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But ultimately we don't know how much his performances are due to the momentum and/or surprise package. Coming to Chelsea as a number 1 is a different ball game to his run in the Arsenal side where he could only have won.


Why could he have only won? Leno is a decent keeper. It is a statement by Martinez that many Arsenal fans believe that he is better than Leno.
What is so different between Arsenal and Chelsea? Same league, we even have better defenders than Arsenal. Martinez could have just been another Kepa, but he showed that he is a great GK.

I do not know any 195 cm GK with that body frame that has shown it in Pl. I think that he has the highest catch rate in PL since he came on

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2 hours ago, Strike said:

https://theathletic.com/2029141/2020/08/28/emi-emiliano-martinez-arsenal-transfer/

Emiliano Martinez for sale (maybe even below 10m). I think this could be a decent stop-gap option. He looked comfortable as Arsenal #1 and has good handling

Martinez is pretty much the best option for us. Cheap, knows the PL, will not be or want insane wages and if he doesn't work out we have a great GK2. 

Get this done. 

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Disagree, too risky to sign him based on a months form.

Yeah, but every GK bar the elite ones like Alisson and Oblak, are big risks as they do not know the league. As we have seen through losing TC and then moving to Kepa one of the most important things a GK has to do in the PL is dominate his 6 yard area and catch high balls. This is quite different to Ligue 1, Edevisie and La Liga. Serie A and the Bundesliga are the only ones that really compare. So, for me, when it comes to a GK, we either need to go big i.e. Oblak, or go small i.e. Martinez/Foster as all the mid-priced GK's run into serious risks. Sure, some of them would be fine but one or two would likely not adapt. My personal fav is the Lille GK, but if it is £30-£40m for him or £8-£10m for Martinez or Foster on a free I am going for one of the PL based GK's as we cannot afford even another mid-priced mistake. Martinez if he was had for £10m, carries no disaster risk as his fee and wages would make him a slightly expensive GK2 if he isn't cut out for a No.1 spot. 

A another thing to consider is that we are lumbered with Kepa if he has to stay the GK budget is likely to be tight. 

1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

He has made many world class saves in PL against Pool and Spurs for instance.

He is 195 cm tall, has a big frame due tue his muscles and insane jumping abilities. He also is very dominant in the air and he improved his technical abilities.

10 million is nothing. Onana has weaknesses, but costs 30 million, Mendy is not perfect either.

 

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Yeah, lets be honest here. Most people on here have probably seen more of Martinez than they have of any of the French based GK's. Onana may they have seen more of owing to CL. 

Either way, I am with you on this. Everything Martinez showed since taking over at Le Arse from Leno showed excellent to very good levels of GK work. Sure, he isn't perfect but if he really is £10m he has to be the no brainer option. 

(Unless that is one of the French based GK's are absolutely 100% world class and will be able to handle the PL. I do not know the answer to this as all I have seen are youtube clips, stats and a couple of Lille games which are nowhere near enough to make a definitive conclusion.) Onana I am not really sold on owing to his parrying into danger too often. 

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Yeah, lets be honest here. Most people on here have probably seen more of Martinez than they have of any of the French based GK's. Onana may they have seen more of owing to CL. 
Either way, I am with you on this. Everything Martinez showed since taking over at Le Arse from Leno showed excellent to very good levels of GK work. Sure, he isn't perfect but if he really is £10m he has to be the no brainer option. 
(Unless that is one of the French based GK's are absolutely 100% world class and will be able to handle the PL. I do not know the answer to this as all I have seen are youtube clips, stats and a couple of Lille games which are nowhere near enough to make a definitive conclusion.) Onana I am not really sold on owing to his parrying into danger too often. 
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4 minutes ago, Ryan Fong said:

Arsenal will never sell him to us for 10m, be realistic and think about it guys.

Well it probably depends on contract situations and gentlemen agreements. Cech here could maybe pull us a few favours. He is still highly thought of at Le Arse. 

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9 minutes ago, Ryan Fong said:

Arsenal will never sell him to us for 10m, be realistic and think about it guys.

