Azpinator 2,325 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I respect and appreciate his efforts and contributions, but it's fair to say he's had his chance. 7 years are enough for a player with a more-sensitive playing position. xPetrCechx, The Mak and semiller1313 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Once again, this Mikel moving to gala stuff is completely baseless. Just a bunch of Nigerian/African papers/editors making up stuff to big up their player. Come next year, he will still be here.He will eventually become like Malouda, asked to find a new club, gets no satisfactory offers and then relegated to reserves and made to train with the youth squads. <You heard it here first>If he is indeed on or around 80K a week, then yeah you are dead on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I'd be sad if this move goes through because Mikel is actually a beast of a DM in FIFA In FM aswell: 20 strenght !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 My reaction to this.She's a Starcraft 2 fan I think i'm in love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Now the English media are slowly picking up on the Mikel to Galatasaray rumours...Galatasaray confident they can convince Chelsea's John Obi Mikel to reunite with Blues pal Drogba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 For the dog?You are so funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Mikel MetsajCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 It is really sad watching older games and john obi mikel play and you could see he is a shadow of the player he was.. if we can get anything between 15-20m euros for him I say we take it. I don't have hate for the player and I will not celebrate his departure if he does leave but I do believe it is time for us to go in a different direction w/out him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujo101 75 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I've always wondered what kind of player he was before reaching Chelsea. Did JM turn him into a defensive midfielder and curb his attacking mentality? I hate saying this but I've never seen him as a top class defensive midfielder and £12m+ would be a decent deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 What a great manager Jose is ,back at the club for less than a month and he has already identified a major problem within the club and has obviously told Mikel he can go ,that is why he is referred to as the special one,no messing ,great times ahead for us. Back Chelsea for the league with Jose back one league title in seven years was not good enough during his spell away. bleed_blue and IliyaDamyanov 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I've always wondered what kind of player he was before reaching Chelsea. Did JM turn him into a defensive midfielder and curb his attacking mentality? I hate saying this but I've never seen him as a top class defensive midfielder and £12m+ would be a decent deal.We really did big time. He used to be the number 9. In 2005 he was being compared with Messi after he bettered him in the Fifa championship. He wasn't only comparing to Messi but was held in higher regard to most of those talented players including Aguero One does wonder where Mikel would have been today had he signed for United... laura90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 What a great manager Jose is ,back at the club for less than a month and he has already identified a major problem within the club and has obviously told Mikel he can go ,that is why he is referred to as the special one,no messing ,great times ahead for us. Back Chelsea for the league with Jose back one league title in seven years was not good enough during his spell away. it doesn't take a special one to notice that Mikel is hindering us, but i agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 What a great manager Jose is ,back at the club for less than a month and he has already identified a major problem within the club and has obviously told Mikel he can go ,that is why he is referred to as the special one,no messing ,great times ahead for us. Back Chelsea for the league with Jose back one league title in seven years was not good enough during his spell away. The deal is far from being done, so I don't know why you're pretending an offer has been accepted and that because there hasn't. Mikel isn't a major problem. Who brought Mikel to the club? It was Jose. Mikel was always a Jose project and chances are that Jose will actually keep him around. What will you say about JM then? Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 The deal is far from being done, so I don't know why you're pretending an offer has been accepted and that because there hasn't. Mikel isn't a major problem. Who brought Mikel to the club? It was Jose.Mikel was always a Jose project and chances are that Jose will actually keep him around. What will you say about JM then?He'll praise Jose for "fixing" Mikel. It'll be hypocrisy all the way but we're already used to that anyway. SeB, Beigl and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 If 20 million is on the table Mikel will be gone ,Rafa had him worked out and left him out of the team ,Mikel is deluded his comments about being too good for the Europa League were ubelievable considering his useless efforts were a massive factor in us being there in the first place,if Jose is half the manager I know he is he will know the score on Mikel and he will be gone and I will drink a glass of champagne that we are finally rid of this coward of a player .I can see Mikel causing the frist conflict at the club between Jose and Emenalo ,we have a problem here ,at Rafa's first press conference he announced that Mikel had been given a 5 year contract ,Benitez did not give him a five year contract ,by the time Benitez had left he had worked Mikel out and dropped him ,even Ake was playing in front of Mikel v Everton . Now my guess is Emenalo played a big part in Mikel getting a five year deal ,Benitez obviously did not rate Mikel and is a top manager ,what if Jose does not rate Mikel ,will Emenalo like this ? . In my opinion Jose needs to have control of this issue and Emenalo top coach of womans football teams,should continue to work as a scout and leave the team to Jose . Lets hope this has been agreed and Emenalo knows his place as director of football /scout, not manager of the team . Without this having been clarified I can see problems as Emenalo obviously rates Mikel and is his mate, hence the five year contract when we were managerless. If Jose rates Mikel then OK ,no problem. But Rafa obviously did not .It already happened under Benitez and we went on a great run securing third place when many thought we would not and winning the Europa League ,Rafa embarrased Mikel, to have a kid play in your place in an important game is a big insult ,Benitez had made up his mind on Mikel ,even Lampard who we were told could not play 2 games a week was playing three at the end. Luiz,Lampard,Ramires,Ake were all in front of Mikel at the end