closed Bohemians 1-1 Chelsea

[Hutcho 8,443]

Far too many players are out of their depth. Piazon couldn't even get into a relegated Serie A side weeks ago and here he is in the squad.
 
Lamps needs to be cut-throat from the get go by getting rid of players that have no chance. Club need to stop holding onto duds in the hope of making the odd dime.
 
 

 Baker, Brown & Piazon are no longer kids.
 
 
 

True, and I doubt any make the squad so it makes no difference. Bit unfair on brown given his injury problems as well but that's beside the point.

Worst case we wasted half a preseason game playing players who won't make the squad, so no big deal. Plus alot the first team and fringe players played in the summer so weren't gonna play tonight anyway.

The likes of Mount tomori Abraham etc. The 'youngsters' we really wanna see at this stage

[Hutcho 8,443]

We've already replaced them, Jorginho and Kovacic took their places in the squad.

Long season, injuries happen (I.e RLC). And most of the first team weren't gonna play this early. What's the harm in giving them a half?

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Tomo 21,751]

17 minutes ago, Hutcho said:

56 minutes ago, Tomo said:

We've already replaced them, Jorginho and Kovacic took their places in the squad.

Long season, injuries happen (I.e RLC). And most of the first team weren't gonna play this early. What's the harm in giving them a half?

We have three main players fighting for the two pivot/deepest midfield positions with Ampadu as an emergency 4th, there's just simply no space for them. As soon as Jorginho, Kova and Kante start playing they will likely be sent back.

[Hutcho 8,443]

We have three main players fighting for the two pivot/deepest midfield positions with Ampadu as an emergency 4th, there's just simply no space for them. As soon as Jorginho, Kova and Kante start playing they will likely be sent back.

I agree, I'm just saying our squad is our squad so no harm in playing them in the early pre season matches and sending them out if we decide to.

Practically all of the players playing today (bar the first teamers) won't make the squad.

If this was the final game of preseason and they've played shit and we're still trotting them out then the people moaning about them playing would have a point but not on game 1.

[Superblue 6,372]

My thoughts on the game, very much as expected. Both halves we started well only to fade very badly in each. This team are midway through their season and that was clear to see so it would have acted as a very good workout tonight.

A couple of things I did like however:

1. Flexibility of formation. I think the 4-2-3-1 is best suited to our players but I'm glad Lampard is willing to try and experiment and we are at least already well accustomed to playing 4-3-3.

2. I like how we tried to play the ball much quicker through the lines. At times it was forced but the execution will improve and should be a welcome tweak to last years style.

3. Bats played well, not just his goal which he finished well as expected. He worked very hard and some of his play on the ball also seemed much improved.

 

[Superblue 6,372]

I dont understand people's frustrations with the squad tonight. This was almost a "pre" pre season camp and Lamps was right to give chances to the likes of Piazon and Baker in the same way as Bakayoko and Drinkwater. Are they likely to make the grade? No, but that's Lamps call. I can only compare this to Conte giving Moses a chance and the rest was history. If he hadn't, would he have had a good enough right wing back within the squad to change to a back 3 and then perhaps the title wouldn't have been won. 

We had 12 or 13 players join up a day or two ago, all of which are either established or much more on the fringes of the squad and ready than most of these players tonight. Add to this Willian, Pulisic, CHO, RLC, Rudiger and James all not there and we're talking almost an entire squad.

Lamps just needs a bit of time to run the rule over everything at his disposal but I would expect when the season starts only a few that played tonight will be in the squad.

[communicate 2,703]

It is funny reading this forum. I kept hearing we should play youth player. One pre season game and it is change. Only ampadu is good enough. Ampadu was part of the 1st team last year so he is not exactly youth player

 

 

[LAM09 7,056]

 

True, and I doubt any make the squad so it makes no difference. Bit unfair on brown given his injury problems as well but that's beside the point.

 

Worst case we wasted half a preseason game playing players who won't make the squad, so no big deal. Plus alot the first team and fringe players played in the summer so weren't gonna play tonight anyway.

 

The likes of Mount tomori Abraham etc. The 'youngsters' we really wanna see at this stage

 

They will play on Saturday as well.

 

I'd rather give players with promise extended game time over players that have no future.

 

[Yeboii 1,844]

3 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Piazon couldn't even get into a relegated Serie A side weeks ago and here he is in the squad.

Surprised he is in the squad to be honest as his contract was supposed to be up 1. of July 

[LAM09 7,056]

Surprised he is in the squad to be honest as his contract was supposed to be up 1. of July 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lucas-piazon/profil/spieler/176485

Contracted till 30/6/20

[killer1257 3,282]

8 hours ago, communicate said:

It is funny reading this forum. I kept hearing we should play youth player. One pre season game and it is change. Only ampadu is good enough. Ampadu was part of the 1st team last year so he is not exactly youth player

 

 

You know that our best youth players are all injured or did not play the game,right? Abraham, James, CHO, Mount, Tomori and RLC

Only promising players that played yesterday were Ampadu and Billy.

[Fulham Broadway 17,319]

Lampard out

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

In some respects this is what's wrong with modern football fans critiquing pre season kick abouts. Even when Chelsea were shit I used to go to some friendlies mainly to visit grounds I'd never been before the match was always totally irrelevant it was then it is now.

[communicate 2,703]

2 hours ago, killer1257 said:

You know that our best youth players are all injured or did not play the game,right? Abraham, James, CHO, Mount, Tomori and RLC

Only promising players that played yesterday were Ampadu and Billy.

Fair enough.

I don't count CHO, ruben and ampadu as youth though. They were part of first team last season. 

Need to watch how mount, Tomori and James play. 

I watched Tammy two years ago with Swansea. He need a lot of work

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Lampard out

[Atomiswave 6,117]

14 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

@Atomiswave

Didn't really look like a team playing for the manager who demands respect. 

Hold your horses there partner....you wouldnt judge sarii this way now would you? Pre.season is nothing more than getting up to speed and figuring out whom can cut it and eventhough it was a friendly, plenty of those players wont be in the squad, enjoy the ride, its sure to be filled with all kinds of shit.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

First game didnt expect much more.

Ampadu really caught my eye but still at times in first half he played too safe with his passing.

Kenedy isnt a LB and has no place here in the long term in my eyes.

Batshuayi did good but still have doubts about him, although times the final pass to him was shit ornthey went another way.

Billy Gilmour looked promising when he got on but think this seasons too soon.

Dujon Sterling was disappointing. 

Hopefully with the addition of more senior players who played regularly together and more fitness training we will be a lot better. Im sure we will. 4231 is still for me not a better fit than 433.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Nothing but a fitness booster with lads stretching their legs and Lampard looking into player detail.

Couldn't be even classed as a friendly, more of a warm up.

[communicate 2,703]

34 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

First game didnt expect much more.

Ampadu really caught my eye but still at times in first half he played too safe with his passing.

 

I think it is more important to know what is his best position. As much as I like versatile player, it is important for him to have a settled position.