conte starting 4-2-3-1, realizing 3-4-3 was better. Bosnian Blue and Muzchap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 Johnnyeye, killer1257 and Muzchap 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Did Jorginho really play that badly (watched the game so its a rhetorical question)? Thought he did alright, solid enough, kept it simple when he had to, had a few diagonals and didnt overly commit at times. Its not as if hes a league 1 player which you'd think reading some of the embarrassing posts on here. When Jorginho doesnt play who is gonna get it next 🤣 Good win, clean sheet, Silva-Zouma partnership looks good and Mendy is great. That 2nd pen is ridiculously harsh and killed the game as a contest really although playing v 10 men is harder and a good test. 0007 and Miguelito 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 31/10/2020 at 7:43 PM, ZAPHOD2319 said: This looks good. I watched the Blades game today, we really could give a few players an extended rest. SU looked awful. How was Ethan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Jason desperate to not let anyone know which country hes from True but having read Secret Footballer, you start to doubt a lot of the 'official' lines, by all clubs Start? 🙂 Muzchap and Fulham Broadway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Muzchap said: Hoddle aint.. They all think UEFA rules suck as do I 👍 I didn't see the discussion, or the match yet come to that, but if you're talking about the handball law, uefa don't set the laws of football. fifa do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Vesper said: Upamecano with yet another howler he is dogshit atm steer clear steer clear! Tuesday afternoons. Home from school. Black and white telly. 5pm ITV, and note ITV, no 1, 2, 3 or 4. (There weren't even four channels total, nevermind four of them called ITV.) Those were The days. Fulham Broadway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said: How was Ethan? He played well, but didn't really stand out. He was subbed out at 65'. He is getting a lot of playing time. Since he cut his hair, I don't see him on the pitch as well. OhForAGreavsie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 hours ago, 0007 said: Reece should run at players more often.Too many times he passes it casually to either the CB or the CM. He has no confidence in his pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 First in the group ! Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 7 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: I didn't see the discussion, or the match yet come to that, but if you're talking about the handball law, uefa don't set the laws of football. fifa do. Ahh they were saying UEFA are implementing it very harshly and the rule needs to be rewritten. Cheers for the correction 👍 OhForAGreavsie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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