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Werner works best in a 442 next to a target man. He can play lone striker in almost any system but is less effective there cos his passing is quite average and he does not really help the build up play. He is better receiving the ball i to his foot deeper on the left or playing off the shoulder. 
Havertz is still young enough to learn pretty much any offensive or midfield position to perfection. But he has been used primarily and to great effect as the right offensive midfielder in a 4231 . He has enough pace to play wing but would be a bit wasted out wide cos he is an able playmaker. Also not the most explosive. He might also work as the most offensive cm in a 433. less likely but possible options for him include false nine or classic no 10 in a 4231 or 343
Lampard prolly had Position and formation in mind when he pitched for Werner and Havertz. So he probably knows where to put them. 
vs Brighton Puli is out so I could imagine
 
                   New GK
Azpi        Rudi.       Zouma.     Chilwell
                         Kante
             Mount.           Havertz
Ziyech.             Giroud.           Werner
 
but I could see Kovacic starting in midfield and  Havertz play false 8 if we have that in our locker as well. 


Havertz has also started as a striker for Leverkusen a couple of times and he is 6'2 in height. Can't he play side by side with Werner up top?

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I can't actually believe how well coached we are. Puts it in further perspective when you see the garbage United and Arsenal are spewing. I love the fact Frank isn't so stubborn to try and do it

Very confused, can only assume the ones being somewhat negative did not watch the game? Aside from Dave and Zouma, I thought we played really well against the European Champions. I was shocked at time

Our pressing game was superb, and made all the difference today! 4-3-3 with Mount and Havertz to harass opponents and Kante to sweep up behind...that's the way to go. And we have two bombing

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Thanks mate.

So we still need a striker as well?

Abraham you don't rate hime in your team, and atm I don't rate him at all so we've only got Olly.

And as regards CB what about the forgotten man Ethan Ampadu, I rate him quite highly and he wants to come back to fight for a place.

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16 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said:

Thanks mate.

So we still need a striker as well?

Abraham you don't rate hime in your team, and atm I don't rate him at all so we've only got Olly.

And as regards CB what about the forgotten man Ethan Ampadu, I rate him quite highly and he wants to come back to fight for a place.

@kellzfresh Our strength lies in midfield so I don’t think will deviate from one striker systems. I can’t see Ziyech or Pulisic working in a 442
when Pulisic returns from injury, I think Giroud will be dropped to the bench and Werner moved to the middle. 
what i consider our best lineup ina traditional 4231  would be


           Kante   Kovacic 

ziyech           Havertz       Pulisic

                      Werner 

 

bit bc Lamps loves Mount so much I doubt we will see it. 

 

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[mention=7273]kellzfresh[/mention] Our strength lies in midfield so I don’t think will deviate from one striker systems. I can’t see Ziyech or Pulisic working in a 442
when Pulisic returns from injury, I think Giroud will be dropped to the bench and Werner moved to the middle. 
what i consider our best lineup ina traditional 4231  would be

           Kante   Kovacic 
ziyech           Havertz       Pulisic
                      Werner 
 
bit bc Lamps loves Mount so much I doubt we will see it. 
 
I expect the same line. I only see Kovacic on the bench and Mount being a starter instead of him

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On 19/08/2020 at 3:45 PM, Atomiswave said:

 

So this is basically All or Nothing: Chelsea, with FL as the main role of the series. Good opening episode.

2 hours ago, DDA said:

Look at how much this means to him. He is Chelsea through and through. I'll back him into the Championship if thats where he takes us. I don't give a fuck anymore. He's the main man. This video was class.

I can see your emotions were running high and I hope you weren’t serious about that.

No man is bigger than the club. Even FL.

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A lovely tribute to the man, this series. And makes you wonder. Quite clearly everyone at the club would love this partnership to continue for  years, this series proves it. I do not remember anything similar regarding a new coach, not even Mourinho before his second stint. And it would be just pretty awkward if he does not deliver and gets the boot next summer, a year after the series...

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4 hours ago, DDA said:

Look at how much this means to him. He is Chelsea through and through. I'll back him into the Championship if thats where he takes us. I don't give a fuck anymore. He's the main man. This video was class.

Did you see his face when we lost to udt 4-0? It was like his super yacht was being sunked infront of him......through and through for sure. Ep2 has been upped and eps3 comes today.

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2 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Did you see his face when we lost to udt 4-0? It was like his super yacht was being sunked infront of him......through and through for sure. Ep2 has been upped and eps3 comes today.

they are all out now as I have watched them.

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4 hours ago, Mana said:

So this is basically All or Nothing: Chelsea, with FL as the main role of the series. Good opening episode.

I can see your emotions were running high and I hope you weren’t serious about that.

No man is bigger than the club. Even FL.

It's the piano. . It get's me.

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2 hours ago, DDA said:

It's the piano. . It get's me.

It's amazing. I am watching it on my 85'' qled and the mere presence and intensity Lampard has is giving me shivers.

 

Still a painful reminder we could have had 2 trophies (albeit 2 mediocre ones but still trophies) and ended with 0 which was only down to our lack of clinicalness and tactical naivety.

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I don't know if he's an attacking coach or defensive but this could be significant 
Scenes when I attribute all potential defensive improvements to this fella instead of frank.

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