🇩🇪 Kai Havertz

[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, Azul said:

No Haaland with Havertz would become unstoppable.

If we put Håland in this team, with the way it is playing/defending I think there would be very few teams who could give us a game, let alone beat us. The amount of control we are exerting on games atm, is slightly crazy. Bar Zouma's inability to read the game (and TT erring and thinking he could get away with playing him as a CCB.) We haven't conceded a goal owing to the other team opening us up for 11 games. Mental. 

[whats happening 1,615]

we are not getting haaland lol

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Screw Haaland. We have our ST. 

 

4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

I said it 6 months ago I'll say it again. 

Best thing in the league since Cristiano. 

 

4 hours ago, whats happening said:

took tuchel one month to find him the proper role and position. not a good look on frank.

Christ, do not overreact. This was one good game FFS.

Also, Lampard did use Kai in a very similar false 9 in a 3-4-3 away at ManUre to no avail so it might not only be the position.

Edited March 9, 2021 by Magic Lamps

[Jase 43,479]

2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

Christ, do not overreact. This was one good game FFS.

Also, Lampard did use Kai in a very similar false 9 in a 3-4-3 away at ManUre to no avail so it might not only be the position.

Didn't Werner play as the ST in that game?

Anyway, the difference between Lampard and Tuchel is that the latter gives better clarity to players to make a role work. 

[coolhead23 1,147]

This was clearly a different Havertz ... in terms of confidence, approach & attitude. Hope he keeps this momentum. 

[Jase 43,479]

At the risk of jumping the gun, based on yesterday's performance, it feels like Havertz can provide what both Abraham and Giroud do in leading the line. He's got good pace, good movement, good at linking up play by dropping deep, capable of running beyond the defence and not bad in the air either. Just need to bulk up a tad bit.

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

 

[Jase 43,479]

Tuchel on Havertz today...

The position between a nine and ten is pretty much his best position. He has the freedom to drop, to switch positions. I feel very confident with him in high positions, I don't want to have him behind the ball. He needs to be high up the pitch and he feels comfortable behind opponents, between the lines, and in little pockets.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

His constant movement is what gave Everton trouble, hence why if he were to play there, LW and RW must be quick and dynamic and to run through channels. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

His constant movement is what gave Everton trouble, hence why if he were to play there, LW and RW must be quick and dynamic and to run through channels. 

Spot on. His fellow attackers must not leave him isolated. I can see him work with any combination of Mount/CHO/Werner/Puli but less so with Ziyech... we will see.

Anyway, if he really can make  this false 9 position his own and we manage to make this system work vs any kind of opposition, our long term striker problems could be solved. Far to early to say after one match tho.

One final thought, I noticed how he takes a split second to compose himself  everytime right before finishing when in on goal.(Obviously only when taking a touch prior to finishing so not for volleys or headers) Look at his hattrick in the cup, his offside "handball" goal vs Everton and his goals for leverkusen the on vs Inter for example. At first i thought it was infuriatingly casual to delay the finishing but it is incredibly smart. He recognizes when he has time to readjust his body, only delays if he actually has the time and thus picks the perfect moment to strike. This is an attirbute i have seldom seen in such a young player. A quality of top class finishers. Off the top of my head, the only other players I have consciouly seen doing this as frequently and ostentatively are Lampard and Messi, two of the greatest finishers in football history.

Edited March 12, 2021 by Magic Lamps

[Blue Armour 4,439]

First time listening to an audio interview of him today.

Surprisingly sounds a lot like Michael Ballack when speaking, especially given how young he is!

[Jap Si. 50]

Ok he have difficult start at CFC but potential there now coming through and to say him better than Abraham in any position is how you say under statement. 

[milka 3,393]

 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

was terrible again. should have scored early on, would have been a completely different game. dire finishing from him as usual.

[BlueGuy 10]

• it's beautiful to see how majority of you don't have understood yet  what kind of player havertz is

[DANILA 290]

Have not seen anything special. Worried

[BlueGuy 10]

2 hours ago, DANILA said:

Have not seen anything special. Worried

what do you mean for "special"? just to have an idea

[DANILA 290]

9 minutes ago, BlueGuy said:

what do you mean for "special"? just to have an idea

Aside from his performance against CP, all he does is exactly what you would expect from an average player. He makes the easiest passes (usually backwards), loses the ball often, doesn't take on players, etc 

[chippy 342]

1 hour ago, DANILA said:

Aside from his performance against CP, all he does is exactly what you would expect from an average player. He makes the easiest passes (usually backwards), loses the ball often, doesn't take on players, etc 

He's certainly nowhere near the "generational player" he was being hyped as,  or worth the money we paid,  but he's got more talent than you credit him with.

The entire forward line is a disaster zone, no matter who we play and he really hadn't been that much worse than the rest. Having a rather languid style of play doesn't help him either during this poor run of form. Also,  I do wish he'd put his foot thru the ball when he has a shot at goal, rather than trying to cleverly place it all the time.

I think we'll know by this time next year wether or not he's going to be good enough for us longterm.. Same with a few others like CHIO, Werner, James and Chilwell and maybe even Puli. We have to remember that even some proven quality players at Liverpool have also had poor seasons too.

 

 

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

I disagree that he does not show anything special. There are glimpses of excellent technique esp controlling the football in tight spaces as well as vision. It is just very erratic and moving him around is not going to help esp as a false 9, where he lacks the basics (make runs without the ball).

Obviously he needs to improve, but his inconsistent form matches his young age.

Edited April 22, 2021 by robsblubot