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1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

Were Werner and Ziyech even presented with shirt? I thought they are saving for all of them to pose together, but Ig is full of Chilwell posing and interviews...its funny how it looks now that Chilwell is the biggest signing so farūüėĄ

Werner and Ziyech weren't even in the country at the time of signing. And I'd assume sponsorship reasons play a part too. New shirt sponsorship with 3 only started in July so the club probably didn't want to present them with the old shirt and Yokohama sponsorship.

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Tears in my eyes. Finally a proper left back. 

Don't want to kneejerk too soon but if he keeps this up this will be my worst misjudgement ever, and I've made some in my time.

10 hours ago, Stats said:

I remember when Leicester beat us season before the one that just ended. Was looking back at my comments on his performance: Just under 2 years later we have signed him :)

Football is a funny old game. Hopefully he locks down this position for years to come and becomes England's main LB too.

 

 

Ben certainly has ability, and ability is the part of the equation which can't be taught or learned. Having it is therefore a very good starting point. This transfer hasn't yet generated any excitement for me but I'm hoping Ben will change that once he gets fit.

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I think he'll make us better to watch. Far better athlete than even Emerson let alone Alonso. Has better dribbling and passing. I expect our build up on the left is gonna improve massively.

His actual crossing seems average, neither great or terrible but playing with Vardy may help Werner. Chilwell would often play long balls into channels for Vardy so thats a way to play the long wall that suits Werner.

Defensively he'll be frustrating imo but I'm assuming he will approve *somewhat* given his age the question is whether he improves enough.



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9 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said:

I think he'll make us better to watch. Far better athlete than even Emerson let alone Alonso. Has better dribbling and passing. I expect our build up on the left is gonna improve massively.

Ben's choice of passing and his pass execution are aspects of his game which have received particular criticism on Foxestalk. For example, they say he chooses to go backwards too often when options to go forward are available. I give a lot of weight to fan opinion; how many pundits know the Chelsea squad better than we who watch every game they play? The same goes for team X, and fans of team X.

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6 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Ben's choice of passing and his pass execution are aspects of his game which have received particular criticism on Foxestalk. For example, they say he chooses to go backwards too often when options to go forward are available. I give a lot of weight to fan opinion; how many pundits know the Chelsea squad better than we who watch every game they play? The same goes for team X, and fans of team X.

Funnily enough, Chilwell passes backward less than Alonso and forward more than Alonso. The 2019/20 Premier League Distribution Comparison below...

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^^Firstly, I'm not offering my own opinion, just reporting what committed Leicester fans have said. For all I know, had I watched the performances they have, I would have disagreed with them.

I'm not a big believer in stats. The 'metric' (in reality it's no such thing) I prefer is opportunity cost. When I'm trying to assess a player I'm constantly asking if I could reasonably have expected him to do better in that situation? How many players can I think of who I think would have done better there? I'm less interested in forward or back, than in good choice or  bad choice. I don't care how often a player shoots, I only care whether or not the choice to shoot was a better option than any pass which might have been available.

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Ben's choice of passing and his pass execution are aspects of his game which have received particular criticism on Foxestalk. For example, they say he chooses to go backwards too often when options to go forward are available. I give a lot of weight to fan opinion; how many pundits know the Chelsea squad better than we who watch every game they play? The same goes for team X, and fans of team X.
Fair point about his choice of passing I haven't watched him that much to say anything what I would say is that his passing is quicker, more crisp than our two.



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8 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said:

Fair point about his choice of passing I haven't watched him that much to say anything what I would say is that his passing is quicker, more crisp than our two.



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I agree, the bar isn't set too high although I think I've always liked Marcos better than many here.

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His pace and athleticism I think will be seen as a big difference this coming season.

We attacked far too much down the right hand side last season and not only left us lop sided and predictable but on the right hand side we also had two right footed players in Willian and either Azpi or James both looking to get into the same crossing position.

I believe that Lampard's recruitment has revolved around arming ourselves with players that can attack all the different attacking channels and positions, making us much more difficult to defend against.

The left hand side I would expect to see Chilwell and then Pulisic or CHO and the right hand side James/Azpi and Ziyech or Havertz. So the two attacking players playing on the opposite flank to their strong foot, with the opportunities to cut or drift inside for a shot or cross from a different angle and two full backs prepared to overlap and provide the width.

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15 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

His pace and athleticism I think will be seen as a big difference this coming season.

We attacked far too much down the right hand side last season and not only left us lop sided and predictable but on the right hand side we also had two right footed players in Willian and either Azpi or James both looking to get into the same crossing position.

I believe that Lampard's recruitment has revolved around arming ourselves with players that can attack all the different attacking channels and positions, making us much more difficult to defend against.

The left hand side I would expect to see Chilwell and then Pulisic or CHO and the right hand side James/Azpi and Ziyech or Havertz. So the two attacking players playing on the opposite flank to their strong foot, with the opportunities to cut or drift inside for a shot or cross from a different angle and two full backs prepared to overlap and provide the width.

Just like Bayern who we should be emulating. The high pressing, the wing play, the overlapping fullbacks, and quick transitions. Hoping Lamps models his style of play that way.

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4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

BC really sounds daft as a brush in his first interview, using "massive", "stuff" and "you know" twice in every sentence. I hope his not as stupid as Barkley on the pitch.

He hangouts with Drinkwater, what do you expect?

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12 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

BC really sounds daft as a brush in his first interview, using "massive", "stuff" and "you know" twice in every sentence. I hope his not as stupid as Barkley on the pitch.

 

7 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

He hangouts with Drinkwater, what do you expect?

JFC! Aren't you lot being somewhat judgmental here? 

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1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

Don't worry about it @Jason some members had fucking bullets ready for Chilwell before he even signed.

I hope Werner and Havertz don't turn out to be as stupid as Rudiger on the pitch considering they hang out with him...

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He can sound as daft as he wants as long as he delivers on the pitch. Thats the important thing, why people care what someone sounds like or what their IQ is or who they kick about with or how many cars they have or whatever when their paid to kick a football is beyond me, just freakishly weird. As long as he doesn't do anything stupid off the park and does well on it, I dont care about anything else. That should be the criteria for footballers. Nothing else really. He will be an improvement on our other LBs. 50m not bad compared to the 80m we were first told to pay. 

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