closed Krasnodar 0-4 Chelsea

[Atomiswave 6,117]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

I am going with Ziyech for MOTM

Been quality

[Milan 17,958]

Another thing -

BRING BACK THE FANS!

The game is just something else with them inside the stadium.

[killer1257 3,282]

Tammy with a nice assist as well

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[0007 511]

Shambolic performance till the tripple change and nice 20 minutes after that.I am not optimistic despite the result but we will see what happens.

I don't trust Lampard at all but the players we have are good enough to give us results and mask the problems so I am at least happy we have them. And maybe, just maybe, he found the right formation today and we will see it more often in the future. I deffended Jorginho a lot but he needs to be benched, we need to be a lot more quicker on the ball and it just doesn't happen with him ans Kova. 

P. S. I already love Mendy!

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

7 minutes ago, DANILA said:

Krasnodar outplayed us in attack today, we were lucky. This result masks another dreadful performance

sorry but that is absolute BS. We really should stop this defeatist attitude. There were some nervy bounceball moments but Mendy was always in control. He had every narrow shot covered, even the one that hit the bar. It really getsus nowhere to foster this negative narrative just to blow off some steam. The performance has not been ideal but at no point in time we were outplayed.

[Yeboii 1,844]

Feel bad for their keeper though. He looked like he hadn't slept at all last night. Probably stressed against the biggest side he has competed against. He is 21 so maybe he wanted to shine and earn a move somewhere. Looked so disappointed, but he could have saved CHO's and Puli's goals.

[Jase 43,479]

Never a 4-0 game but hey ho! Really horrendous performance until these changes happened...

 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, Yeboii said:

Feel bad for their keeper though. He looked like he hadn't slept at all last night. Probably stressed against the biggest side he has competed against. He is 21 so maybe he wanted to shine and earn a move somewhere. Looked so disappointed, but he could have saved CHO's and Puli's goals.

tbf Ziyech was so gracious to warm him up by shooting quite a few balls straight at him. Classy lad.

[Muzchap 8,966]

I was worried about Ziyech taking time- but fair play to whoever said start him, when I was discussing it.

If he can find form with Puli - it's going to be scary.

Please Frank stick with this team and play 433.

Stop with the shit 4-2-3-1 bollox which i fucking hate.

[Nero 1,874]

Cho scored, Ziyech scored, Rüdiger is back, clean sheet. 

I'm happy!

 

 

[Nero 1,874]

10 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

3 clean sheets in a row, 4-0. Nice.

4 clean sheets in a row for Mendy. 

[Muzchap 8,966]

9 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

3 clean sheets in a row, 4-0. Nice.

Exactly - first time since Petr Cech 😍😍😍

I'm genuinely excited with this team if we can get the formation sorted and people in form.

Reminds me of the late 90s early 00s 👍 the potential is awesome...

[Dan Lee 47]

Stop 4-2-3-1. Not working. If FL continue doing it, he should have a really good reason. I don't want to watch Chelsea with 4-2-3-1.

[Jase 43,479]

22 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Mount Kanté Havertz 433 is our best midfield in theory. 

My one concern is that Werner could get isolated upfront in that system but if we can get support around him and make it work, then why not? 

[Johnnyeye 7,510]

Great win in the end, 3 points and a clean sheet, something unthinkable a few weeks back, the starting 11 when all fit should be

GK: Mendy,

Defense: Chilwell, Zouma, Silva, James

Midfield: Mount, Kante, Havertz

Attack: Werner, Ziyech, Pulisic

Goodnight guys and forgive my cuntish rants, take it with a grain of salt, i blame the time fuse 🤣

KTBFFH 🙏❤️

[Jase 43,479]

Our xG below 1 again (excluding the penalties).  

[Azul 1,615]

Attack is the best defense. You press the opponents which means you don't give them any opportunity to attack. 

Instead of them pressing us and us giving the opponents space to attack, the opposite happened after the subs which was very positive to see.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

30 minutes ago, Hutcho said:

 

 

We're not talking about 49 percent. We're talking about 12 percent which would put him in line with the other managers. 12 goals that kepa let in would have effected that. We only conceded the 3rd most shots in the league last season. No Eden would have obviously effected that.

