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4 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

Not seen him much. But 1000mins all season is hardly undisputed starter. I don’t think he has a future here anyway. Simply bought as a foolproof investment. 

I want to at least see him get a chance here.

He can pay LB as well (he is one of those rare left-footed CB's)

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On 08/02/2021 at 15:03, milka said:

Chelsea have been working on the deal for some time and if 'nothing goes wrong', Boateng will become the first signing of the Thomas Tuchel era.

After what happened with his ex girlfriend not sure Boateng will be mentally ready for footy any time soon. But even without that he is not that good.

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2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

After what happened with his ex girlfriend not sure Boateng will be mentally ready for footy any time soon. But even without that he is not that good.

his personal life has been a goddamn hot mess for ages

and yes, his ex just killed herself (on her son's birthday too!) because he dumped so, so that is a hell of a mind fuck

he has already left Qatar and flown back to Germany (he was due to start in the Bayern's FIFA WCC final tomorrow against Tigres)

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Thomas Tuchel confirms Chelsea "interest" in Erling Haaland and Dayot Upamecano

Chelsea have reportedly made Borussia Dortmund striker Haaland their priority target this summer, while they are one of a number of clubs monitoring RB Leipzig defender Upamecano

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/Chelsea-tuchel-interest-haaland-upamecano-23477169

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4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Thomas Tuchel confirms Chelsea "interest" in Erling Haaland and Dayot Upamecano

Chelsea have reportedly made Borussia Dortmund striker Haaland their priority target this summer, while they are one of a number of clubs monitoring RB Leipzig defender Upamecano

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/Chelsea-tuchel-interest-haaland-upamecano-23477169

Tuchel did not confirm anything. Christ! 

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6 minutes ago, Vesper said:

he tried to have it both ways

He was being diplomatic about it.

And besides, I doubt we'll have the money to buy both Upamecano and Haaland. It'll be one or the other. Plus, given more clubs are gonna be in for those 2 than say for Havertz and Werner last summer due to the pandemic, let's see if we can actually beat the competition this time, assuming we do go for either one of them. 

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29 minutes ago, Jason said:

He was being diplomatic about it.

And besides, I doubt we'll have the money to buy both Upamecano and Haaland. It'll be one or the other. Plus, given more clubs are gonna be in for those 2 than say for Havertz and Werner last summer due to the pandemic, let's see if we can actually beat the competition this time, assuming we do go for either one of them. 

I do not see us getting either one, nor Alaba

so there goes the only 3 players I have seen linked with Tuchel

I have no clue what is going on with so many of our players (plus the ones out on loan)

questions on the futures of  (big list warning, and I include some who may be sent on loan who are not on loan atm)

52 (52!!!!) players who we cannot make definitive statements on (some are very likely to be loaned or kept on main team or maybe reserves so can be called up, but not 100% known in terms of exact fate)

Kepa  
Willy Caballero    
Kurt Zouma   
Antonio Rüdiger    
Andreas Christensen    
Emerson   
Marcos Alonso    
Jorginho   
N'Golo Kanté    
Billy Gilmour   
Charly Musonda Jr.    
Callum Hudson-Odoi 
Olivier Giroud    
Dujon Sterling   
Jamal Blackman
Baba Rahman
Davide Zappacosta  
Ethan Ampadu
Fikayo Tomori 
Ian Maatsen 
Juan Castillo
Jake Clarke-Salter
Marc Guéhi   
Matt Miazga
Malang Sarr 
Trevoh Chalobah 
Conor Gallagher 
Danny Drinkwater 
Danilo Pantić
Jon Russell 
Kenedy
Lewis Baker
Luke McCormick
Marco van Ginkel
Ross Barkley
Ruben Loftus-Cheek
Tariq Uwakwe   
Tiémoué Bakayoko
Victor Moses 
Armando Broja 
Izzy Brown     
Ike Ugbo 
Michy Batshuayi 
Henry Lawrence   
Thierno Ballo   
Lewis Bate    
Tino Anjorin    
Levi Colwill      
Tino Livramento    
Xavier Mbuyamba   
George McEachran  
Jude Soonsup-Bell

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16 hours ago, Vesper said:

I do not see us getting either one, nor Alaba

so there goes the only 3 players I have seen linked with Tuchel

I have no clue what is going on with so many of our players (plus the ones out on loan)

questions on the futures of  (big list warning, and I include some who may be sent on loan who are not on loan atm)

52 (52!!!!) players who we cannot make definitive statements on (some are very likely to be loaned or kept on main team or maybe reserves so can be called up, but not 100% known in terms of exact fate)

Kepa  
Willy Caballero    
Kurt Zouma   
Antonio Rüdiger    
Andreas Christensen    
Emerson   
Marcos Alonso    
Jorginho   
N'Golo Kanté    
Billy Gilmour   
Charly Musonda Jr.    
Callum Hudson-Odoi 
Olivier Giroud    
Dujon Sterling   
Jamal Blackman
Baba Rahman
Davide Zappacosta  
Ethan Ampadu
Fikayo Tomori 
Ian Maatsen 
Juan Castillo
Jake Clarke-Salter
Marc Guéhi   
Matt Miazga
Malang Sarr 
Trevoh Chalobah 
Conor Gallagher 
Danny Drinkwater 
Danilo Pantić
Jon Russell 
Kenedy
Lewis Baker
Luke McCormick
Marco van Ginkel
Ross Barkley
Ruben Loftus-Cheek
Tariq Uwakwe   
Tiémoué Bakayoko
Victor Moses 
Armando Broja 
Izzy Brown     
Ike Ugbo 
Michy Batshuayi 
Henry Lawrence   
Thierno Ballo   
Lewis Bate    
Tino Anjorin    
Levi Colwill      
Tino Livramento    
Xavier Mbuyamba   
George McEachran  
Jude Soonsup-Bell

