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DJIA slammed through the 20,000 support level

it almost always craters lately when Trump is live, giving his daily Coronavirus updates

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Guys, i just want to say, take care of yourselves and your families during this horrible pandemic, stay safe always and God bless you all. Hug 🙏💪👊

In the US people queue up to buy guns. In the Netherlands thousands of people were today queueing to buy weed before all coffee shops (and restaurants, cafes etc.) closed down at 6pm and will remain s

Good article - history shows governments are really slow to withdraw big brother state apparatus and surveillance when emergencies are over. Theyre also quite keen for everyone to have the Covid

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Pro-Kremlin media have been spreading disinformation about coronavirus with the aim of “aggravating” the public health crisis in the west, the European Union’s diplomatic service has concluded in a leaked report.

An EU monitoring team collected 80 examples of disinformation from Russian sources in nearly two months up to 16 March...

Reuters

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we are seeing trillions in paper wealth go POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF the past few week

up to money heaven

 

Where Exactly Is "Money Heaven"?

https://twistedeconotwist.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/where-exactly-is-money-heaven/comment-page-1/

When one of the billionaires behind the collapsed internet bank Icesave in relations to a new film was asked what happened to all the money, his answer was astonishingly nonchalant: “A lot of money goes to money-heaven,” shrugged Björgólfur Thor Björgólfsson, the London based investor who co-owned 41% of Icesave’s parent bank, Landsbanki.

“They have evaporated. It’s a common misunderstanding to ask;  where did the money go.”

Björgólfur Thor Björgólfsson

 

 

this fucker is now back to billionaire level again

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5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

In countries where its declined they have increased testing. Test, and quarantine the infected. Its not rocket surgery.

rocket surgery sounds painful

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

where I am and when have I ever wished someone dead?

that is patently absurd

I fucking hate the damn whataboutism you lot always try and play

you wear your religion on your sleeve and try and use it to play plazzy victim games

what's next? You going to go into a whinge about 'the war on Christmas'??

FFS GMAFB

and STOP trying to conflate radical communist regimes with basic social democracy

saying shite like that makes you look like a fool

that is dishonest as fuck and NO ONE is advocating for anything like the return of USSR or praising NoKo (well Trump LOVES him some Kim Jong Un)

President Trump Says He And Kim Jong-Un 'Fell In Love' | TIME

 

Now, if we want to get into death via the RW USA (and not even RW) and its historical white nationalist sentiments that people like Trump tap into

we can always take a quick tour of what happened to people of my racial makeup in the US for 400 plus years.

Hell, I would have been lynched more than likely (along with my wife) up until the 1960's in vast swathes of the southern US.

and

you said

well (and I can pull up a multiplicity of other examples)

Tennessee Pastor Who Is Also a Sheriff's Detective Calls for L.G.B.T. People to Be Executed

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/15/us/knoxville-pastor-grayson-fritts.html

 

Grayson Fritts said in a sermon that people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender were “freaks” and “worthy of death.”

Grayson Fritts said in a sermon that people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender were “freaks” and “worthy of death.”Credit...Calvin Mattheis/Knoxville News Sentinel, via Associated Press

A Tennessee pastor who is also a detective said in a sermon this month that people who were lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender were “freaks” and “worthy of death,” comments that have prompted prosecutors to review cases he has investigated.

In the sermon, delivered on June 2, the pastor, Grayson Fritts, also called for the government to send a riot team to a Pride parade scheduled for June 22 in Knoxville. He said L.G.B.T. people should be arrested, tried, and if convicted, executed.

“That’s the problem with law enforcement nowadays,” he said in a video of the sermon posted by The Tennessee Holler. “They are chasing around cookie thieves, when the real animals are on floats rolling down Gay Street.”

Mr. Fritts is a pastor at All Scripture Baptist Church, which makes its stance on homosexuality known on its website: “A person will only burn in their lust toward the same gender if they have been given over to a reprobate or rejected mind. God said homosexuality should be punished with the death penalty, as set forth in Leviticus 20:13. No homosexual will be allowed to attend or join All Scripture Baptist Church.”

Mr. Fritts is also a detective at the Knox County Sheriff’s Office. His sermon prompted the Knox County district attorney’s office to examine cases that Mr. Fritts had worked on as a detective.

 

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Salvation Army Official: Gays Deserve Death

Just in time to ruin Gay Pride month, a media relations director for the Salvation Army had no problem reminding us and the queer journalists he was talking to that gays should be put to death.  

