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I can't actually believe how well coached we are. Puts it in further perspective when you see the garbage United and Arsenal are spewing. I love the fact Frank isn't so stubborn to try and do it

Very confused, can only assume the ones being somewhat negative did not watch the game? Aside from Dave and Zouma, I thought we played really well against the European Champions. I was shocked at time

Our pressing game was superb, and made all the difference today! 4-3-3 with Mount and Havertz to harass opponents and Kante to sweep up behind...that's the way to go. And we have two bombing

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Everyone going crazy way too soon IMO. I'm reserving judgement on Lampard until he has all his players up and running. No pre-season and we are without Pulisic!

We haven't even seen Ziyech, Silva and Chilwell in full swing either. Havertz and Werner have looked promising, both have made assists (Werner winning penalties) and scored a goal (Havertz with three!)

When we have Havertz and Chilwell fully fit, with Werner running through the middle and Ziyech making dangerous passes to Pulisic we will be feared. If Lampard can't make it work with them, then I will be a little worried. We still have players starting that still have some way to go, i.e. CHO, and Abraham. Mount is very good but overworked.

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2 hours ago, Ledgi said:

His obsession with wanting Mount to be the next Frank Lampard will be his biggest downfall.

I'm not even talking about the penalty. 

The kid is being runned to the ground where there's absolutely no need to play every 90 minutes in this hectic schedule.

Everybody has their favorites but the boy is far away from a world-class footballer to be given this treatment.

Not sure why he's so obsessed with Mount playing every minute this season. Today's game he was nowhere to be found. That's why our play through the center of the park was almost non existent.

Even last season, despite a great start, Mount was dropped to the bench for a significant amount of games.

This season, season he hasn't had break.

I wonder now if Frank is desperately trying to give him a chance to secure his place given the new arrivals.

I was hoping he would have been subbed in the second half for someone else (Barkley/Havertz) because of his ineffectiveness. Instead we had Giroud come off for Tammy.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Vybz Kartel said:

Sarri had structure, his football might not have been everyone's cup of tea but at least everyone could see what he was trying to achieve not so much with Lampard.

Maybe when Sarri was in Napoli, but his football was just boring to watch at Chelsea, almost as bad as Conte's second season football.

The only thing I give Sarri credit for is with teaching the defense to pass the ball effectively out of high press situations.

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44 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

This is big issue.

I am not even going to comment about Mount performance.

But before this game he was the only one playing every minute in 4 games.

Now again 90mins. And it was lets not forget Cup game.

Lets say Havertz is 1st choice AM, Mount 2nd and Ross 3rd.

So in the Cup game Frank decides to completely rest his 1st choice and not use at all Barkley who was very good in previous games he played.

But he plays Mason again, player who played every minute? What is the logic here? Sorry but every hate Mount gets is on Lampard.

Jose brings from the bench Kane but Frank did not do the same with Kai? Why? And Kane had a game like 48 hours before and will have another one in 48h again.

Horrible game management from Frank again.

 

Same

While I see the value Mount brings to the team in games, I don't know why he's seemingly being run into the ground playing every minute like he was Hazard for Chelsea.

Almost invisible today.

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6 hours ago, DDA said:

I'm not jumping on the Lampard out wagon yet but if we replace him with anyone it should be the Leipzig manager. He would be the best choice.

There's a several of very good managers if Roman sacked Lampard: Ten Hag, Rose, Nagelsmann, Gasperini, Tuchel, Gallardo, Pochettino, Inzaghi, and Flick. 

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5 hours ago, Henrique said:

Really difficult to judge him at the moment.

There was no pre-season, its a unusual situation, and most of new signings are not ready yet, and our best player is out with an injury. Today it was an easy victory if not for Mason Mount, and its even difficult to criticize Lampard for sticking with Mount here, because he was probably the motm against WB.

To other side, in the final minutes the team was just exchanging passes like in a training session. Really weird, just cross the ball or try a long shoot. 

Right now he must stop Mason Mount thing. Mount is the same old story. He has 5 mediocre games in a row, then he will score a goal and people will say he is quality and has a bright future. That stupid and infuriating pass just minutes before Spurs equalized sums up his lack of quality and weak mentality.

I don't believe it. Henrique coming in clutch with the facts. 

