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1 minute ago, manpe said:

Is there any stat about how many goals he's scored from offside?

Off the top of my head - Spurs (h), Newcastle (a), Leicester (a), Liverpool (a), Leicester (h).

The one at Anfield was stupid. The ones against Spurs and at Leicester were tight. The ones against Newcastle and Leicester tonight were blatant offside. 

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Werner has never been the most clinical of players. Last season in the Bundesliga he recorded 20 big chances missed, only second to Lewandowski at 24. That said, it comes with the territory. He's

Really taking the piss now 

he has a real mentality off the field but also different level on it. Hard doesn't faze him, but he's a killer, he is going to get tons of goals this season.

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3 minutes ago, Jas said:

Off the top of my head - Spurs (h), Newcastle (a), Leicester (a), Liverpool (a), Leicester (h).

The one at Anfield was stupid. The ones against Spurs and at Leicester were tight. The ones against Newcastle and Leicester tonight were blatant offside. 

2 more at city 

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2 more at city 

Oh yes, of course. lol

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4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

His attitude is crazy positive. He just is not fuzzed by all those misses 

That's crazy indeed lol. Imagine Morata...

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I do like him! He tries! Just a shame that has the habit of missing or sodding being offside!

Hopefully next season he'll be offside less lol..make things happen and baaaam

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15 minutes ago Jas said:

LMAO

 

Brilliant 🤣

Hope he spends the summer learning the offside rule though. For his speed, being offside as frequently, not good

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Lol this guy is funny knew he handed it, still went to slide celebrate.

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28 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

His attitude is crazy positive. He just is not fuzzed by all those misses 

He mentioned in an interview not too long ago that those misses, the lack of goals were affecting him earlier this season. But he then sort of made peace with it that maybe this season is just not his season in front of goal and tries to make sure he helps the team in other ways like providing assists if he's not scoring. 

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At the very least he's made a complete mockery of people who used to defend Torres because at least he used to try hard. 

His work rate for the team is exceptional and whilst he's still struggled in front of goal, I definitely believe that he is adjusting more to the league than earlier in the season and I still feel that he'll come good. He's not one that hides, which is huge because when things weren't going right the likes of Torres and Morata left us effectively playing with 10 men in many games.

In my opinion we look a better team with him in it, which is probably the biggest compliment he could be given currently.

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hace 6 minutos, Jas dijo:

He mentioned in an interview not too long ago that those misses, the lack of goals were affecting him earlier this season. But he then sort of made peace with it that maybe this season is just not his season in front of goal and tries to make sure he helps the team in other ways like providing assists if he's not scoring. 

Just a pity he couldn’t do it earlier in the season.

That was a big issue for me under Frank playing off the left. He still had the freedom to come in at times but he looked very very nervous/had disbelief in his own ability at times. 

Obviously still not perfect, we need him to get his offside awareness sorted, there was an offside tonight from one of Jorginho’s pass which was poor, also the same as the game v City I think it was a similar pass/situation too. 

hace 3 minutos, Superblue_1986 dijo:

At the very least he's made a complete mockery of people who used to defend Torres because at least he used to try hard. 

His work rate for the team is exceptional and whilst he's still struggled in front of goal, I definitely believe that he is adjusting more to the league than earlier in the season and I still feel that he'll come good. He's not one that hides, which is huge because when things weren't going right the likes of Torres and Morata left us effectively playing with 10 men in many games.

In my opinion we look a better team with him in it, which is probably the biggest compliment he could be given currently.

Unfortunately I have to agree. It was so clear after the Arsenal game too.

The work rate thing though I remember when Torres had a weird patch with Jose, doing the donkey work and it seemed to ease people a bit although we still expected not much in goal returns but at least it was closer like playing with 10.5 men than 10 😂. I suppose fans appreciate people who if its not going well trying to do the donkey work, do a job for the team. That was a big issue for Morata at times, even when he did try he’d end up getting stupid bookings or conceding daft fouls. Also Bakayoko in CM just absolutely naive and forgetting he had to do both sides of the game when he couldn’t trap the fucking thing 🤣

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He's bothered about his misses, you could hear that in his interview last night, but also, he brushes it off because he knows and we know he works like a dog off the ball and is a real team player.

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Sooner or later he has to improve his goalscoring form if he wants to make it here. I'll admit even if his finishing is extremely disappointing in general, he also appears to have the worst of luck. However, I really hate it when people say: "Well, at least he works his arse off". That's not good enough from the player who should be our main goal threat. I've heard it many times before and it never ends well.

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23 minutes ago, different level said:

Sooner or later he has to improve his goalscoring form if he wants to make it here. I'll admit even if his finishing is extremely disappointing in general, he also appears to have the worst of luck. However, I really hate it when people say: "Well, at least he works his arse off". That's not good enough from the player who should be our main goal threat. I've heard it many times before and it never ends well.

Agree. I don't know he has been cursed or we have been cursed or whatever but even when he was missing chances in the Bundesliga, his big chance conversion rate was never as bad as this season:

2016/17 - 67%

2017/18 - 30%

2018/19 - 31.3%

2019/20 - 46.2%

2020/21 - 22.7%

He has clearly shown that he can score goals but whether he can do so consistently remains to be seen. One can only hope his luck changes next season.

And that is why we also need to sign a #9. That would help take the pressure off Werner - and maybe see him do better as a result of it - and ease our worries! Because if we take aside those misses (not to say they're excusable), his goal and assist tallies aren't bad for someone who is a more of an inside forward/a second striker but of course it's bad if we look at him as the main #9, the main goal source etc.

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Any more arguments of player X should be playing ahead of Werner should be finally put to bed. Not one of our attack has performed at a consistent level to be a regular starter. 

Havertz missing a sitter vs Arsenal. Mount invisible in the big games. Ziyech lackluster. Pulisic missing a sitter vs Villa. CHO and his horrid decision making. 

This argument should now be dead in the water. 

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5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Any more arguments of player X should be playing ahead of Werner should be finally put to bed. Not one of our attack has performed at a consistent level to be a regular starter. 

Havertz missing a sitter vs Arsenal. Mount invisible in the big games. Ziyech lackluster. Pulisic missing a sitter vs Villa. CHO and his horrid decision making. 

This argument should now be dead in the water. 

Werner is in his prime and not performing, while he is one of the greatest Bundesliga players to ever play Bundesliga, even though I never rated him. We just lack world class players. We only have Silva and Kante, who are truly world class

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scored an offside goal again and was not even his fault lol. guy cant catch a break.

fluffed two shots where clean contact probably would have meant a goal. His crosses were mostly terrible apart from one instance. If he scores a winner in the CL final everything will be forgiven ofc.

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