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22. Hakim Ziyech


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14 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I think we have a very talented player there - but with his attitude of 'not really bothered that much if it goes in or not' I tend to agree. 

The danger is he turns into another De Bruyne, Salah if another manager gets the best out of him

He turns 29 next year though, completely different scenario to the De Bruyne and Salah situations. 

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That is utter madness. He would cost £80m if he played for a PL club.

If you have the BT app tune into "Ziyech:Wizard of AMS". Gives you a great insight into the man aswell as the player. He goes over his personal feelings when Nouri collapsed (he was right next to him

All those years of seeing Willian hitting the first man at set pieces to seeing Ziyech picking out the target almost with ease. 😭

2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Doesnt mean a different manager could get a lot more out of him though

But he's at his peak age, he's supposed to be the finished article and yet his performances have been inconsistent. If he goes somewhere else and does well, it could be down to several factors why that could be the case, such as the nature of the league for example as opposed to the manager not getting the best out of him. And not to mention, Ziyech has also gotten more chances than De Bruyne and Salah ever did here. 

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3 minutes ago, Jase said:

But he's at his peak age, he's supposed to be the finished article and yet his performances have been inconsistent. If he goes somewhere else and does well, it could be down to several factors why that could be the case, such as the nature of the league for example as opposed to the manager not getting the best out of him. And not to mention, Ziyech has also gotten more chances than De Bruyne and Salah ever did here. 

Yes if he went somewhere else and did well it would be a right pisser. Thats the risk really. 

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Just now, Fulham Broadway said:

Yes if he went somewhere else and did well it would be a right pisser. Thats the risk really. 

Think we'll survive. 

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Just now, Fulham Broadway said:

Well we did when we shifted Malouda - he reminds me of the same attitude

Nothing to suggest that we won't go buy another attacker if we sell Ziyech. 

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1 minute ago, Jase said:

Nothing to suggest that we won't go buy another attacker if we sell Ziyech. 

Am sure we will - him scoring yesterday only encouraged Tuchel to say hes still in the last chance saloon effectively,  -which is encouraging.

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10 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Barcelona and Dortmund want him. I think he will do better in Dortmund. 

Club will literally laugh at any loan deal come January. 

I will reiterate what Matt Law has stated, any player that's played first team football this season will not be leaving in January. The depth we have will be vital for us if we want to end the season successfully. 

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Just watched long 23 minutes highlights. He played part in all 4 goals.

Last 5 games:

assist against Southampton 

disallowed goal, hit the post - overall unlucky game against Newcastle

only goal against Malmo

assist against LC

and today only one assist officially but he took corner for Chalobah goal, great little play before RLC/CHO goal...

CHO and Ziyech undroppable at the moment. Other 5 players fight for one spot.

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11 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Last 5 games:

assist against Southampton 

he took corner for Chalobah goal

They don't count. They came from corners. 

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1 hour ago, Jase said:

They don't count. They came from corners. 

I never said assists from corners don't count I used corners as argument when we spoke about Mount's creativity. Because obviously set piece assists don't show creativity. Just like they don't show Ziyech's creativity but you have good or bad set piece takers. 

I have been calling for set pieces taker change to happen way before it actually happened (after Arsenal game in round 36) and since then we scored 7 goals after corners (6 this season). With MM that percentage was tremendously lower. 

Also I don't think Ziyech is best taker. He should be 3rd after Chilwell and James. 

 

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First time since TT is here Hakim started 3 PL games in a row. With Frank also just once he had 4 starts in a row. Apart from that never more than two.

Tbh he was never given run of games.

His return in Chelsea is actually very solid considering this: 12g 8a in 3381 mins (minutes equal to 37,5 games).

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His best performance for us so far. Credit to him

And for me, it is his best goal from him

Able to position himself very nicely around the box, find enough space and time to make some calculated shoot, really calm, try to curved the ball and really depend so much with his technique on the ball.

And he just curved it brilliantly. Excellent goal

But apart from that, i noticed in this match, on numerous time he able to find himself enough space and time, to give some nice and meaningful forward pass and occasionally offer some actual threat.

While on the other matches, too often, he just very one dimensional, lack of ideas, isolated, and anytime when he tried to do anything with the ball, feels like desperate and hopeless attempt. Sad to see

In this match, the way he play and also how his teammates operates around him, actually encouraging. I hope that is something tuchel try to implement and build. Not just randomly happened, or because spurs just embarassingly poor

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