Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Germany is watching you : „ @ChelseaFC Fans fight for Havertz“ ( Headline: Chelsea-Fans kämpfen um Havertz) Christian Falck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jason said: Sancho can play LW/RW/AM. And you said as if we are going to sign Said Benrahma when it's nothing more than just rumors right now and there's no guarantee Brentford will sell him cheaply especially if they get promoted to the Premier League. Sancho is domaintely a winger not a AM, for me Sancho is a Theo Walcott and some more. ... well the underlining there was there are other wingers who are much cheaper if we need those type of profile and he wouldnt cost 80m atleast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Pizy said: Yep, and if you watch his YouTube highlights that ball is basically his signature move. He executes that pass perfectly time and again. Now imagine Pulisic or Werner getting on the end of that pass. Mouthwatering. Pulisic on the LW. Werner as the ST. Ziyech on the RW. Where does this leave Havertz? Keep getting told he's not that good as the No.10... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Pulisic on the LW. Werner as the ST. Ziyech on the RW. Where does this leave Havertz? Keep getting told he's not that good as the No.10... He is great at no. 10, only inconsistent. While he scores almost all the time as a CF or RW. I can see Lampard going for the most amount of creativity possible like Man City. Ziyech, Havertz and Puli can create great chances and a guy like Werner could explode if they deliver him crazy passes like City deliver crazy passes to Aguero. Lampard is probably tired of Willian Barkley and Mount for not creating any chancesGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Lampard is probably tired of Willian Barkley and Mount for not creating any chances And yet, we know Lampard values the workrate of Mount and Willian. As for Barkley, the less said the better but only recently, Lampard called him the 'complete player'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 from the last two seasons,,there's no significant difference performance between Sancho & Havertz. but when we need an AMF profile,,havertz always has a better stats (PS% & Aerial won).... kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 from the last two seasons,,there's no significant difference performance between Sancho & Havertz. but when we need an AMF profile,,havertz always has a better stats (PS% & Aerial won)....Those stats are a little bit misleading. Most goals Havertz scored this season came from RW and CF.Also, BVB are far better than Leverkusen. It is easier to score and assist at BVB. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk DDA and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,909 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 One option:Â -----------------------Werner------------------- Pulisic--------------Havertz---------------Ziyech ----------------Kova-----------Kante------------ Another option: -------------------Tammy/Giroud----------------- Werner---------------Mount---------------Ziyech -----------------Jorginho/Biily----------Kante-------------- Another option: Werner---------------Havertz-----------------Ziyech ------------------------Mount-------------------------- --------------------Billy---------Kante---------------- Thats not even taking into account players like CHO, RLC, etc who will of course play a lot. I think (hope) that we'd play Havertz as the #10. Massie and Dimitr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 59 minutes ago, Pizy said: One option: -----------------------Werner------------------- Pulisic--------------Havertz---------------Ziyech ----------------Kova-----------Kante------------ Another option: -------------------Tammy/Giroud----------------- Werner---------------Mount---------------Ziyech -----------------Jorginho/Biily----------Kante-------------- Another option: Werner---------------Havertz-----------------Ziyech ------------------------Mount-------------------------- --------------------Billy---------Kante---------------- Thats not even taking into account players like CHO, RLC, etc who will of course play a lot. I think (hope) that we'd play Havertz as the #10. Another option is:                Kante      Mount.            Harvetz Ziyech.        Werner.            Puli Personally, I reckon if Harvetz comes here he will be made into a No.8 in a 433 and a No.10 in a 4231. I think this may be one of the reasons he is open to Chelsea as he can learn from SFL who was the best goal scoring No.8 in the past 30 years. I think people get way too wrapped up in the positions Harvetz has played this season. He has ended up at RWF/CF due to injuries and his talent level, which means he can play a variety of positions to a very high level without a drop off in quality - think Balack/Rooney/Alaba/Saul. However, long term I believe he is best off in midfield has he has the ability to dictate play and score goals. If you stick him in one of the three forward positions he will maybe score more but he will not be able to take control of games as easily. Pizy and Massie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 One option:Â -----------------------Werner------------------- Pulisic--------------Havertz---------------Ziyech ----------------Kova-----------Kante------------ Another option: -------------------Tammy/Giroud----------------- Werner---------------Mount---------------Ziyech -----------------Jorginho/Biily----------Kante-------------- Another option: Werner---------------Havertz-----------------Ziyech ------------------------Mount-------------------------- --------------------Billy---------Kante---------------- Thats not even taking into account players like CHO, RLC, etc who will of course play a lot. I think (hope) that we'd play Havertz as the #10.Ruben will leave us in winter if Havertz comes, sadly. