closed Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool

[ahmedou 192]

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

We will only see that once they are actually playing. Ziyech would have been a field day today vs that high line of pool. It’s the players we have playing instead of our signings that prevent us from going up a level

Even then, has anything really changed after a season with Lampard through coaching? We are still making dumb errors at the back (look at the Mane header for example) and can't pass the ball or even control possession for at least a couple of minutes. 

You would think that after one season, Lampard would have had this template or idea of playing embedded into the team and he just needed upgrades to make the team better. But we still look the same as last season. There doesn't seem to be any set kind of template in this team because Lampard has chopped and changed way too much. 

[Johnnyeye 7,509]

good thing i didnt watch this one, i was not expecting anything from this game and it shows, i'm not going to let Chelsea ruin my weekend again, shame we had to play those scouse cunts so early in the season, fuck them all.

[communicate 2,703]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

They worked until a mistake like these did today.

For the record I don't agree with it, would rather lose going for it then to try and shithouse a 0-0, even if it was looking good to work until the red.

I am not sure by people complaining about tactic. Did we setup to play defensive football? Not so much. We just can't escape their press and keep the ball. Our only way of playing was through Werner behind, where he got 2/3 good opportunity one on one against Fabinho. 

[Vesper 30,175]

Kante is DONE as a  world class player, and he is even worse, a detriment, at RMF in a 3 man midfield

 

 

[Azul 1,615]

Just now, Ryan Fong said:

The overreactions are pretty laughable. We were completely fine in the first half and they didn’t have a single real threat expect Mane’s run and Christensen’s red card. On the other hand Werner had a couple of chances and Kante as well. Of course it’s going to be difficult against the champ with 10 men, what do you expect? Play ultra attacking football when it’s 0:0 with 10 men? Geez, second game of the season with half of the starting 11 missing and you’re all bitching, astonishing view.

We're not talking about when we were playing with 10 men but our tactics in the first half was extremely defensive, which ultimately cost us the game.

We basically didn't go in the game with intention to win but we didn't want to lose. That's worrying and a horrible mentality to have as a football manager.

[DDA 9,938]

1 minute ago, ahmedou said:

"Please tell me im asleep.. and this is just a nightmare.. please tell me in playing for Ajax still"

[Stats 7,142]

Just now, Vesper said:

Kante is DONE as a  world class player, and he is even worse, a detriment, at RMF in a 3 man midfield

 

 

He has been the only good player imo.

[Special Juan 28,141]

I have turned it off, absolute dog shit of the highest order.

[ahmedou 192]

Ghosts vs Players

[Hutcho 8,443]

Chelsea set up very attacking and look terrible defensively.

TC - "We need to be better defensively and can't be so naive against big teams."

Chelsea set up more defensively and look defensively solid.

TC - "We are so negative, no attacking intent"

Conclusion. People will whine when we lose regardless. 2 dogshit errors cost us. Move on next game.

[communicate 2,703]

5 minutes ago, Vytis33 said:

Let's keep stubbornly trying to play out from the back and put the already shaky defense under even more pressure. 

 

Better yet let's kick random long ball and let Werner fight against vvd and Fabinho in the air. 

[Hutcho 8,443]

Leeds almost beat them and Arsenal beat them as well

No Leeds lost. And were lucky it was so close. They had 3 chances and scored 3. Don't be results oriented. Same with the arsenal game. First half they did nothing.

[BXL70 396]

Defense was OK. Especially James and Zouma.

Bu then we have these liabilities of Kepa and to a lower extent Jorginho + Mount lost on the pitch and Harvetz nowhere near 70£ worth, he was walking on the pitch.

[Hutcho 8,443]

The overreactions are pretty laughable. We were completely fine in the first half and they didn’t have a single real threat expect Mane’s run and Christensen’s red card. On the other hand Werner had a couple of chances and Kante as well. Of course it’s going to be difficult against the champ with 10 men, what do you expect? Play ultra attacking football when it’s 0:0 with 10 men? Geez, second game of the season with half of the starting 11 missing and you’re all bitching, astonishing view.

Absolutely mate.

But it is TC so we have to allow for the fact people will moan if we don't win every game 3 nil.

[Azul 1,615]

5 minutes ago, Jason said:

Even then, has anything really changed after a season with Lampard through coaching? We are still making dumb errors at the back (look at the Mane header for example) and can't pass the ball or even control possession for at least a couple of minutes. 

You would think that after one season, Lampard would have had this template or idea of playing embedded into the team and he just needed upgrades to make the team better. But we still look the same as last season. There doesn't seem to be any set kind of template in this team because Lampard has chopped and changed way too much. 

I had this discussion with a friend of mine. I came to the conclusion that Lampard doesn't have a philosophy. If you look at the likes of Guardiola, Klopp, Ancelotti etc, you see all of these WC managers using a style of play and they also have a consistent team set up. Some of them use 433 formation others use 4231 etc. Lampard always changes his tactics and formation which hurts the team, because they can't get used to a style of play.

[dreamcfc 182]

1 minute ago, Stats said:

He has been the only good player imo.

Problem is that he is good at the things you don't want to be happening too much during a game anyway, if Kante is excellent , generally its because we are playing poor as a team and are not controlling the game (Not always but generally) when we boss the game and he is mostly on the offence, he slows things down and doesn't offer enough attacking threat, moment in the first half was a good example.

 

[Hutcho 8,443]

Well done Timo

[Vesper 30,175]

pen, woot

[R2D2 368]

Please don't miss it, at least make the score respectable.