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On 09/07/2021 at 10:02, manpe said:

@Vesper what are your thoughts on the Janssen vaccine? I'm thinking of getting that bc it's only one shot. 

 

I would advise to get either of the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer or Moderna)

the Johnson & Johnson vaccine (aka Janssen) has less efficacy against multiple variants (although it is decent against Delta) and is now showing further possible side effects (although very rare) as well

that all said

it is FAR better than nothing, so IF it is the only one you can get, then go for it

FDA adds new warning on Johnson & Johnson vaccine related to rare autoimmune disorder

The agency cites link to a small number of Guillain-Barré cases after vaccination but says the shot’s benefits outweigh the risk

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/12/johnson-and-johnson-warning/

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Guys, i just want to say, take care of yourselves and your families during this horrible pandemic, stay safe always and God bless you all. Hug 🙏💪👊

In the US people queue up to buy guns. In the Netherlands thousands of people were today queueing to buy weed before all coffee shops (and restaurants, cafes etc.) closed down at 6pm and will remain s

Good article - history shows governments are really slow to withdraw big brother state apparatus and surveillance when emergencies are over. Theyre also quite keen for everyone to have the Covid

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'Killing kids to own the libs': Americans horrified after Tennessee shuts down all child vaccination programs

https://www.rawstory.com/vaccine-tennessee/

Tennessee Republicans' war against childhood vaccinations reached a new level on Tuesday after Tennessean reported that the state's health department "will halt all adolescent vaccine outreach – not just for coronavirus, but all diseases – amid pressure from Republican state lawmakers."

The halt to child vaccine programs comes just one day after Tennessee's top vaccine official was fired for what she claimed were her efforts to promote COVID-19 vaccinations for teenagers.

That firing came weeks after Republican Tennessee State Rep. Scott Cepicky held a public hearing in which he attacked the department for making fliers encouraging "impressionable" teens to get vaccinated.

The latest move, as reported by Tennessean, will shut down all vaccination drives in public schools and will stop sending "postcards or other notices reminding teenagers to get their second dose of the coronavirus vaccines."

The revelations about Tennessee going full anti-vax drew horrified reactions -- check some out below.

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Forrest's Confederate forces were accused of subjecting Union captured soldiers to extreme brutality, with allegations of back-shooting soldiers who fled into the river, shooting wounded soldiers, burning men alive, nailing men to barrels and igniting them, crucifixion, and hacking men to death with sabers.

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U.S. COVID Cases Double in 3 Weeks As Delta Variant Spreads

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/07/covid-cases-double-in-three-weeks-as-delta-variant-spreads.html

After months of precipitous decline in COVID-19 cases thanks to the vaccines made widely available in the United States, the number of new cases per day is on the rise again. According to data from John Hopkins, the seven-day average of positive tests doubled from 11,300 on June 23 to over 24,000 on Wednesday.

The primary driver for the increase in cases is the more transmissable Delta variant, which in early July began to make up the majority of new infections in the U.S. “When the Delta strain appeared, it rapidly became the dominant strain,” pediatric infectious-disease expert Dr. Andrew T. Pavia told CNBC. “If you think about what it means to have a virus take over that rapidly, it means that it is the most fit virus, that it is spreading more efficiently, that it is spreading in pockets that are unvaccinated, and it’s causing a lot of disease and a lot of stress.”

The overlap of a more contagious virus and pockets of vaccine hesitancy has also caused a serious uptick in states where vaccination rates lag behind the rest of the country. As the Associated Press notes, the five states with the largest two-week jump in cases per capita had lower vaccination rates than the national average of 55.6 percent of Americans who have received at least one shot: Missouri at 45.9 percent, Arkansas at 43 percent, Nevada at 50.9 percent, Louisiana at 39.2 percent, and Utah at 49.5 percent. CDC director Rochelle P. Walensky stated last week that 93 percent of the 173 counties with the highest infection rates have less than 40 percent of residents vaccinated.

However, low vaccination rates aren’t the only factor at play, as all but two states (Maine and South Dakota) have seen their cases rise in the past two weeks. Public-health experts also note that behavior appears to have driven cases up. “It is certainly no coincidence that we are looking at exactly the time that we would expect cases to be occurring after the July Fourth weekend,” Dr. Bill Powderly, co-director of the infectious-disease division at Washington University’s School of Medicine in St. Louis, told the AP.