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5 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Maybe when Sarri was in Napoli, but his football was just boring to watch at Chelsea, almost as bad as Conte's second season football.

The only thing I give Sarri credit for is with teaching the defense to pass the ball effectively out of high press situations.

Their boring football is one thing but at least one could see what they were trying to do, how they wanted us to play.

Can the same be said about Lampard? We don't know what we're gonna get with Lampard in every match and it's been a long, long time since we had any sort of fluidity in our attack and since we put in a complete team performance. 

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2 minutes ago, DDA said:

I don't believe it. Henrique coming in clutch with the facts. 

He is weird. 

Whenever people are criticizing the manager, for example, he will suddenly come in and back the manager. When people don't criticize the manager, he will be the one to criticize the manager. 

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

He is weird. 

Whenever people are criticizing the manager, for example, he will suddenly come in and back the manager. When people don't criticize the manager, he will be the one to criticize the manager. 

He baffles even the most intellectual of minds. 

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45 minutes ago, Jason said:

Their boring football is one thing but at least one could see what they were trying to do, how they wanted us to play.

Can the same be said about Lampard? We don't know what we're gonna get with Lampard in every match and it's been a long, long time since we had any sort of fluidity in our attack and since we put in a complete team performance. 

Weren't we regularly clashing in the Sarri season because i could see the projected end product and you couldn't?

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Just now, Tomo said:

Weren't we regularly clashing in the Sarri season because i could see the projected end product and you couldn't?

Did we? Was it about that? 

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Just now, Jason said:

Did we? Was it about that? 

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I can't be bothered to go back and source particular quotes but fairly certain the gist of it was I was encouraged by how comfortable we were playing out of the back and in possession (despite the eye pleasing side of things not living up to the hype) and thought it could be really built on on time and let's just say you challenged me on it quite a bit.

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1 minute ago, Tomo said:

I can't be bothered to go back and source particular quotes but fairly certain the gist of it was I was encouraged by how comfortable we were playing out of the back and in possession (despite the eye pleasing side of things not living up to the hype) and thought it could be really built on on time and let's just say you challenged me on it quite a bit.

Hmmm...

In any case, I did say that their football may be boring and may have frustrated us at one point or another but at least one could see a plan there. But now...?

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2 hours ago, Jason said:

Their boring football is one thing but at least one could see what they were trying to do, how they wanted us to play.

Can the same be said about Lampard? We don't know what we're gonna get with Lampard in every match and it's been a long, long time since we had any sort of fluidity in our attack and since we put in a complete team performance. 

The thought crossed my mind yesterday.. Imagine if Sarri had this team for his football when he was here :blink: Would fit his game perfectly with Ziyech, Pulisic, Havertz, Werner etc.

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The thought crossed my mind yesterday.. Imagine if Sarri had this team for his football when he was here :blink: Would fit his game perfectly with Ziyech, Pulisic, Havertz, Werner etc.


Werner and Pulisic are clearly mo Sarri Ball players. Hazard was also not a Sarri ball player

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I think it's far too early to be judging Lampard at this stage. 

I think there has to be an acceptance that Lampard has an end plan for this squad. He's brought players in who have clearly been agreed between him and the board who all appear to be on the same wavelength at present, and we've got some real top quality players into the club, some of which appear to have been sold the project by Lampard.

Trying to integrate these new players with no pre season (and what we did have of one was completely disrupted by mass isolations and international football) and a number of players coming back in different phases due to different levels of fitness, injuries, etc was going to be a huge struggle. I don't think it's a coincidence that Wolves and United have both looked really poor since coming back, and City also look undercooked. I think all are suffering for the extensions to their seasons at present.

However I mentioned it last night, following the international break (hopefully coming out unscathed), Lampard has to start focusing on rotating far less, and give the team as much opportunity to develop and build chemistry together as possible. The back line in particular needs a run of games together to build some consistency. If Lampard thinks Silva and Christensen are the first choice pairing then he needs to stick with them and give them chance to develop an understanding together. 

There seems to be over thinking at times by Lampard and at times he just needs to keep things simple. Our run early in the season last year had far less rotation, United's run in the second half of the season was built on very little rotating and Liverpool have shown in the last couple of years the consistency that has been built in this way also.

I think if the same problems are apparent in a couple of months time, then questions do need to start being asked about whether he is the right man for the job in the long term. For now though I think time and patience is required.

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