of the season ,he was dropped.Very good reasons why this is true from the Chelsea point of view , Mourinho is one of the worlds best coaches he will have recognised how poor Mikel is and it will come as no surprise to me that Mikel is amongst the first players he will want rid of.Mourinho will not have come back to Chelsea without guarantees on his dominance of all things to do with the team and the players in the team as well as the players we sign and sell. I am not sure in the recent past our managers have had total control over who plays ,Jose will have this.I am sure Galatasary and any other club who are interested in Mikel will be given encouragement to make a bid and I think Galatasary have probably made an enquiry and been given the green light . It is great to have Jose back making the right calls at Chelsea once again ,cant wait for the season to start .What a great manager Jose is ,back at the club for less than a month and he has already identified a major problem within the club and has obviously told Mikel he can go ,that is why he is referred to as the special one,no messing ,great times ahead for us.Back Chelsea for the league with Jose back one league title in seven years was not good enough during his spell away.It's extremely obvious that you don't like Mikel and want him gone but seriously, you have basically been just spouting the same nonsense and generic comments with plenty of assumptions in it about Mikel over and over and over again. Some of these things you have said in recent days are getting tiresome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyflashman 187 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Mikel has always been a better player as the sole holding player in a 433. 4231 is a less good formation for him as it gives him added responsibility to create from deep, whereas before he could distribute to the two central midfielders ahead of him. 4231 doesn't play to his strengths, but I think he's an excellent player when his strengths are catered for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Why are people ignoring this? It's nowhere near done.Men willingly believe what they wish. - Julius Caesar SinineUltra, The Skipper, yuvala and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 It's extremely obvious that you don't like Mikel and want him gone but seriously, you have basically been just spouting the same nonsense and generic comments with plenty of assumptions in it about Mikel over and over and over again. Some of these things you have said in recent days are getting tiresome! You got it in one and so do many others and one of my points proved you completely wrong about Benitez dropping Mikel . Lets see what Jose does ,but I am convinced a special manager will make the correct decision and the word is he already has ,but time will tell . If you are talking about Mikel's future we are all making assumptions because your assumption that Jose will keep him is just that . My view that Mikel is a poor footballer is not an assumption it is an opinion and I could also copy and paste many threads where you are talking him up, it is not that clever . However I am convinced Mourinho has seen what I and many others have seen in Mikel the Chlesea player and he is surplus to requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I'm finding it odd that when people criticise Mikel and get excited about a potential departure (which as supporters of this club, they have every right to do) without name calling or immaturity towards other members who do want Mikel to stay, that the members who 'defend' Mikel (and want him to stay) are the ones to then launch personal 'attacks' on people & say that they lack intelligence and are only posting in this thread when it suits their agenda. The same ones who suggest that they understand his role more than others due to some superior level of knowledge or maturity are posting snidey comments in this thread just because some of us want a player gone and then they act like peace-makers in other threads to get 'likes' and feel superior. Stop it. It's embarrassing. Of course there's a few people who want him gone who're retaliating and getting involved in the immaturity themselves but it really is more these 'respected' members doing the instigating in this thread; Basically coming in and saying "You guys who want Mikel gone don't know shit. I'll just like Seb's post without actually backing up my own opinion and just say I agree with him while continuing to bash your opinions."Stop going around questioning people's intelligence, calling them ignorant, saying they have an agenda and saying they're purposely making things misoncstrued when it's the fucking 'peace makers' of this forum disrupting the peace! If you have anything to say regarding Mikel, say so in here. If you want to launch personal attacks on people go to The Pub or reevaluate yourself. This is a thread to discuss opinions etc. on a player. Not discuss opinions on a member for having a certain opinion on the player. Joe Cool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 You got it in one and so do many others and one of my points proved you completely wrong about Benitez dropping Mikel.Proved me completely wrong about Benitez dropping Mikel? You are talking about the one where you pointed he was supposedly available but not picked for the Villa game?!Well, it's either you completely missed my response OR you chose to be selective and ignore it.http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/29-12-john-obi-mikel/?p=698454Lets see what Jose does ,but I am convinced a special manager will make the correct decision and the word is he already has but time will tell.If you are talking about Mikel's future we are all making assumptions because your assumption that Jose will keep him is just that.I don't think everyone is making assumptions here at all. It's just that those who don't rate Mikel are already celebrating as if assuming he has already been sold or WILL be sold when there's hardly anything concrete to it yet.My view that Mikel is a poor footballer is not an assumption it is an opinion and I could also copy and paste many threads where you are talking him up, it is not that clever.Err, excuse me?! Since when I have talked up Mikel in this thread or even in recent times?! All I've been doing is basically refuting other members' point about using unfair judgment/views/statistics to judge Mikel. Have you seen me talking up Mikel's strengths and what he gives to the team etc? No. I have my views about Mikel and I can see where both sides' argument are coming from but what I dislike is when people start to criticize Mikel or any other player for that matter unfairly without any context whatsoever.Also, when I said your posts previously had assumptions on Mikel, I meant you talking as if Mourinho will toss him out because he's supposedly a great manager when no one, at this point, would know how he'll evaluate Mikel yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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