To be fair the majority of those players are either development players or players brought for development. The ones we should worry about are the following (owing to wages and fees paid): 

Batsh*t

Kepa

Baka

Drinky

Zappa

Baba

Emerson

Barkley

Moses

Zouma 

Rudi

RLC 

AC 

Tomori

Kenedy

Jorgi

Alonso

MVG

*I have excluded Willy and Giroud as they're out of out contract. 

This is still some list but I think they are broken into categories. 

Cat 1 - Players that shouldn't be sold 

Alonso - If we continue with 343 I do not see any need to sell when considering our other issues as we will have to buy a replacement and we have bigger fish to fry than sodding about with this. As I have always maintained, Alonso in a 3atb system is a very handy player.

2 x of AC, Tomori, Rudi, Zouma - As a collective they are poor, however as CB3-5 options they're fine. Pick your favourites on who stays. My personal choice would be AC (best one to cover the central CB slot behind Silva) plus either Rudi or Tomori. 

Cat 2 - Players that are non-enitities due to injury/personal problems (likely that we are still paying 100% even when loaned.)

Baba

MVG

Drinky (probably should be in the list below but I do feel he has mental health problems so I give him a slight stay of execution.)

With these players, just accept the loss. 

Cat 3 - Players who are vastly overpaid and will become Bogrades (or can only be loaned with minimal loan fees or percentage of wages covered) 

RLC 

Batsh*t

Baka 

Kepa 

Zappa

Again suck this up and remember these players and how they were brought/given contract extensions when praising Granny as these players cost a total of £160m+ and over £500k a week. 

Cat 4 - Players that can still be sold for a profit/no real/small loss: 

Moses (if Spartak get CL - if not move him into Cat 3.)

Kante (may belong in Cat 1)

Jorgi (maybe needs his own category due to how limited his market is.)

Barkley (needs to stay fit for the rest of the season, possibly biggest profit potential.)

Kenedy (expect a loss but I reckon we can get a sale.)

Emerson (wages save him. Could maybe belong in Cat 3.)

2 x of AC, Tomori, Rudi, Zouma

The problem we have really is the Cat 3 players (and the Cat 4 players who could/probably will join them) as they are all players who were poor buys from poor scouting or vastly overpaid before proving themselves. It is Cat 3 which will ultimately handicap us as the cost of these players is ludicrous and cannot be offset by Cat 4. 

As for the development players/players excluded they are the cost of running a very good development programme and either still have time to develop or will not be serious costs. 

 

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Have you folks seen the rumours that we are willing to swap Jorgy for Erikson? Who the fuck comes out with these bs stories.....no fucking chance we would be that stupid.

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On 10/02/2021 at 21:32, Jason said:

He was being diplomatic about it.

And besides, I doubt we'll have the money to buy both Upamecano and Haaland. It'll be one or the other. Plus, given more clubs are gonna be in for those 2 than say for Havertz and Werner last summer due to the pandemic, let's see if we can actually beat the competition this time, assuming we do go for either one of them. 

Will they? If anything the pandemic will be even harder felt this summer, the quiet January all round was ominous.

Although unfortunately we will be part of that real world now with no Hazard and Morata cash burning a hole.

43 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

So no Alaba no Upamecano. 

Who's left? Gimenez, Varane, Sule, Ginter... 

If back 3 is the way we're going medium term and RJ will be considered wingback by TT maybe Mukiele? (although i'd back him in a 4atb aswell).

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1 minute ago, Tomo said:

Will they? If anything the pandemic will be even harder felt this summer, the quiet January all round was ominous.

Although unfortunately we will be part of that real world now with no Hazard and Morata cash burning a hole.

A quiet January transfer window means nothing really. We might normally see the odd big transfer or two but no serious clubs will sell their assets right in the middle of the season. 

I think there will be much more movement this summer compared to last summer. Last summer, the pandemic just happened and I don't think anyone had a clear picture of the financial situation. Now that we are a year in and all that and have some sort of clarity of the situation, I suspect some clubs will be making moves this time around. 

Bayern already made a move on Upamecano. United will likely try to sign Sancho again and he might be available on a cheaper price this time, especially if Dortmund don't qualify for the Champions League. Then there's City who might try to sign Messi or Haaland for example. Real Madrid might also be tempted to make a move if Mbappe wants to go to Spain. 

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5 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

So no Alaba no Upamecano. 

Who's left? Gimenez, Varane, Sule, Ginter... 

You can also add Kounde, Konate, Milenkovic, Skriniar, Carlos, Botman, Caleta-Car, Torres, Carmo, White, Soyuncu, Badiashile, and Schuurs.

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So pathetic that players in Germany just go join Bayern every season. Swear every German club are just a feeder club to Bayern. 

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