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17 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's dumb when you think Lampard has beaten Klopp, Guardiola and Mourinho this season but has failed to get anything against Solskjaer. 

The points weve dropped against smaller teams has been a disappointment as well. Top 4 would of been 100% sealed by now if we hadn’t dropped as many points.

Overall (before even mentioning tonights result), there is still plenty to do.

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Just now, OneMoSalah said:

The points weve dropped against smaller teams has been a disappointment as well. Top 4 would of been 100% sealed by now if we hadn’t dropped as many points.

Overall (before even mentioning tonights result), there is still plenty to do.

Point is, Lampard has gotten results against the best/better managers but hasn't done it against someone like Solskjaer. 

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Just now, Jason said:

Point is, Lampard has gotten results against the best/better managers but hasn't done it against someone like Solskjaer. 

True. I think United have just managed phases of the games against us better as well as having been more clinical. With regards to teams being clinical, it has been a bit of a recurring theme this season too that we haven't scored when our play has warranted it, ie that first half v United we were on top and didnt take advantage then United ended up winning the game quite comfortably in score. The Norwich and Sheffield United games as well come to mind which ties in with the dropped points v smaller teams. 

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7 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

True. I think United have just managed phases of the games against us better as well as having been more clinical. With regards to teams being clinical, it has been a bit of a recurring theme this season too that we haven't scored when our play has warranted it, ie that first half v United we were on top and didnt take advantage then United ended up winning the game quite comfortably in score. The Norwich and Sheffield United games as well come to mind which ties in with the dropped points v smaller teams. 

For me, we need to do what Solskjaer has been doing against us. Be more pragmatic and somewhat play on the break. Pretty much in all the 3 games against them this season, we looked clueless in breaking them down and then got suckered punch with silly goals at the other end. They did what we used to do to Wenger's Arsenal. 

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7 minutes ago, Mana said:

Well IMO beating Klopp in the league cup...doesn’t really count, especially when we didn’t go on to win it.

You mean the FA Cup...? Even if we don't go on to win it, Lampard still got the better off Klopp and the same thing should have happened in the Super Cup as well. 

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41 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's dumb when you think Lampard has beaten Klopp, Guardiola and Mourinho this season but has failed to get anything against Solskjaer. 

Just some sort of weird bogey thing. Jose had it against O Neil, Conte against Wenger, Fergie against our pre Roman sides.

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4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Just some sort of weird bogey thing. Jose had it against O Neil, Conte against Wenger, Fergie against our pre Roman sides.

I guess. But the dumb thing is we haven't beaten Solskjaer's United once in 5 games and the last time we even beat them was in the FA Cup final, which feels like ages ago now. 

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6 minutes ago, Jason said:

I guess. But the dumb thing is we haven't beaten Solskjaer's United once in 5 games and the last time we even beat them was in the FA Cup final, which feels like ages ago now. 

Hopefully we break the curse the way we did with the one Liverpool under Kenny had on us (the cup final).

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4 hours ago, Jason said:

It's dumb when you think Lampard has beaten Klopp, Guardiola and Mourinho this season but has failed to get anything against Solskjaer. 

United is a very difficult team to play though. Good defense, super fast attacker. Plus for all the bs that United way is an attacking way, solkjaer big game plan is even more defensive than Mou. 

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On 6/17/2020 at 3:21 AM, Tomo said:

Just worked out that if City beat Arsenal and Burnley and Liverpool only win win 1 of their next 2 we will hand Liverpool the title ourselves if we beat City after that :o

you nailed it mate :D 

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Starting to see some maturity and real signs of development in both Lampard's management and the players over the last few games pre and post lockdown.

Whilst I would have preferred the season to be much smoother, I do feel everybody will benefit in the longer run for the difficult moments and grind experienced this season.

The wins against Liverpool and Everton (and the comprehensive manner in which we won them) were a massive boost of confidence to return back to. The Villa game was very positive to come from behind because it hasn't happened nearly often enough this season, and then last night we could have easily been blown away when they equalised but the team dug in and re-took the momentum in the last 25 of the second half and with the chances created I feel fully deserved the win.

It's still very much a work in progress but we seem to have hit a patch of form just at the right time and I'm pleased to see the team starting to show a bit more fight and personality in our performances.

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