Blues Forever 1,010 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, killer1257 said: By far better than JT. Not even a debate. The football IQ and the overall technique of Silva make him an all time great. He belongs in the category with Maldini, Nesta Baresi etc. No direspect to Silva, but Nesta Maldini, and Baresi were on whole another level. Edited September 12, 2021 by Blues Forever 4 Link to post Share on other sites
nyikolajevics 2,154 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Blues Forever said: No direspect to Silva, but Nesta Maldini, and Baresi were on whole another level. These comparisions are pointless IMO. How do you compare Thiago Silva who is active to Baresi who played in the 1980-90s? Based on what? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,958 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, nyikolajevics said: These comparisions are pointless IMO. How do you compare Thiago Silva who is active to Baresi who played in the 1980-90s? Based on what? that's a cherry-pick Maldini played until 2009 and Nesta until 2014 and Baresi, a 3 time CL/EC winner and 2 time world champion, was playing in what was the toughest league on the planet for most of his career, and on some of the best teams ever in football history Thiago is a superb CB, on of the top 15 (probably top 10) in last the last 20 years, but I would take any of those 3 over him Link to post Share on other sites
Kong 1,568 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 10 hours ago, Blues Forever said: No direspect to Silva, but Nesta Maldini, and Baresi were on whole another level. Hard to compare players of different eras, just simply because the game has changed so much, impossible to say the older greats would even have half the impact in the modern game. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
nyikolajevics 2,154 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Vesper said: that's a cherry-pick Maldini played until 2009 and Nesta until 2014 and Baresi, a 3 time CL/EC winner and 2 time world champion, was playing in what was the toughest league on the planet for most of his career, and on some of the best teams ever in football history Thiago is a superb CB, on of the top 15 (probably top 10) in last the last 20 years, but I would take any of those 3 over him Yes, I got this, what I meant that times are changing.. It’s like comparing Messi to Maradona. The latter ruled football with big belly while doing coke, ofc nowadays it can’t happen. Have to put everything in context. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MoroccanBlue 4,257 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 His career is tarnished considering he spent his prime years at PSG. He’d be valued higher had he moved to England after Milan. Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Forever 1,010 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Kong said: Hard to compare players of different eras, just simply because the game has changed so much, impossible to say the older greats would even have half the impact in the modern game. You could make an argument about Baresi, but Nesta and Maldini already played in the modern game. Are you also going to say the likes of Stam, Carvalho, Ferdinand, Vidic, Cannavaro, Lucio, and Puyol wouldn't have half the impact today? Edited September 13, 2021 by Blues Forever Link to post Share on other sites
Jap Si. 50 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 21 hours ago, nyikolajevics said: These comparisions are pointless IMO. How do you compare Thiago Silva who is active to Baresi who played in the 1980-90s? Based on what? I am agreeing all sport change in 30 years an 18 year old Steffi Graf would not win a game against Emma Rad. Link to post Share on other sites
NikkiCFC 6,589 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Blues Forever said: You could make an argument about Baresi, but Nesta and Maldini already played in the modern game. Are you also going to say the likes of Stam, Carvalho, Ferdinand, Vidic, Cannavaro, Lucio, and Puyol wouldn't have half the impact today? I think Vidic would have a lot of trouble today. Basically like Zouma. Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Forever 1,010 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: I think Vidic would have a lot of trouble today. Basically like Zouma. Vidic would only have a lot of trouble in a possession based football. Place Vidic in correct system like Juve/Atletico and he would be a monster. Edited September 13, 2021 by Blues Forever Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,958 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: I think Vidic would have a lot of trouble today. Basically like Zouma. not a chance, he is one of the greatest CB's ever to play in England 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kong 1,568 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Blues Forever said: You could make an argument about Baresi, but Nesta and Maldini already played in the modern game. Are you also going to say the likes of Stam, Carvalho, Ferdinand, Vidic, Cannavaro, Lucio, and Puyol wouldn't have half the impact today? What I am saying is its impossible to know because we will never find out. Link to post Share on other sites
Warning_Hazard 155 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Probably my MOTM today. Superb. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chelsea_4_eva 860 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 OHHHH THIAGO SILVAAA What a monster perfomance by this man! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Lamps 10,445 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 He looks sharp af. Two outstanding PL performances back to back. He was out against Spurs fastest player - son- and shepherd him wide. For the goal he comfortably outjumped Ali a player 5cm taller and 13 years younger . Maybe he even has another world class year in him. Surely still has the fitness Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,195 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Andreas will have to wait before he becomes first choice. We are seeing one of the all time greats here still schooling much faster attackers Link to post Share on other sites
nyikolajevics 2,154 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 If he keeps performing this well, maybe should consider renew his contract for one more year. When healthy, still outstanding. His knowledge and vision is still unique, I don’t see why not. Link to post Share on other sites
NikkiCFC 6,589 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I agree. And with World Cup in winter next year he would be also open to it I think. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Simon1991 192 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I can't remember seeing another central defender with that much composure on the ball, he is simply outstanding. If only we had signed him a few years before. Link to post Share on other sites
robsblubot 2,719 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) Could not cope with the quickness of city players. Hope it’s just early season form, but looked his age against city, I have to say. you know reading some posts today made me convinced I literally watched a different game. We actually played way better than city instead of been pinned down in our own half for most of the match. And we actually won! Silly me again. Edited September 26, 2021 by robsblubot 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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