As I've said all along. Judge lamps at the end of the season. This is now his team and whilst they will still take time to gel these are his players.

You can't just pick out the "worst" players under particular managerial regimes and then say but we won with them.
 

 

Perhaps but still, you going to say that the win percentage couldn't be more if set plays such as corners or FKs were defended better? (Yes the GK can come into that but I wouldn't say he is purely to blame for all the set pieces we've from conceded either - zonal marking big feature the last 13 or 14 months) If at times the in game management wasn't better and we weren't bombing wingbacks up the field in the 92nd minute v West Ham when its 2-2 or sitting off Southampton at 3-1 up or whatever? Or is it purely a lets say make out that individual mistakes are the only reason this Chelsea team and Frank's managerial record is at the percentage it is? To give the impression that despite the fact its low, it should be much better? Because that's what I feel your trying to do. I get the feeling people will allude to Kepa, Zouma and Jorginho etc but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that this team has other issues than a few guys making mistakes individually. Look at how many times this mob had got through out midfield this game alone when it was 4231? Or is this purely on the players again? Or how predictable some of the attack was until we switched to 433 and they ran out of gas? Or again is 200m worth of players at fault? If things like this and mistakes are happening as often as they have with Frank in his spell here, that screams out to me there is much more wrong than just one or two players having bad games, it has to be. You cannot have individual mistakes for 13 or 14 months. People make mistakes but when they become clear and obvious every game or every few games, something is wrong.  

Yes I have said about giving him the time, I reckon 18 months is a fair point to judge him at. I think its roughly enough time for a manager to get some sort of identity and shape his squad. I get the transfer ban etc, its a bit of a shit one but still, as you've said now this is his team and they need to gel but they didn't have a good structure to go into these new players or a team with a clear identity either IMO which won't help them adapt. And some people might say that's too long, there are guys who can put their identity on a team in as little as 2 months or even sooner. Just look at Poch when he went to Southampton or Klopp at Liverpool, the first few games it was hugely evident what their ideas of football were. Even if the quality wasn't there. Still struggling to see what sort of team we are going to be. Are we a high pressing team without the ball? Are we a more reactive team without the ball? Are we an out and out attacking team? Are we a counter attacking team? Its very much all up in the air, it seems to change each week. Variation is good but not to the point where you watch a game each week unsure which style or approach is going to be used. And people complained we had no identity under Sarri when we had a much more clearer one too..... 

The worst players who unfortunately had some of the most key roles in that system? Why can't I? Your not going to tell me that as well that if Cahill and Luiz also didn't play fantastic that season that they wouldn't deserve praise as they were notoriously towards the bottom of everyone's list of good players at Chelsea. Or are we now at the point where we are going to just purely say that Eden and Diego won us the league alone that season? Despite the huge amount of clean sheets? Despite Kante and Matic's amount of recoveries and tackles in MF? Or not the fact that great coaching and a clear identity made a huge difference? Which is what I am alluding to with this team, if we had that, it would compensate for some of these guys deficits because we have good players, even last season. And its not Jorginho's fault, Kepa's fault, Zouma's fault we don't have a clear identity, unfortunately. 

[King Kante 1,643]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

My one concern is that Werner could get isolated upfront in that system but if we can get support around him and make it work, then why not? 

Play him on the left. 4231 is a really bad fit for us as we do not have the CM's to play the pivot properly. Even in a 4231 he is getting isolated and lets face it, with all the long balls that get hit, we would need to play Giroud and have him as a left sided AM anyway. 

On to the game and great to see Mendy get another clean sheet. The difference between him and Kepa is massive. As for my MotM it goes to Ziyech. 

[Azul 1,615]

Without Jorginho playing, you see the difference in our approach in terms of passing. Instead of passing the ball the whole time, we were positive and kept bringing the ball forward. 

I pray that Lampard doesn't fear Burnley and plays the midfield of Mount-Kante-Havertz.