At this point in the pandemic — with over 90 percent of American seniors vaccinated — there are some concerns that daily caseloads are not the most important metric for tracking the spread of the coronavirus in a nation where the population is now at far less risk of hospitalization or death, as New York’s David Wallace-Wells wrote yesterday. Still, deaths are at an average of 260 per day and are taking their toll almost exclusively among the unvaccinated population: According to NIAID director Dr. Anthony Fauci, over 99 percent of those who died from the coronavirus in June had not received the vaccine. To help boost vaccination rates in states where they are lacking, several Republican leaders have come forward urging residents to get vaccinated — countering the vaccine skepticism broadcast on television on a nightly basis. “If you’re a football fan, we’re in the red zone” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. “But we’re not in the end zone yet. And we need to keep preaching that getting the vaccine is important.”

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well fuck 😞

'Pfizer COVID vaccine significantly less effective against Delta variant'

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/for-first-time-since-march-855-new-coronavirus-cases-in-israel-674084

The effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine against the Delta variant is “weaker” than health officials hoped, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said Friday, as 855 people tested positive for coronavirus and more countries were listed as places of high infection.
 
“We do not know exactly to what degree the vaccine helps, but it is significantly less,” Bennett said.
 
The prime minister held a meeting of top health officials and ministers to discuss the next steps for managing the virus in light of the numbers in Israel and what Bennett described as “the Delta mutation leaping forward around the world, including in vaccinated countries such as Britain, Israel and the US.”
 
He said that in “Britain, in recent days, we have seen a jump in the number of children who are being hospitalized on a daily basis. This is a development that we are aware of; we are dealing with it rationally and responsibly.”
 
The highest number of coronavirus cases since March was diagnosed on Thursday, with 1.52% of tests returning positive, the Health Ministry said in a Friday announcement. 
 
While the spike in daily cases continues, the increase in serious morbidity has remained limited.
 
Of those infected, 52 were in serious condition, two less than the day before. A week earlier, there were 41. In April, with about 5,900 active cases, a similar number as now, more than 340 patients were in serious condition.
 
The likely explanation is that among the current virus carriers, some 2,000 are schoolchildren, and half of them were fully vaccinated. Both groups are very unlikely to develop severe forms of the disease, even though it occasionally happens – at the moment, around 60% of the patients in serious conditions were vaccinated.
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Getting really tired of this fucking pandemic. Just when things were going in the right direction at where I live, there's suddenly an explosion of cases and clusters and I have to hold myself back from going out too much, especially when I haven't gotten my second jab!

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British anti-vaxxer warns NHS doctors and nurses of execution by hanging for administering life-saving vaccines

https://www.rawstory.com/anti-vaxxer-2653941555/

Anti-vaxxer warns doctors and nurses of execution by hanging for administering life-saving vaccines

The conspiracy theories promoted by anti-vaccine activists reached a fevered pitch during a Saturday rally.

Conspiracy theorist Kate Shemirani suggested there could be Nuremberg-like trials where doctors and nurses would be hanged for administering the coronavirus vaccines, which promoted one British doctor to alert London's Metropolitan Police Service.

Shayan Sardarizadeh, who covers online disinformation, conspiracy theories and extremism for the BBC, posted a thread documenting the rally:

 

 

 

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Vaccine sceptics and anti-maskers are sucking down horse paste promoted by Trump's 'alien DNA' doctor

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-bogus-cure/

Vaccine skeptics and anti-maskers are sucking down horse paste promoted by Trump's 'alien DNA' doctor

Vaccine skeptics and anti-maskers are instead sucking down horse paste — the latest snake-oil "miracle cure" — once they become sick with COVID-19, resulting in an increase in calls to poison control centers, the Daily Beast reported Friday.

 

The horse paste contains ivermectin, which is normally used to treat parasites in humans and livestock but is now being prescribed by quack doctors and promoted in online forums as the latest version of the Trumpian drug hydroxychloroquine.

One of the groups behind the ivermectin craze is America's Frontline Doctors, the Trump-promoted Texas group that includes accused Capitol insurrectionist Dr. Simone Gold and "alien DNA" specialist Dr. Stella Immanuel.

"Devotees have besieged pharmacists with prescriptions from shady online prescribers, forcing pharmacies to crack down and treat the antiparasitic drugs like opioids," the Daily Beast reports. "As human-approved ivermectin prescriptions have been harder to come by, enthusiasts have taken to raiding rural tractor supply stores in search of ivermectin horse paste (packed with 'apple flavor!') and weighed the benefits of taking ivermectin 'sheep drench' and a noromectin 'injection for swine and cattle.'"

As far as its efficacy in treating COVID-19, invermectin remains unproven. Studies touted in support of the drug were later withdrawn or heavily criticized due to errors, leading experts to conclude that further randomized trials are needed. The FDA, meanwhile, has cautioned people against taking drugs intended for large animals because they are highly concentrated.

 

A Texas-based poison control specialist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of repercussions, told the Daily Beast that while there isn't an epidemic of ivermectin overdoses, there has been a noticeable increase in calls.