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/06/salvation-army-official-gays-deserve-death/321193/

Just in time to ruin Gay Pride month, a media relations director for the Salvation Army had no problem reminding us and the queer journalists he was talking to that gays should be put to death. In talking to Australian queer journalists Serena Ryan and Pete Dillon on their Salt and Pepper radio show (audio below which was picked up by Truth Wins Out's John Becker),  Major Andrew Craibe, a media relations director for one of the organization's Australian branches, had this exchange with the hosts: 

Ryan: According to the Salvation Army, [gay people] deserve death. How do you respond to that, as part of your doctrine?

Craibe:  Well, that’s a part of our belief system.

Ryan: So we should die.

Craibe: You know, we have an alignment to the Scriptures, but that’s our belief.

The doctrine they're referring to is, as Queerty's Dan Avery reports, the Salvation Story: Salvationist Handbook of Doctrine, which borrows heavily from Romans 1:18-32  and states:

For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error. . .

They know God’s decree, that those who practise such things deserve to die—yet they not only do them but even applaud others who practise them.

Until this weekend, Craibe's media presence had been mostly non-existent, his last remarks that we found were about children with disabilities, social and financial disadvantages, and their visit to a zoo--not something you would expect from a guy who sounds more or less like a hate monger. 

 

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If this guy are saying that I would also be upset. 

There's no where in the new testament that says such things. 

The fact is that as I mentioned its a sin, but so also is hating your brother, saying false witness and such. And those so call Christians will also have to give account for what they say and do. 

Because the law of christ is love and any Christian who is not living in by that standard is lacking. 

Now love does not turn a blind eye but in warns. Warns you that you are going down a wrong path. 

But I apologize for those that cast hatred to you, I will not do it. 

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

lock off

and dowwwwwwwwwn she goes again

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Actually my first target to start buying some in the 401k. As per my chart I was waiting for this level. 

And then wait to see if there's more downside. To accumulate more or just wait and see how it goes from here. 

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50 minutes ago, Fernando said:

If this guy are saying that I would also be upset. 

There's no where in the new testament that says such things. 

The fact is that as I mentioned its a sin, but so also is hating your brother, saying false witness and such. And those so call Christians will also have to give account for what they say and do. 

Because the law of christ is love and any Christian who is not living in by that standard is lacking. 

Now love does not turn a blind eye but in warns. Warns you that you are going down a wrong path. 

But I apologize for those that cast hatred to you, I will not do it. 

 

I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

― Stephen Roberts

 

 

As for the New Testament and anti LGBTQ scripture

(BTW, I have NO clue why Christians follow the Old Testament, as that is a pure Jewish document (even Jesus was simply a Jewish zealot, but that is a discussion for another time). I think so many love it because it has so much of the hate, but that is just my own theoryand I am NOT applying it to you at all)

these 5 passages in particular have been used for millenium to torture and kill people like me (along with the truly wretched Old Testament text sof hate)

 

Romans 1:26-27

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.  In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

 

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

 

Timothy 1:9-10

We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine

 

Jude 1:7

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

 

Matthew 19:3

Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female',’and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?  So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

 

We can have hours of debate on this (I would so rather not), BUT even if YOU are reasonable, MILLIONS of fundie 'christians' are not at all reasonable. They are filled with rage and hate and murderous intent towards their fellow human beings like me, all because we are biologically put together different than them. Thank fuck this so-called Gay Conversion Therapy claptrap is being outlawed in most all of the advanced nations on the planet. I have no idea why so-called Christians are so interested in what the fuck happens in our bedrooms, none at all, other than they are power-mad, weak-willed pricks who fear losing their billy big bollocks patriarchal hetero-dominant power standing they have enjoyed for 10,000 plus years (starting long before there was any sort of monotheism)

Do NOT think I am only calling out christians alone BTW, so many religions are shit about this, Islam especially.