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Ruben will leave us in winter if Havertz comes, sadly. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk  Why? Honestly doubt it. RlC fought on even when the likes of sarri won't start him. Showed his quality and got in. I expect it to be the same here. Barkley to slowly but surely get sidelined. With mount, kai and RlC fighting for the 2 no. 8 roles DDA and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Ruben will leave us in winter if Havertz comes, sadly. No chance he leaves. I'd think Barkley is the first one out the door as far as central midfielders are concerned, despite his somewhat decent form of late. RLC is still coming back from one of the worst injuries a footballer can have and the club certainly seem to believe in him, based on the fact he was given a big contract (120k/wk) just last summer despite his injury. That said, I think at least in the short term RLC will only be an impact player from the bench. His skill set is so different than any of the other CMs at the club so it's good to have him as a tactical option and he'll still get plenty of game time especially next season with 5 subs per game still being a thing. Even this summer he's played 220 mins after the restart so averaging around 30 minutes per game and that's after he's only just come back into the squad. If, given time, he eventually makes a full recovery from the achilles injury as well as overcome the back issues he's had in his career I could easily see him becoming a starter ahead of the likes of Kovacic or Mount (and that's coming from someone who rates both highly), though it's still a very long way for him to go before that can happen. DDA and Puliiszola 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, King Kante said: Another option is:                Kante      Mount.            Harvetz Ziyech.        Werner.            Puli  It will likely be that. Kovacic possibly in for Havertz or Mount depending on the opposition. Still not entire comfortable shoehorning Kante in that DM role. Would rather actually get a DM. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: It will likely be that. Kovacic possibly in for Havertz or Mount depending on the opposition. Still not entire comfortable shoehorning Kante in that DM role. Would rather actually get a DM. Yeah, I would agree but I think SFL has a hard on for Kante and it is the only way I see him fitting into the side if Harvetz arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: It will likely be that. Kovacic possibly in for Havertz or Mount depending on the opposition. Still not entire comfortable shoehorning Kante in that DM role. Would rather actually get a DM. The only way you can afford playing that midfield is if you have a player like Kanté who can cover huge distances. Also going forward, N'Golo will have to play there more often IMO if he wants a longer career. I don't think his body can sustain playing nearly every minute of every game as a box to box anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Rapkun said: The only way you can afford playing that midfield is if you have a player like Kanté who can cover huge distances. Also going forward, N'Golo will have to play there more often IMO if he wants a longer career. I don't think his body can sustain playing nearly every minute of every game as a box to box anymore. Mount offers a lot off the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Mount offers a lot off the ball. But he offers zero creativity and physicality. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Mount offers a lot off the ball. He certainly does but we've yet to see him play full time in that position. He will have to defend deeper and get at the edge of our box more often. I'm not execting much from Kai defensively if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, killer1257 said: But he offers zero creativity and physicality. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk  Physicality? I disagree. I specifically remember him mugging off Vertonghen on two occasions in two different matches. He is probably our only youth product that offers this aggression. Pulisic, Havertz, Werner, and Ziyech in the side makes it less likely we will rely on Mount to offer any creativity. His job will be like it is now. Build up ulsterchelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,394 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Kai Havertz has decided he wants to be playing his football at #Chelsea next season https://www.90min.com/posts/kai-havertz-chooses-chelsea-but-move-must-wait-until-europa-league-conclusion?a_aid=41222 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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