"The irony is, in a severe ivermectin overdose patients will end up needing to be intubated to protect their airway, meanwhile, a lot of them are taking the ivermectin to allegedly treat their COVID… to avoid ultimately being intubated and placed on a ventilator," the poison control specialist said.

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Today in British Dumbfukistan.....

 

Attorney Leslie Lawrenson was found dead of covid at his home in Dorset, UK in June. At the time, not big news.

However, the ‘Evening Standard’ just found a video he posted to Facebook 9 days before he died, saying he was glad he got it so he can prove it isn’t that bad. Watch!

 

 

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I have a phd in evolutionary bioligy.

 

The vaccine WILL make this situation worse and worse until it evolves enough to kill all sorts regardless of being vaccinated.

Mindless guff about 'your dumb' and this and that for being skeptical about a new type of genetic vaccine that hasnt had long term trial is frankly absurd.

Ivermectin has been proven to cure river blindness in africa and has won a nobel prize, Its very cheap and is now being properly trialed as a treatment for covid.

Dr pierre Kory literally got de platformed for showing how he had been using ivermectin to save intensive care patients with covid over and over.

Take the vaccine as a therapeutic not a cure.

Wait for the boosters!

Sweden never even locked down! How they doing?!! All dead?! LOL

Big pharma does it again!

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23 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/epn8j4/antivax-semen-fertility-covid-vaccine-safe

Antivaxers Think Their ‘Pure’ Semen Will Skyrocket in Value

"I’m going to retire as a 'cum cow' 🐄" one person wrote in a thread about the sperm theory. 

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I thought the situation is going to get better once vaccination rates have gone. But this does not seem case. It's surging even in countries with high vac rates. It's really depressing really.

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23 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/epn8j4/antivax-semen-fertility-covid-vaccine-safe

Antivaxers Think Their ‘Pure’ Semen Will Skyrocket in Value

It's ridiculous how in the 21st century, people will believe such crap. It's ridiculous, and is why the world is falling apart now.

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27 minutes ago, MouSpirit said:

I thought the situation is going to get better once vaccination rates have gone. But this does not seem case. It's surging even in countries with high vac rates. It's really depressing really.

It is rapidly becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated. The US is a shit-show, as they only have 50.9% of the adult population fully vaxxed, and the Republican governors and other officials in their states (especially Florida and Texas, which are the epicentres of 'politics by death cult') are actively blocking and/or discouraging masking and vaxxing in a myriad numbers of ways.

DeSantis' (the vermin Rethug governor of Florida), biggest donor is a hedge fund executive who invests in Regeneron, one of the therapeutics most effective at COVID disease mitigation. DeSantis is actively blocking masking everywhere in the state, and downplaying vaccines, AND pushing Regeneron as all you need. Its a multi-million dollar grift, and so many are dying because of it. Florida alone accounts for over 35% of all US current COVID deaths, despite being only 6.5% of the US population.

 

DeSantis top donor invests in COVID drug governor promotes

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-4d0d18b24e0dd41de2424e19b3ed994f

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis — who has been criticized for opposing mask mandates and vaccine passports — is now touting a COVID-19 antibody treatment in which a top donor’s company has invested millions of dollars.

DeSantis has been flying around the state promoting a monoclonal antibody treatment sold by Regeneron, which was used on then-President Donald Trump after he tested positive for COVID-19. The governor first began talking about it as a treatment last year.

Citadel, a Chicago-based hedge fund, has $15.9 million in shares of Regeneron Pharmaceutical Inc., according to filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Citadel CEO Ken Griffin has donated $10.75 million to a political committee that supports DeSantis — $5.75 million in 2018 and $5 million last April.

It’s not unusual for hedge funds to have a wide range of investments. And BlackRock, which has primarily donated to Democratic candidates, though has also donated substantially to Republicans, has a large holding in the company - more so than Citadel.

DeSantis ramped up the call for Floridians to seek out monoclonal antibody treatments in August as coronavirus cases spiked. He’s held news conferences at treatment sites and a Tampa hospital touting the effectiveness of the drug if people receive treatment soon after testing positive.

“Early treatment with these monoclonal antibodies – Regeneron and others – have proven to radically reduce the chances that somebody ends up being hospitalized,” DeSantis said Monday at a treatment site in Orlando. “Reducing hospital admissions has got to be a top priority.”

Experts agree that keeping people out of the hospital is a top priority, but say vaccines — not treatments for people after they get sick – are the best way to do that. The Regeneron drugs, when given within 10 days of initial symptoms, have been shown to cut rates of hospitalization and death by roughly 70%. The vaccines authorized for use in the U.S. have been proven in large, real-world studies to be 95% effective against hospitalization.

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