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3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Coronavirus could kill 'millions' in Iran

Iranian study suggests 3.5 million could die in Iran from coronavirus

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-coronavirus-outbreak/coronavirus-could-kill-millions-in-iran/1770364

holy fuck!!!

that is madness

:(

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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

― Stephen Roberts

 

 

As for the New Testament and anti LGBTQ scripture

(BTW, I have NO clue why Christians follow the Old Testament, as that is a pure Jewish document (even Jesus was simply a Jewish zealot, but that is a discussion for another time). I think so many love it because it has so much of the hate, but that is just my own theoryand I am NOT applying it to you at all)

these 5 passages in particular have been used for millenium to torture and kill people like me (along with the truly wretched Old Testament text sof hate)

 

Romans 1:26-27

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.  In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

 

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

 

Timothy 1:9-10

We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine

 

Jude 1:7

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

 

Matthew 19:3

Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female',’and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?  So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

 

We can have hours of debate on this (I would so rather not), BUT even if YOU are reasonable, MILLIONS of fundie 'christians' are not at all reasonable. They are filled with rage and hate and murderous intent towards their fellow humans like me, all because we are biologically put together different than them. Thank fuck this so-called Gay Conversion Therapy claptrap is being outlawed in most all of the advanced nations on the planet. I have no idea why so-called Christians are so interested in what the fuck happens in our bedrooms, none at all, other than they are power-mad, weak-willed pricks who fear losing their billy big bollocks patriarchal hetero-dominant patriarchy standing they have enjoyed for 10,000 plus years (far before there was an sort of monotheism)

Yeah I understand, and the worst thing is when something is forced. Forcing people will never worked because then your following out of fear and that is not how it's supposed to be. 

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10 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Coronavirus could kill 'millions' in Iran

Iranian study suggests 3.5 million could die in Iran from coronavirus

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-coronavirus-outbreak/coronavirus-could-kill-millions-in-iran/1770364

 

Iran warns virus could kill 'millions' in Islamic Republic

https://apnews.com/6e92d93551ee6c6ae51d0acaaad9eb32

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran issued its most dire warning yet Tuesday about the new coronavirus ravaging the country, suggesting “millions” could die in the Islamic Republic if people keep traveling and ignore health guidance.

A state TV journalist who also is a medical doctor gave the warning only hours after hard-line Shiite faithful on Monday night pushed their way into the courtyards of two major shrines that were finally closed due to the virus. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei issued a religious ruling prohibiting “unnecessary” travel.

Roughly 9 out of 10 of the over 18,000 confirmed cases of the virus in the Middle East come from Iran, where authorities denied for days the risk the outbreak posed. Officials have implemented new checks for people trying to leave major cities ahead of Nowruz, the Persian New Year, on Friday, but have hesitated to quarantine the areas.

The death toll in Iran saw another 13% increase Tuesday. Health Ministry spokesman Kianoush Jahanpour said the virus had killed 135 more people to raise the total to 988 amid over 16,000 cases. Jordan announced a state of emergency, banning gatherings of more than 10 people, and Israel issued its own strict guidelines.

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4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

holy fuck!!!

that is madness

:(

Here in the UK the governments science advisor on the virus said 20,000 would be a good outcome for the UK.  Obviously he knows far, far more me, but that figure seems optimistic in the extreme! 5 years ago we lost 27,000 to flu, so no way are we going to keep this down to anywhere near 20,000.

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7 minutes ago, Vesper said:

 

Iran warns virus could kill 'millions' in Islamic Republic

https://apnews.com/6e92d93551ee6c6ae51d0acaaad9eb32

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran issued its most dire warning yet Tuesday about the new coronavirus ravaging the country, suggesting “millions” could die in the Islamic Republic if people keep traveling and ignore health guidance.

A state TV journalist who also is a medical doctor gave the warning only hours after hard-line Shiite faithful on Monday night pushed their way into the courtyards of two major shrines that were finally closed due to the virus. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei issued a religious ruling prohibiting “unnecessary” travel.

Roughly 9 out of 10 of the over 18,000 confirmed cases of the virus in the Middle East come from Iran, where authorities denied for days the risk the outbreak posed. Officials have implemented new checks for people trying to leave major cities ahead of Nowruz, the Persian New Year, on Friday, but have hesitated to quarantine the areas.

The death toll in Iran saw another 13% increase Tuesday. Health Ministry spokesman Kianoush Jahanpour said the virus had killed 135 more people to raise the total to 988 amid over 16,000 cases. Jordan announced a state of emergency, banning gatherings of more than 10 people, and Israel issued its own strict guidelines.

Why is it so bad in Iran? 

In general why some countries are more bad then others? Iran and Italy? 

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Trump doubles down on calling coronavirus 'Chinese virus,' saying 'It's not racist at all.'

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-doubles-down-on-calling-coronavirus-chinese-virus-2020-3?r=US&IR=T

meanwhile

 

 

The Rise of Coronavirus Hate Crimes

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-uk/the-rise-of-coronavirus-hate-crimes

People wait on a train platform.