He has only 2 years left on his contract, which makes him worth around 20 million. According to The Athletic, he has some sort of agreement with Arsenal to let him go and they may be forced to let him go on the cheap. 

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He has only 2 years left on his contract, which makes him worth around 20 million. According to The Athletic, he has some sort of agreement with Arsenal to let him go and they may be forced to let him go on the cheap. 

Well 20m maybe, 10m is practically a bag of nuts in today’s market and I just don’t believe they will sell to major direct rival at such low fee.
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1 minute ago, Ryan Fong said:


I seriously doubt it. Cech & Luiz were different situations, we wanted to sell at the first place.

Is it different? Both players wanted to leave and we were "forced" to sell them, which is the same case here with Martinez. 

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Well it probably depends on contract situations and gentlemen agreements. Cech here could maybe pull us a few favours. He is still highly thought of at Le Arse. 

I don’t doubt our pull but 10m? highly unlikely. Imagine the outburst at AFTV lol, those thugs will rip their board a new one.
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Is it different? Both players wanted to leave and we were "forced" to sell them, which is the same case here with Martinez. 

Both were unwanted anymore weren’t they? Maybe less of Cech’s case but he was declining and unlikely to get the starting place back from the snake.

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Both were unwanted anymore weren’t they? Maybe less of Cech’s case but he was declining and unlikely to get the starting place from the snake.

Think we were happy to keep both but both wanted to leave. Cech felt he could still play week in week out while Luiz, IIRC, was told his starting place wasn't guaranteed anymore and he decided to pack it in.

Mind you, when Luiz left last summer, he had 2 years left on his contract and was on bigger wages than Martinez is right now and yet, we sold him for only 8 million because he wanted to leave.

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If we dont go in for him then another PL club will, he wants first team action and I thought he was superb while Leno was out. Even for 20M its high reward low risk imo. We should be all over it.

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2 hours ago, killer1257 said:

On Arsenal mania, they want all Martinez as a no. 1 because of his size. They think that Leno may be a little bit of a better shot stopper, but Martinez dominance in the box is way better than Leno's.
I rarely read that Leno is better than Martinez

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And he is a massive Arse fan and also caught the ball outside of the penalty area, ref did nothing. 

I dont like the dude very much ok?😄

He is good keeper, but I wonder why didnt he play for Getafe when he went on loan there for example...

 

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Think we were happy to keep both but both wanted to leave. Cech felt he could still play week in week out while Luiz, IIRC, was told his starting place wasn't guaranteed anymore and he decided to pack it in.

Mind you, when Luiz left last summer, he had 2 years left on his contract and was on bigger wages than Martinez is right now and yet, we sold him for only 8 million because he wanted to leave.

Never mind mate, I’m not disliking this move, if we can actually sign him for less than 20m hell yeah I’m all for it. I’m just not optimistic that we can pull it off for speculated 10m ish.

 

P.s. One more thing, staying at London was one of Cech and Luiz’s major desires when it comes to transfer, I’m not sure it’s the same for Martinez. Arsenal can easily offload him abroad for the same price, logically speaking.

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About the GK conundrum, I have watched a few game clips of Mike Maignan and from the little i have seen there plus 3 live matche sof him including the league game vs PSG he looks like the most complete of our 3 main options (him, Mendy, Onana). Maignan does not have as eyecatching characteristics as Mendy with his wingspan and Onana with his power and reflexes but he handles himself quite well. He does not parry the ball back in the danger area everytime and can actually catch the balls he should catch unlike the other two. He works mostly with his speed and anticipation a bit like a young buffon in terms of style albeit not with the same spectacular reflexes. He is very good in 1 on 1s bc of his positioning and pace. I have actually never seen a goalkeeper this quick on his feet. He literally has the pace of a winger. he is not super big but fairly athletic. he actually makes sprints to get the ball past onrushing attackers which looks crazy and i have never before seen a goalkeeper do this to great effect while being in control of the situation except maybe neuer. Other than that he is a fairly conventional, commanding and proactive gk who is alright on the ball. I think he is miles above even an in-form Kepa and also a bit younger.

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