communicate 2,703 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Jason said: I don't have the passing map but you're kidding yourself if you think it's similar to without Fabregas back then when (a) Conte is known to instill patterns of play into his team, (b) Fabregas was not even favored initially by Conte and (c) we played some of our best football under Conte and Fabregas didn't even play in some of them (e.g. Fabregas not playing half of our 13-game winning run in 2016/17). The midfield back then was not perfect of course but passing forward or creativity wasn't really an issue compared to now. And in some ways, I guess we're seeing now the difference between a manager who really instills patterns of play into the team and one who doesn't really do that. One has a proper team structure while another doesn't. You are absolutely right saying that Conte has more pattern of play whereas Lamp more of let player figure it out by themselves. My point before here was on that passing map, in 343,the main way to progress in thay system is through your two wide cb and your wb, they are your freeman. Usually your two cm will be pressed by opp midfield or am, so it is difficult to progress the ball, you play only two midfield for a reason. Of course if one of your cm is Fabregas who is wc passer he can still progress the ball. In our current situation we can bring kova who can dribble past player for jorgi and it will help the situation but in that game my bigger concern in on the front 3. They probably will eventually figure it out but right now it is not really working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, communicate said: You are absolutely right saying that Conte has more pattern of play whereas Lamp more of let player figure it out by themselves. My point before here was on that passing map, in 343,the main way to progress in thay system is through your two wide cb and your wb, they are your freeman. Usually your two cm will be pressed by opp midfield or am, so it is difficult to progress the ball, you play only two midfield for a reason. Of course if one of your cm is Fabregas who is wc passer he can still progress the ball. In our current situation we can bring kova who can dribble past player for jorgi and it will help the situation but in that game my bigger concern in on the front 3. They probably will eventually figure it out but right now it is not really working. Just because the midfield may get pressed, it doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't play forward passes. We have played 4-2-3-1 countless of times under past managers and 3-4-3 in the past, both with just the two in midfield and I don't think it was as dysfunctional as it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Yeah im not fond of this structure either, you must be a unit all over the pitch, this individuelism upfront wont cut it cuz we are far from being that effective. I had hoped that we would be further ahead in our progress but we are pretty far from it. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Jason said: This article is about Kante but it also highlights our problem in midfield... https://theathletic.com/2161142/2020/10/26/ngolo-kante-chelsea-frank-lampard/?source=emp_shared_article This says it all. Our midfield needs to do better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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