On a Monday night in late February, Jonathan Mok was walking down London’s busy Oxford Street, when he was attacked. He was kicked and punched in the face, a beating that resulted in a bruised and swollen eye the size of a golf ball, which he showed to the world in a Facebook post. Mok is twenty-three and Singaporean; he had been studying for the last two years at the University of London. The attack, which he described in his post, was brutal and racially motivated. “The guy who tried to kick me then said, ‘I don’t want your coronavirus in my country,’ ” he wrote, “before swinging another sucker punch at me, which resulted in my face exploding with blood.”

The Metropolitan Police were called to the scene, near the Tottenham Court Road tube station, around nine-fifteen in the evening. On March 6th, they called the incident “racially aggravated assault” and announced that they had arrested two teen-agers, one sixteen, the other fifteen. At the time, they were still looking for two additional men believed to have been involved, and asked the public for help in identifying them. The pictures released of the two men are difficult to make out; they’re blurry and black-and-white. One of the men wears a thick parka and holds something to his mouth. “This attack left the victim shaken and hurt,” Detective Sergeant Emma Kirby, the officer on the case, said in a statement. “There’s no room on our streets for this kind of violent behaviour and we are committed to finding the perpetrators.”

In recent days, however, as fear and anxiety about covid-19 have spread, other incidents have emerged in the U.K. and elsewhere. In New York City, on the subway, a man sprayed an Asian passenger with Febreze and verbally abused him. Last week, a Vietnamese curator, An Nguyen, posted an e-mail from a gallerist preparing to exhibit at London’s Affordable Art Fair. The gallerist asked Nguyen not to come assist with the booth. “The coronavirus is causing much anxiety everywhere, and fairly or not, Asians are being seen as carriers of the virus,” the e-mail read. “Your presence on the stand would unfortunately create hesitation on the part of the audience to enter the exhibition space.” The Affordable Art Fair later confirmed that the gallery would not be exhibiting at the fair by mutual agreement. (In another irony, many of the initial news reports on the incident used the photo and biography of the wrong An Nguyen, an artist who lives in Canada.)

When I spoke to Mike Ainsworth, the director of London services at Stop Hate U.K., an anti-hate group, he said his organization had seen a spike in hate crimes and incidents reported by Asian communities and individuals in the U.K. “There has been, for our helpline, a significant increase in calls from the Chinese community,” he said. “The incidents range from name calling, through to spitting, through to someone having been pushed in the road in the path of oncoming vehicles.” He called the increase a modest but marked one, “given that this is a community which we traditionally didn’t receive any calls from whatsoever.” He also noted “an upturn in concern and fear” from the Chinese community in London regarding wearing surgical masks. “People that would normally wear masks are now feeling that somehow they would become the target of abuse if they continued to do so,” he said.

In the U.S., the Anti-Defamation League has been tracking racist memes and online activity directed toward Asian communities in reaction to the outbreak. They’ve uncovered lurid cartoons depicting an Asian “Winnie the Flu,” mocking references to “bat soup,” and more violent imagery. “For months, there have been posts on notoriously extremist-friendly platforms like Telegram, 4chan and Gab linking the coronavirus to racist and antisemitic slurs and memes,” the A.D.L. wrote, in a recent blog post. “Users across these channels regularly share racist messages or caricatures of Chinese people, mocking their eating habits, accents, and hygiene.” Some posts, they went on, “appear to be cheering on the virus, hoping it will spread to predominately non-white countries, such as those in Africa.” Oren Segal, the vice-president of the A.D.L.’s Center on Extremism, noted that extremists “use every opportunity they can to create division.” He worried about the spread of racist content as more and more people are asked to stay at home and communicate online. “The fact that this sort of hatred exists in the same spaces where people are collecting their legitimate news—it is a concern,” he said.

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1 hour ago, Fernando said:

If this guy are saying that I would also be upset. 

There's no where in the new testament that says such things. 

The fact is that as I mentioned its a sin, but so also is hating your brother, saying false witness and such. And those so call Christians will also have to give account for what they say and do. 

Because the law of christ is love and any Christian who is not living in by that standard is lacking. 

Now love does not turn a blind eye but in warns. Warns you that you are going down a wrong path. 

But I apologize for those that cast hatred to you, I will not do it. 

No point getting upset with people like them who spout such stuff. Just pity them for beiing the way they are.

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